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Old 09-04-2014, 08:19 PM   #1
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Build. Should I upgrade injectors?

So I have a 2014 pp mustang mt. I have steeda intake, 93 tune, 80mm gt 5.0 throttle body, bbk shorties, and stock exhaust. I am planning on a catless x pipe and upgraded injectors. Is this doable in a n/a 3.7 and what are the gains. I would go with 60lbs I have read that stock they are 29lb. Anyone done this without being sc or turbo

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injectors will not help much on a N/A motor. i would say skip the injectors and look for something beneficial.
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There is absolutely no need for bigger injectors if you are staying NA and regular pump gas.

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I am always using 93 octane and won't be going over that. What other beneficial and affordable mods can I do at this point to get me over 300 hp and tq

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Ported upper and lower intake manifolds?

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Nitrous a 75shot will do
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I don't mess with nitrous on a daily driver. I want constant power. Not only when I hit a button for it.


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How about the water/method kits? Anyone messed with those yet

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Well your gonna have a tough time getting there a cheap and affordable way.. most N/A guys with full bolts ons haven't even broken the 300rwhp mark
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I dynod at 275rwhp with full bolt ons and ported manifolds before i went fi. My car is an auto
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Long tubes instead of shorties and an off road x-pipe....and instead of injectors save that for gears and a one piece drive shaft


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Nitrous would be perfect for a daily all u have to do is hit a button when u need it.. so it's not always putting stress

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I used to daily my car with a 100shot you only use the spray when you need it or for fun..
now I'm daily driving it boosted
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:04 AM   #12
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Good point. I like the shorties because the low end torque. I have 3.31 gears since I have the performnace package. I have a 1 piece drive shaft too. The manual makes more hp that the auto correct?

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Never used a button for nitrous. This is 2014 not a fast and furious movie

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in a way a WOT switch is a button...
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I dynod at 275rwhp with full bolt ons and ported manifolds before i went fi. My car is an auto
My 3.7 automatic was and is close to 300 rwhp. I dyno at 297 rwhp with my bolt on mods. 😎

OP, just go procharger supercharger and done. 400 rwhp and perfect for DD. Power is always there when you nail the gas pedal but if not its like you don't even have a supercharger on it.

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in a way a WOT switch is a button...
No necessarily.

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If you have the green, Procharge it like Kona said. Never have an issue with power again. Lol I was actually looking at BBK shorties. Do you like them? They worth the $400?
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i always thought shorties were for mid to high hp? and LT more for the low end tQ?
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i always thought shorties were for mid to high hp? and LT more for the low end tQ?
You've got it backwards,
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Lt is for the mid to high hp but yields less tq gain. The shorties give some hp but more low to mid range tq than lt headers. Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If going the sc route than I would do lt headers. If turbo then stock or shorties. If 1/4 and 1/8 car than shorties are better IMHO because tq is what moves you off the line quicker and you aren't spinning it up to 10 mph at the track unless sc or turbo

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in a way a WOT switch is a button...

What a WOT / RPM window switch is that a button is not, is consistent. Its very easy to be safe on nitrous, but its very easy to blow something up too. Just tap the rev limiter once or twice with a button spraying and see how that stock plastic IM holds up haha.
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How about meth injection? Anyone done that on the 3.7 yet?

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How about meth injection? Anyone done that on the 3.7 yet?

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No need for it on a basic Bolton NA 3.7

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Soooo. 80mm throttle body, catless xpipe, shorty headers, steeda cai, dyno tune, lightweight driveshaft......is 300 rwhp and 290rwtq possible? Would coil packs, spark plugs, injectors, and porting upper/lower im's make a difference? ??

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Soooo. 80mm throttle body, catless xpipe, shorty headers, steeda cai, dyno tune, lightweight driveshaft......is 300 rwhp and 290rwtq possible? Would coil packs, spark plugs, injectors, and porting upper/lower im's make a difference? ??

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Old 09-05-2014, 01:03 PM   #26
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You only mentioned injectors not being needed. Obviously you don't read very good. The question was broader than your answer

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And you listed injectors again

Injectors - no
Coil packs - no
Spark plugs - no
Porting - no

None of the stuff you listed will help a normal bolton NA 3.7.

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Ok good to know. Just wanted to know why it is listed they make a difference with hp/tq nd if people have actually gained anything from those mods. I do appreciate the info. I listen to forum members more than parts companies who have "dyno" graphs showing there gains

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If you want 300 go with full exhaust and full Boltons and a good tune. # chasing is a dead end road as every dyno reads different. But yes you will get close may be slightly over 300 but as I said every dyno is different

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Soooo. 80mm throttle body, catless xpipe, shorty headers, steeda cai, dyno tune, lightweight driveshaft......is 300 rwhp and 290rwtq possible? Would coil packs, spark plugs, injectors, and porting upper/lower im's make a difference? ??

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Here is my list mods. Do this and you should get over 300 rwhp with a manual. I got 297 rwhp with my auto 3.7. I got 294 rwhp 91 Bama tune

91 MPT Tune
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Ok good to know. Just wanted to know why it is listed they make a difference with hp/tq nd if people have actually gained anything from those mods. I do appreciate the info. I listen to forum members more than parts companies who have "dyno" graphs showing there gains

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They are trying to sell there products that's what they say that. But notice they say " up to this # " then is not false advertising if you only pick up .5 hp. Alot of people fall for there adds bc they do not know better.

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Ported the upper and lower will help with hp/tq. More so in the mid to upper rpm range but what I did was I got shorty headers to bring back the low end. Most with full bolt-ons are seeing around 295-305 rwhp depending on dyno, tune etc.
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Ok cool. I want to be close to those numbers because it would make a good solid performing car for weekend track and spirited driving with local clubs. I will go turbo or sc someday but for now alot more tq and a little more hp will be satisfyingly

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Ok cool. I want to be close to those numbers because it would make a good solid performing car for weekend track and spirited driving with local clubs. I will go turbo or sc someday but for now alot more tq and a little more hp will be satisfyingly

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Unfortunately, the thing that really lacks in the 3.7 is torque. Even with all my bolt on mods my rwtq was 276. Heck , a stock 2010 GT is probably higher rwtq coming from factory with no mods. Rwhp the 3.7 responds awesome and crushes numbers but when it comes too torque, not so good. Actually, fair at best.

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Yours was with a 91 octane tune and your an automatic too. What's the results for a manual transmission and 93 octane I wonder?

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