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Old 10-02-2014, 10:57 AM   #1
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MPT tune vs. BAMA?

Just wondering which you would recommend? Which is more aggressive? And will yield the biggest difference particularly in throttle response?


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I have bama 91 race tune and that's all I've ever used. But I have read (on here) mpt is more aggressive throughout threads. They offer a pretty cool ghost cam tune (in 3 different categories) for when ur car is idle. From clips online it sounds great.


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I have heard about the ghost cam, can you explain what that does? How big of a difference did you notice from the stock tune to your 91 Bama?
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I have heard about the ghost cam, can you explain what that does? How big of a difference did you notice from the stock tune to your 91 Bama?
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I have heard about the ghost cam, can you explain what that does? How big of a difference did you notice from the stock tune to your 91 Bama?

It messes with cam timing at idle to create a lopey exhaust sound that sounds like it's coming from an engine with performance cams. Only problem is that it destroys your gas mileage in city driving and it isn't good to run with cats.
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I've been using Bama tunes since I had my 2007 Mustang, I loved them.

Until I got MPT recently, LOL!

Sorry, AM! But MPT is far superior than your tuning department! If you want a more aggressive tune, Go with MPT... Best throttle response? MPT.

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I have heard about the ghost cam, can you explain what that does? How big of a difference did you notice from the stock tune to your 91 Bama?


But if you get the Ghost Cam, Make sure you get the regular one too as you get it for only $25.

I didn't do that and had to buy another one, Because I found the Ghost Cam tune should only be used when you want to show it off, lol. On an automatic, It looks very dumb while braking for red lights and stuff. It makes your car want to go forward, So it's jumpy until you can slam your brakes down.
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I've been using Bama tunes since I had my 2007 Mustang, I loved them.



Until I got MPT recently, LOL!



Sorry, AM! But MPT is far superior than your tuning department! If you want a more aggressive tune, Go with MPT... Best throttle response? MPT.



Get MPT!

Gotti was it a profound difference in throttle response? Way way more
Noticeable? U got the ghost cam as well?


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Gotti was it a profound difference in throttle response? Way way more
Noticeable? U got the ghost cam as well?


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Yes! VERY noticeable. I can feel the response is definitely quicker... And yes, I posted the video in my previous post

It's 100X better, Believe that!

Get the most aggressive option if you want to switch over to MPT from Bama tune.
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What gears u got? Ur car stick? And where is that vid? I feel the "aggressiveness" in auto is more noticeable due to the simple fact that it's preprogrammed for certain shift points etc etc


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What gears u got? Ur car stick? And where is that vid? I feel the "aggressiveness" in auto is more noticeable due to the simple fact that it's preprogrammed for certain shift points etc etc


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4:10 Gears, Automatic transmission.

It's in the post you replied to, Refresh the thread. I edited it.
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Would you recommend changing gears first or intake/tune? I just bought my car new and it has the BS stock 2,73 gears


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4:10 Gears, Automatic transmission.



It's in the post you replied to, Refresh the thread. I edited it.

All I really here is ghost cam on stock exhaust?


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I haven't even read the responses... lol. Don't know why we keep having these. Lots of opinions and little to no actual comparisons. I would give anything for a true Dyno and road review from a third party source of: BAMA, Steeda, MPT and Lund
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Would you recommend changing gears first or intake/tune? I just bought my car new and it has the BS stock 2,73 gears


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I have stock 2.73 gears on my stick shift. I have exhaust and cold air intake ... Just recently put tuner on and it's great. Avg mpg 23 half city and freeway driving


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All I really here is ghost cam on stock exhaust?


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The ghost cam doesn't affect the performance... It's more for show lol. It makes your car shake like crazy.

If you just want performance, go with the regular MPT tune.
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Oh I misunderstood u I thought u had a video showing Mpt tune not the gosht cam. Yeah I know that's all for show lol


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If you change your gears, You need to tune your car too at the same time, Or else your speedometer will be way off anyways.

If you can, Get the gears AND the tuner/tune.
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I haven't even read the responses... lol. Don't know why we keep having these. Lots of opinions and little to no actual comparisons. I would give anything for a true Dyno and road review from a third party source of: BAMA, Steeda, MPT and Lund
I'm telling them by my own personal experience. I've never tried Steeda or Lund.

But as someone who used Bama tunes for a 2007 mustang for 2 years, Then moved on to a 2013 and used Bama for 9 months, Only to switch over to MPT and notice a world of a difference? I think that alone means MPT > Bama.
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I'm telling them by my own personal experience. I've never tried Steeda or Lund.

But as someone who used Bama tunes for a 2007 mustang for 2 years, Then moved on to a 2013 and used Bama for 9 months, Only to switch over to MPT and notice a world of a difference? I think that alone means MPT > Bama.
And BAMA people say same. Dyno numbers? 1/4 times? Thats what I have yet to see. This is all about opinions and I respect them all. Just dying for a true comparison.
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Just wondering which you would recommend? Which is more aggressive? And will yield the biggest difference particularly in throttle response?
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I've been using Bama tunes since I had my 2007 Mustang, I loved them.

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I haven't even read the responses... lol. Don't know why we keep having these. Lots of opinions and little to no actual comparisons. I would give anything for a true Dyno and road review from a third party source of: BAMA, Steeda, MPT and Lund

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And BAMA people say same. Dyno numbers? 1/4 times? Thats what I have yet to see. This is all about opinions and I respect them all. Just dying for a true comparison.
I ran Bama for 2 years, then switched to MPT last summer. MPT tune felt faster, so I took it to the track. Ran twice on Bama, then twice on MPT.

