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Old 09-05-2014, 06:30 PM   #1
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Procharger psi?

I've been researching the procharger kit for the 3.7 and I can't figure out what the base psi is. Procharger states 8psi but I noticed that most installed kits only put out around 6-7 psi. Is it just the aftermarket exhaust that's dropping the psi or did procharger change pulley size? Also what size pulley does the procharger come with?



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The kit for the V8 stg 2 was advertised 7+ psi. I only saw 6 psi with mine. I have stock exhaust and everything.
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I should have mentioned I'm talking about the kit for the 3.7 mustang not the v8 but thanks anyway


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I should have mentioned I'm talking about the kit for the 3.7 mustang not the v8 but thanks anyway


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Yeah I know that's why I stated for the v8. I think they overrate their boost on their kits. I was just sharing my experience.
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Thanks, I'm trying to figure out if a pulley swap is needed to get that 8psi. My goal is to hit 440-450rwhp on dyno with a procharger or LPF turbo kit just without headers


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6lbs you'll need a pulley swap to get those numbers.
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Thanks, I'm trying to figure out if a pulley swap is needed to get that 8psi. My goal is to hit 440-450rwhp on dyno with a procharger or LPF turbo kit just without headers


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I saw a thread of another forum where a procharger on base tune was dyno'd at 400/300 with basic bolt ons. I'm guessing it's at 7 psi (give or take). At the end of the day, that's like what ~60 units of torque over stock for $6k? (I'm not sure how much torque is gained under the curve). You will be much happier going with a turbo, ~450/400 at less than 10 psi. Given you have a good tune, and a consistent/reliable dyno.
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I saw a thread of another forum where a procharger on base tune was dyno'd at 400/300 with basic bolt ons. I'm guessing it's at 7 psi (give or take). At the end of the day, that's like what ~60 units of torque over stock for $6k? (I'm not sure how much torque is gained under the curve). You will be much happier going with a turbo, ~450/400 at less than 10 psi. Given you have a good tune, and a consistent/reliable dyno.
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how reliable is that though??? every turbo 3.7 i've seen with a stock motor has blown, kerdogg, solobusa,jimc, i'm sure someone with an LPF kit will chime in but those cars havent really been running around on a stock motor too long.

and with my procharger i made 406rwhp and 336rwtq...
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how reliable is that though??? every turbo 3.7 i've seen with a stock motor has blown, kerdogg, solobusa,jimc, i'm sure someone with an LPF kit will chime in but those cars havent really been running around on a stock motor too long.

and with my procharger i made 406rwhp and 336rwtq...
I believe key point here would be 'circumstances/load' under which those engines were blown. I remember solobusa let his engine go around 515 while going TT route? I'm not too sure about his final numbers but again, if you push a procharger to let's say 15-20 psi of boost (if it's possible) where it is capable of making similar numbers to that of above mentioned turbo setups - I don't see anything else but kaboom!

Granted we don't have a proven turbo kit for your sixers out there yet, but I'm speaking from a theoretical point of view. Keeping boost and everything else the same, a turbo will yield better numbers in my opinion.. in general. It won't have a steady/flat torque graph like a SC; I'm sure its something that can be worked around with a tune.

Now again, I'm not saying turbo setup is best option out there. It all depends on what the person wants to do with it, what is his taste is like and what are his goals from a FI setup. It remains to be seen what LPF kit is capable of in the long run.

Ps: great numbers you've got there with your procharger! I've read your build thread on another forum.. job well done!

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The biggest thing that keeps me in the turbo camp is that atrocious torque number from the procharger vs the turbo, granted I'd really need to see the power curve for both for a fair comparison.

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Procharger psi?

So it looks like 6psi with base pulley does anyone know what size that pulley is? I keep reading that 450rwhp is the sweet spot on these 3.7s and I don't want too push the motor to hard. Wouldn't push 10psi be too much for the stock bottom end?


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So it looks like 6psi with base pulley does anyone know what size that pulley is? I keep reading that 450rwhp is the sweet spot on these 3.7s and I don't want too push the motor to hard. Wouldn't push 10psi be too much for the stock bottom end?


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you gotta remember motors dont let go at a certian horsepower number there is a lot of other factors that contribute to motor failure.. i will have to look at my procharger booklet to see what pulley is provided
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The biggest thing that keeps me in the turbo camp is that atrocious torque number from the procharger vs the turbo, granted I'd really need to see the power curve for both for a fair comparison.

