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Old 09-08-2014, 12:04 PM   #36
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Damnit guys! I wish I could do it myself, I'm scared to mess something up. The installation on everything I bought is costing me more than the parts themselves, LOL.
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Damnit guys! I wish I could do it myself, I'm scared to mess something up. The installation on everything I bought is costing me more than the parts themselves, LOL.
Do it yourself. It's really not that hard and a great learning experience. I just did lowering springs myself with an adj. panhard bar and am doing shorty headers on my own with a friend as soon as he gets a day off work.
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Do it yourself. It's really not that hard and a great learning experience. I just did lowering springs myself with an adj. panhard bar and am doing shorty headers on my own with a friend as soon as he gets a day off work.
You may change your tune. Shorty's are harder than springs. Best of luck.
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You may change your tune. Shorty's are harder than springs. Best of luck.
Oh trust me I'm expecting a 6 hour install at the minimum with lots of frustration and cursing. And then I will thank God that I didn't get LT's lol.
I just really don't wanna pay $300 + for the install, and I like to do all my work myself besides cutting and welding and advanced body work and paint if I can.
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If you can get the car far enough off the ground, BBK LT's are an easier install than the shorties.
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Oh trust me I'm expecting a 6 hour install at the minimum with lots of frustration and cursing. And then I will thank God that I didn't get LT's lol.
I just really don't wanna pay $300 + for the install, and I like to do all my work myself besides cutting and welding and advanced body work and paint if I can.

Im with you. Install prices are nuts now a days. These things really arent that hard, look up videos on Youtube. Ive watched videos a 100 times over and over until I knew what they were doing. What if you break something?? Thats how you learn. Trust me Ive broken a bunch of stuff in the past, but when you do it again you'll know what to look out for. Take the money youd spend on a install and buy a jack, stands and a good set of hand tools and go for it!!
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Just make sure you have 5mm socket when those studs come out and make sure to bolt the passenger side bottom left before you tighten anything up on that side if not it will be a pain.
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I can honestly buy an entirely new set of ceramic headers for the price of the install . $300 would be the minimum I would have to pay . I would rather learn and be able to say I did the install myself than pay. Knowledge is invaluable. If it was $100 for the install trust me I would get it done LOL.

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I can honestly buy an entirely new set of ceramic headers for the price of the install . $300 would be the minimum I would have to pay . I would rather learn and be able to say I did the install myself than pay. Knowledge is invaluable. If it was $100 for the install trust me I would get it done LOL.

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You're really good with write ups, you could consider doing one for the BBK shorties the way Bigshow14 did for the Macs.

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Do it yourself. It's really not that hard and a great learning experience. I just did lowering springs myself with an adj. panhard bar and am doing shorty headers on my own with a friend as soon as he gets a day off work.
What are you going to use to lift the car?

I'm scared of going underneath, Honestly. If I were to do it myself, I'd buy some ramps and a pair of jack stands as backup, But I'd still be a bit scared.
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I will do my best to do a write up ! I'm gonna use big shows for the install along with one I found online .

I'm going to use a heavy duty Jack and Jack stands to lift it.
I would never go under a car that is only jacked up . 2 stands and the Jack is what I usually go with , especially if it is the front end. If it's the rear I will just use Jack stands since the Jack gets in the way . That's for stuff such as axleback installs. You should be fine with the Jack stands. Another thing you can do is take your front wheels off and lay them down right under the sides of your car. You will be fine just dont do something ridiculous like donkey kick the Jack stands while you're under it lol

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I will do my best to do a write up ! I'm gonna use big shows for the install along with one I found online .

I'm going to use a heavy duty Jack and Jack stands to lift it.
I would never go under a car that is only jacked up . 2 stands and the Jack is what I usually go with , especially if it is the front end. If it's the rear I will just use Jack stands since the Jack gets in the way . That's for stuff such as axleback installs. You should be fine with the Jack stands. Another thing you can do is take your front wheels off and lay them down right under the sides of your car. You will be fine just dont do something ridiculous like donkey kick the Jack stands while you're under it lol

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What are you going to use to lift the car?

I'm scared of going underneath, Honestly. If I were to do it myself, I'd buy some ramps and a pair of jack stands as backup, But I'd still be a bit scared.

Jack the front up by the reinforced part on the K-member, it will be pretty obvious that's where the jack should go, then place 2 jack stands on the pinch welds in the front. The rear can be lifted by the diff, just be sure not to put any pressure on the cover, and then place two jack stands on the pinch welds in the rear. Very straight forward, takes 5 minutes to lift the whole car.
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I can honestly buy an entirely new set of ceramic headers for the price of the install . $300 would be the minimum I would have to pay . I would rather learn and be able to say I did the install myself than pay. Knowledge is invaluable. If it was $100 for the install trust me I would get it done LOL.

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I regret not having the time and paying for it. Had long tubes and didn't have a way to get the car off the ground high enough.

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Mine pops with a totally stock exhaust especially between shifts above 3k


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You had MAC shorties at one time, correct? Did you have any fitment issues? My midpipe on the passenger side isn't fitting right to.the headers

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You had MAC shorties at one time, correct? Did you have any fitment issues? My midpipe on the passenger side isn't fitting right to.the headers

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Can you elaborate please? I've had my eye on the Macs.
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I'll post pics up in a few minutes but on the passenger header where connects to the mid pipe is cockeyed. The left side is farther up than the right. The driver side header went up fine and I don't have any leaks on the block on either side. Its just there.

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Did you strip it or bend it?

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No, I haven't bent or stripped anything. That's how it lined up

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Post a picture so we can see exactly what you're talking about

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I attached two pictures, one of which is the driver side where it ISNT leaking and the other is the passenger where it is. On the passenger side there is a gap (in the picture) but on the other side(of the same header) there is no gap whatsoever

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Also, it is incredibly tight. Tightening more will bend the bracket things

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If there's no exhaust leak I would just leave it.... It looks OK to me but I am no pro

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It leaks terribly. I'm taking it to a shop to get my mid pipe bent.

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Oh well that's not good Lmao. Deff take it to an exhaust shop

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Are these the Mac ones? If you ever do any research on Mac thats one of the things you'll find....sometimes there stuff is hit or miss. Ive used a bunch of their products and never had an issue. I have friends with Mustangs who wont even touch their stuff...
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Are these the Mac ones? If you ever do any research on Mac thats one of the things you'll find....sometimes there stuff is hit or miss. Ive used a bunch of their products and never had an issue. I have friends with Mustangs who wont even touch their stuff...
Yes, they are Macs. I had an exhaust shop fix it for $40. No big deal.

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Tip for bbk ceramic shorty headers. Use a ratcheting 1/2 wrench for all the bolts. Use pb later and seperate studs and bolts. Stub socket size is 8mm. Put all studs in the cylinder head first. Drop cats and x pipe completely. Remover intake. Remove battery and tray. When rrassembling, put a jack under the exhaust to lift and align it. Retorque bolts from inside to out after exhaust is connected. Put it all back together. Carry 1/2 ratcheting wrench with you in your glove box to tighten headers at any time if they leak. The ceramic headers smoke and smell when you first start the car and they heat up. This is with the gaskets from bbk as well. I hope these are good tips. I am a huge guy with large hands and this made my life much easier for the install.

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You had MAC shorties at one time, correct? Did you have any fitment issues? My midpipe on the passenger side isn't fitting right to.the headers

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The only issue I had was the collector studs that came with the headers. The studs would bottom out before the midpipe would completely seal to the headers. I swapped the studs and the problem solved.
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