1. 13.941 @ 101.26
2. 13.928 @ 101.22
3. 13.563 @ 103.58
4. 13.459 @ 104.15

Same mods, same night, different tune. I didn't run my Bama tune after it cooled off, but the MPT tune runs 13.2 @ 105 in good cool weather.
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I ran Bama for 2 years, then switched to MPT last summer. MPT tune felt faster, so I took it to the track. Ran twice on Bama, then twice on MPT.



1. 13.941 @ 101.26

2. 13.928 @ 101.22

3. 13.563 @ 103.58

4. 13.459 @ 104.15



Same mods, same night, different tune. I didn't run my Bama tune after it cooled off, but the MPT tune runs 13.2 @ 105 in good cool weather.

Damn... Great numbers


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OP you owe me a dollar. Read previous threads please and use the search feature. I have a thread that literally beats this to death, revives it, and beats it to death a few more times.
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OP you owe me a dollar. Read previous threads please and use the search feature. I have a thread that literally beats this to death, revives it, and beats it to death a few more times.
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Lol I think because it has so many replies lol


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Which is exactly why you should read it. More replies = more info
Why start a new thread asking literally what is discussed and explained in that thread.

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Grabber, why not link it instead of getting mad lol

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Grabber...I thought I was following your Bama comparison thread but I must have missed the track comparison similar to that as should above. I guess I'll have to go back and check it out. As I recall you were going to the track but don't recall if you had a chance yet. Also promised some dyno runs. Maybe I missed some stuff.
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I haven't even read the responses... lol. Don't know why we keep having these. Lots of opinions and little to no actual comparisons. I would give anything for a true Dyno and road review from a third party source of: BAMA, Steeda, MPT and Lund
Been there, done that, so last year. Lol. I had my MPT, Bama and Steeda tunes dyno same day.

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There were over 10+ links voltwings provided in the beginning of relevant threads.
No there is not a track or dyno comparison on my thread yet done by me I have been having trouble finding either locally.
There are numerous comparisons even posted on this thread of Bama vs. Mpt runs as well as dyno pull comparisons on a number of threads which were all linked. Kona has posted his dyno results more times than I can count on countless threads. It's all there. Just look for it.

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I'm not getting mad. I'm just saying please use the search function. You are pretty new on here , but it gets very old seeing the same thing posted over and over again when the info is right there. I could care less if you want to spend your time spoon feeding them the info.
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I haven't even read the responses... lol. Don't know why we keep having these. Lots of opinions and little to no actual comparisons. I would give anything for a true Dyno and road review from a third party source of: BAMA, Steeda, MPT and Lund

That's because your not on the right forums. There is a direct comparison of fully data logged and re tuned Bama, MPT and Lund tunes done at the 1/4 drag strip on the same car, same day.


I have all 3 tunes as well and have talked about it on forums. Not to many people going to buy Bama, MPT and spend $200 on a Lund tune.


FWIW the other guy and I both run our MPT tunes after having all 3 tuners fully data logging and as aggressive as they will go.
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I'm not getting mad. I'm just saying please use the search function. You are pretty new on here , but it gets very old seeing the same thing posted over and over again when the info is right there. I could care less if you want to spend your time spoon feeding them the info.
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Same thing you know what I meant. It can be said a million different ways.

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Hey guys, I love these types of threads and actually my favorite kind. I will gladly talk about this and share all my raw data with you guys. First let me say I have been using Bama tunes for almost 4 years and absolutely love them and their customer service. Back when I started on this forum in 2011 Bama was all you really heard about and how amazing they were and since this was my first mustang I went with Bama and no regrets. Over the years there were always tons of threads about which tune is the best and or how Bama was the most conservative of the tunes. People had there favorites but never could people show actual raw data supporting there claim.

Some people said how Bama made the least powerful and conservative tunes but offered no evidence to show how much less compared to another tune. Back over a year ago I go so fed up with hearing about how powerful MPT tune was, Steeda was more powerful, Bama was more powerful, Lund was more powerful, etc.

So over a year ago I decided to see for myself and bring real live data to members here to show where some tunes fell on the power they make. Now please note, I do not have every major tuning company tune out there.

I only have MPT, Steeda and Bama hybrid. I can not speak for Lund, VMP, AED, Custom dyno tune, etc but a lot came up about Steeda and MPT was getting rave reviews over a year ago. Not that I was unhappy with Bama because that was not the case but curiosity got to me and wanted to know what all this MPT talk was about and if it was the real deal. Around that same time Steeda went free tunes for life so I dropped $150 for Steeda and $75 for MPT.

Now please note the bama tune I was running there then hybrid tune and not their new and improved tune. My mustang club had a dyno day and so the battle of the tunes began!

MPT vs Steeda vs Bama Hybrid. The dyno was done on a dyno jet, the octane fuel in my car was 93 but all three were made 91 octane tunes. All three pulls were done same day, same weather conditions and same dyno operator.

91 MPT 297 rwhp @ 276 rwtq

91 Steeda 289 rwhp @ 276 rwtq

91 Bama hybrid 294 rwhp @ 268 rwtq.

As you can see all three results were very close by no means did Bama get killed or makes conservative tunes. Here is my dyno graph and pay no attention to the high AFR on the one. The y band fell off and had to redo the run.

Now, these are only dyno power results. I have not taken the car to the track to see which tune will run my pony the fastest time. With all this said I admit I run my MPT 99% of the time. I feel this tune pulls the hardest and i love its engine breaking on my automatic. For those of us who run MPT tune and have an automatic, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Lol. I feel the shift points on my MPT are slightly better than my hybrid tune but not by much and certainly something that Bama could easily adjust the firmness of shift points.

I can't comment on bama's new tunes but I LOVE Bama as well and with free lifetime tunes, you can't go wrong. That is something MPT is not going to give you for life. Hope this helps.

The Mustang Source Website is complete trash and the moderators are complete toolbags. TMS, Go F yourselves!
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