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one thing to keep in mind with these single turbo kits is emissions they get rid of the catalitic converters..

i'm not knocking the lpf turbo kit by any means they are definately great if you wanna make a lot of power but i'm gonna sit back and see how the LPF cars are doing in the future.. i think it takes a lot of R&D and good tuning with forced induction thats why CFM hasnt released there kit and thats why the single hellion kits have been dicontinued. if you followed my build you know that i originally started with the hellion kit and switched over to the procharger
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one thing to keep in mind with these single turbo kits is emissions they get rid of the catalitic converters..

i'm not knocking the lpf turbo kit by any means they are definately great if you wanna make a lot of power but i'm gonna sit back and see how the LPF cars are doing in the future.. i think it takes a lot of R&D and good tuning with forced induction thats why CFM hasnt released there kit and thats why the single hellion kits have been dicontinued. if you followed my build you know that i originally started with the hellion kit and switched over to the procharger
Do you have a link to your build thread?

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Yes I have read your build thread it looks like your break just over 400rwhp but you have headers and a ported intake manifold. I only have 73mm throttle body and a o/r x pipe but I am a manual so I think with a little more boost on my set up I can make the power I want without installing headers. I would be happy at 430rwhp without headers, do you think it's possible?

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I'm sure it's possible but the stock exhaust is pretty restrictive for boost.. 2.25 inch piping
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So I need to ditch my axle back and get a catback I would rather not change my headers unless it absolutely is necessary. I have a x pipe and resonators welded in with a Roush axle back and I already attract to much attention. Headers would get me some tickets

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I would go with shorties, then the procharger and see where you are at. Then look at changing the catback to a larger diameter if you're not around where you want to be.
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The biggest thing that keeps me in the turbo camp is that atrocious torque number from the procharger vs the turbo, granted I'd really need to see the power curve for both for a fair comparison.

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For a fair comparrision, you want both a procharged and turbo car to run on the dyno on the same day

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one thing to keep in mind with these single turbo kits is emissions they get rid of the catalitic converters..

i'm not knocking the lpf turbo kit by any means they are definately great if you wanna make a lot of power but i'm gonna sit back and see how the LPF cars are doing in the future.. i think it takes a lot of R&D and good tuning with forced induction thats why CFM hasnt released there kit and thats why the single hellion kits have been dicontinued. if you followed my build you know that i originally started with the hellion kit and switched over to the procharger
Well for some people that may obviously be an issue. But thankfully in my state we aren't tested so I can happily do just about whatever. Obviously I can still get cited if I piss off a cop well enough to make him inspect the vehicle, but around here that's very rare.

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Same here no inspection but they will bust you if your exhaust is blasting to loud

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The kit for the V8 stg 2 was advertised 7+ psi. I only saw 6 psi with mine. I have stock exhaust and everything.
You have a Procharger? Are you happy...thinking of getting one

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Same here... But im a newbie to car mods. How does the procharger change the life expectancy of the other parts? In other words, what else should I expect to save up for? Thanks for the education!
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From what I found supercharger oil change every 5k and belt change around 10-15k

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It's a good kit that makes good power just has a few turn offs. When belts break they sometimes damage the front seal of the blower, then when it's time to change the belt the head unit need removal for belt installation.

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It's a good kit that makes good power just has a few turn offs. When belts break they sometimes damage the front seal of the blower, then when it's time to change the belt the head unit need removal for belt installation.

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Do you have any numbers? And any extra mods?..

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I don't have a procharger I was just researching it before I decided to get a turbo kit instead. The number I found looks like low 400rwhp and around 330rwlb-ft with stock car stock pulley. It seems that a full exhaust and a pulley swap to 10psi yields 440-460rwhp. Should be a good mid 12 second car with stock pulley though if you can find traction.

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I don't have a procharger I was just researching it before I decided to get a turbo kit instead. The number I found looks like low 400rwhp and around 330rwlb-ft with stock car stock pulley. It seems that a full exhaust and a pulley swap to 10psi yields 440-460rwhp. Should be a good mid 12 second car with stock pulley though if you can find traction.

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Look at the LPF turbo 3.7 thread all the info you need is there.

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I'm really not sure why people are so fixated on what they say are low trq numbers for the Procharger. Honesty if I was boosted I wouldn't want a whole bunch of trq. You can see with all these custom turbo kit builders they have a hard time with traction from 1st-3rd. I'd rather have lower trq and an easier chance for my tires to lock onto the road.
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I'm really not sure why people are so fixated on what they say are low trq numbers for the Procharger. Honesty if I was boosted I wouldn't want a whole bunch of trq. You can see with all these custom turbo kit builders they have a hard time with traction from 1st-3rd. I'd rather have lower trq and an easier chance for my tires to lock onto the road.
Better suspension and tires will fix that right up.
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Better suspension and tires will fix that right up.
^ This.

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I think a couple of them have all ready done so and still have issues. Hell my Dad's 07 Super Snake had issues in the same gears and he had a fully built suspension with wheels and tires. There's just a point on these car i think where it just doesn't matter people are going to want their cake and eat it too. More power to those doing these custom builds. It's awesome.

I know there are a lot of people out there like me who love modding their car but there's a certain point where they just won't cross and I think that being able to install a tried and true Procharger and gain over 100 hp to the wheels is more than enough for most.
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