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Old 09-23-2014, 12:41 PM   #36
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Marketing tricks. They'll say anything to sell products. Maybe 1-2 horsepower, if anything. If performance is your primary goal you'll get much better bang for the buck elsewhere. Get mufflers if you want to change the sound of your stang.

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Well there are straight through mufflers that do have a higher "flow" because there is less baffling and louvering, but you are correct, exhaust flow at that point in the system is all about sound.

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Power will come by swapping out your midpipe. Also in our mustangs "cat-back" systems are gimmicks too. They charge $500 for mufflers or "axel-bavks" then add in larger over axel pipes and charge you $700 for a "cat-back" system.

For me, when I first got my car made me question. I have modded cars in the past and a "cat-back" exhaust always changed out the OEM piping from the catalytic converter (s) all the way back. For the Mustang it's just over axel piping and mufflers....soooo it sounded fishy to me.
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Power will come by swapping out your midpipe. Also in our mustangs "cat-back" systems are gimmicks too. They charge $500 for mufflers or "axel-bavks" then add in larger over axel pipes and charge you $700 for a "cat-back" system.

For me, when I first got my car made me question. I have modded cars in the past and a "cat-back" exhaust always changed out the OEM piping from the catalytic converter (s) all the way back. For the Mustang it's just over axel piping and mufflers....soooo it sounded fishy to me.
It must be different for some of those catbacks. My Pypes catbacks go all the way from the midpipe and cats back.

It is a larger diameter and I probably picked up a very small amount of power versus just an axleback, but nothing crazy. I would say MAYBE 5 hp.

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It must be different for some of those catbacks. My Pypes catbacks go all the way from the midpipe and cats back.

It is a larger diameter and I probably picked up a very small amount of power versus just an axleback, but nothing crazy. I would say MAYBE 5 hp.

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Pypes has a cat-back that changes your midpipe? That's pretty cool.
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Pypes has a cat-back that changes your midpipe?
No, I worded that slightly odd. It goes straight from the midpipe back.

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Oh gotcha. Well see then it's not really a "true" cat-back. However most companies sell mid pipes and cat-back and headers and try to sell them all in stacked packages.
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Here's cold start up (when it sounds best) of my single tip GT500 exhaust from cabin, windows down. Air raid CAI and resonator deletes (doesn't really make it loud tbh, okay maybe a little bit at WOT but with added rasp)
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Guys, I bought the quad exhaust (stock v6 muffler with dual tips) + rear valance...

Result:
>>>>> 0% drone
>>>>> 100% rasp

It sucks big time! :p
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Guys, I bought the quad exhaust (stock v6 muffler with dual tips) + rear valance...

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It sucks big time! :p
That sucks. You bought this from someone local in Dubai? I figure you did, since you mentioned it just yesterday. At least you didn't have to pay international shipping then.

I just quickly scrolled through this thread, and I'm surprised you went with this setup. You got many responses to your OP, and no one recommended this. I think Borla Touring is what you should get.

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If I had a dollar for every time someone started a thread on what exhaust they should get, get an overwhelming exhaust on the what to pick, and then they pick something totally different and then say it sucks, I would be rich

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If I had a dollar for every time someone started a thread on what exhaust they should get, get an overwhelming exhaust on the what to pick, and then they pick something totally different and then say it sucks, I would be rich

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@sakib most of the guys recommended borla and flowmaster. I was using flowmaster street.

That's why I asked if there will be some performance difference over a stock and after market muffler.

Anyway, I hope the rasp will get tired and decides to fade away? Lol!

Feedbacks are ofcourse appreciated. Exhaust is perhaps a trial and error exercise. 1 tone could be perfect for someone and could be the exact opposite for another person.

It is an expensive trial and error though!

In my case > Magnaflow street to flowmaster super 44 to flowmaster series 10 back to magnaflow street then back to stock with dual tips.

Again the objective is to get the most mellow sound for the exhaust cut out kit... this option is a fail though...

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There is not a single muffler that will kill the rasp. If you want the rasp gone you will need to replace the resonators you removed. With the stock mufflers, some vibrants should do that nicely.

Even with my catted H, if I use the stock mufflers it rasps, just not as loud as with the Borla's.

And to clarify, I like race car rasp. But catless rasp is a different animal... no bueno.
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I mean *Magnaflow street

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Go with Borla Touring or GT500s. Since your using cutouts this will work nicely with them and will still sound good. You will need resonators or a H-pipe with cats to kill the rasp. The X-pipe is your problem here. If you want to keep it your only option is resonators. No muffler change will get rid of the rasp. Alot of the suggestions here have been good. I've had GT500, FRPP sports, Magnaflow street cat back and now Borla S-Types on my six so I know what your going through. I mostly did it to experiment though and because I have a serious mod bug lol
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Thanks man! Is there a resonator from American Muscle that i can easily dump in to my x pipe?

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I don't think so. If you have an exhaust guy you go to then they might have some resonators in stock that will work. Other than that you can see if you can get some vibrant resonators online.
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Me too. I have Corsa Sport. Couldn't be happier!

No drone at all. When under load, it makes your car sound like a Ferrari.


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I have Corsa mufflers. They are excellent. Mellow when at idle and cruse but just all out at WOT.
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Question about resonators>>> is there an ideal size / shape that can eliminate the rasp? Is bigger better? Or the smaller ones are better?

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I must really be stupid or just plain "THICK"

I would like to really know why anyone would put on mufflers other then Magnaflow streets, Borla Touring or Ford Racing Touring and then want to chop up their pipes to add resonators. Why buy the loud raspy headache mufflers in the first place if you don't want the noise?
I know there are Mustang owners that love the loud pipes and would like them even louder but I'm talking about people that don't want the obnoxious loud mufflers to begin with but but them anyway.
These people just keep me confused as hell.
It's not like they were not informed on how mufflers sound before they plunk their money down.
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I would like to really know why anyone would put on mufflers other then Magnaflow streets, Borla Touring or Ford Racing Touring and then want to chop up their pipes to add resonators. Why buy the loud raspy headache mufflers in the first place if you don't want the noise?
I know there are Mustang owners that love the loud pipes and would like them even louder but I'm talking about people that don't want the obnoxious loud mufflers to begin with but but them anyway.
These people just keep me confused as hell.
It's not like they were not informed on how mufflers sound before they plunk their money down.
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Sometimes you can create a totally unique sound.

I know I'm adding resonators because I may be swapping over to a Catless setup and because at the moment it's a little raspy over 3k. But every other RPM range, I like it.

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Ronnie the muffler that i got is not loud at all. It is a stock v6 muffler with dual tips. My issue is the rasp even on low rpm. If you will look at my first post, the idea is to get the most mellow sounding muffler and put an exhaust cut out so I can control the loudness (specially when there are cops around).

My previous previous set up: LT headers, off road x pipe, Flowmaster Series 10. And that was loud and I love it! The difference now is I am opting for a controlled loudness. A bit louder than stock but damn loud with a push of a button.

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Ronnie the muffler that i got is not loud at all. It is a stock v6 muffler with dual tips. My issue is the rasp even on low rpm. If you will look at my first post, the idea is to get the most mellow sounding muffler and put an exhaust cut out so I can control the loudness (specially when there are cops around).

My previous previous set up: LT headers, off road x pipe, Flowmaster Series 10. And that was loud and I love it! The difference now is I am opting for a controlled loudness. A bit louder than stock but damn loud with a push of a button.

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Stock v6 with dual tips?! I had played with that idea when I had em! Did you drill a hole in your muffler to install a second tip, or if you merely replaced single tip with a dual?

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It was an exact duplicate of the stock shelby mufflers..yes they drilled a hole for 2nd tip
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It was an exact duplicate of the stock shelby mufflers..yes they drilled a hole for 2nd tip
Oh no! That could be why it's raspy! You never want to drill into a muffler.
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Oh no! That could be why it's raspy! You never want to drill into a muffler.
This. Ruins the sound baffling. The louvers inside are meant to direct sound in one direction unless they're designed with two tips and exit points.

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Oh s**t! Do you think resonators will still help solve the problem?

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Possibly somewhat, but I'm very skeptical that it will sound decent even after that. The acoustics in the muffler itself has been changed.

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Should I just seal (weld) on the 2nd opening then? So it goes back to stock single exit point?

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Whats your exhaust setup besides these mufflers? Do you have cats and factory resonators? If yes, then adding another pair of resonators isn't going to offer any significant help.

However if you don't, definitely add some glass packs!!

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Should I just seal (weld) on the 2nd opening then? So it goes back to stock single exit point?

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Ya, close it up. Hopefully it's not to badly damaged.
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@bazinga LT headers, catless x pipe.

I will just close the 2nd hole.. tested it and noticed that majority of the sound/air goes out in the 2nd hole.

Will update you guys... thanks a ton!

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@bazinga LT headers, catless x pipe.

I will just close the 2nd hole.. tested it and noticed that majority of the sound/air goes out in the 2nd hole.

Will update you guys... thanks a ton!

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Before you do that, I'd suggest putting a pair 18' glass packs and see how you like the sound. More than 80% of rasp you have atm is due to 'catless x' pipe and long tubes.

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Old 09-27-2014, 02:53 AM   #69
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Yeah I wouldn't attack the tips first because you are going to have rasp regardless without resonators. Have you decided where you are going to place the cutouts and resonators? I've toyed with the idea of putting cutouts after the resonators.
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@livewire haven't sorted it out yet...

@bazinga no access to Glas packs here. I am closing the 2nd tip as the sound / air is mostly flowing there.
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