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Old 10-11-2014, 03:54 AM   #36
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Wouldn't doing a a smaller width change weight as well?
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Yes, but it defeats the purpose in a sense, because you cant put any more tire on there. Those 17 x 8" that got posted earlier wouldn't be very beneficial, because an 8" rim is limited to like a 235 tire. my 19 x 9.5 with 275s are 1/2 lbs lighter than my stock 18 x 8 with 235s. In my mind, even though I only lost 1/2 lb, that's a win in my book because the rim is so much larger. BTW, I was able to get some weights last night




my 19 x 9.5 Breyton GTS-AV with 275 35 19 Nitto Invo = 53.5 lbs each
My GFs 19 x 9.5 SVE Drifts with 275 35 19 Nitto Motivo = 57 lbs each
My Stock GT Rims with 245 40 18 Nitto NT01 = 48.5 lbs each
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My stock fp6 appearance 18x8 wheels weight 57 lbs a piece.

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Yes, but it defeats the purpose in a sense, because you cant put any more tire on there. Those 17 x 8" that got posted earlier wouldn't be very beneficial, because an 8" rim is limited to like a 235 tire. my 19 x 9.5 with 275s are 1/2 lbs lighter than my stock 18 x 8 with 235s. In my mind, even though I only lost 1/2 lb, that's a win in my book because the rim is so much larger. BTW, I was able to get some weights last night




my 19 x 9.5 Breyton GTS-AV with 275 35 19 Nitto Invo = 53.5 lbs each
My GFs 19 x 9.5 SVE Drifts with 275 35 19 Nitto Motivo = 57 lbs each
My Stock GT Rims with 245 40 18 Nitto NT01 = 48.5 lbs each
--- I'll update when I take my Drifts off this afternoon.
I was able to get 275/40 on my pony package 18"s...tore through them pretty quick and didn't like the ride handling. Had slightly better grip than my 245s but I feel more agile.
I see you point though.bi most likely had more weight with the bigger tires and that's prolly right...i should consider some better wheels :-/ I do like those RTR wheels...but I want to keep the 18" size.





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My stock fp6 appearance 18x8 wheels weight 57 lbs a piece.

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You can take the spare out and swap for a tire repair kit, that will drop a little weight. I think the performance package already comes that way.


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I was able to get 275/40 on my pony package 18"s...tore through them pretty quick and didn't like the ride handling. Had slightly better grip than my 245s but I feel more agile.
I see you point though.bi most likely had more weight with the bigger tires and that's prolly right...i should consider some better wheels :-/ I do like those RTR wheels...but I want to keep the 18" size.






Stock fp6 wheels?
The black stock 18 wheels that look like amrs or sves

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Noob question :
I have a 17" stock v6 rim
If I get a 18 or 19" rim logically speaking I should get some skinnier tires so the overall diameter will be the same right?


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Yes, but it defeats the purpose in a sense, because you cant put any more tire on there. Those 17 x 8" that got posted earlier wouldn't be very beneficial, because an 8" rim is limited to like a 235 tire. my 19 x 9.5 with 275s are 1/2 lbs lighter than my stock 18 x 8 with 235s. In my mind, even though I only lost 1/2 lb, that's a win in my book because the rim is so much larger. BTW, I was able to get some weights last night




my 19 x 9.5 Breyton GTS-AV with 275 35 19 Nitto Invo = 53.5 lbs each
My GFs 19 x 9.5 SVE Drifts with 275 35 19 Nitto Motivo = 57 lbs each
My Stock GT Rims with 245 40 18 Nitto NT01 = 48.5 lbs each
My 18 x 10 SVE drifts with 295 35 19 Nitto NT05 were 53.5 lbs each.


Quoted myself because it wouldn't let me edit, but I added the last weight.

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I was able to get 275/40 on my pony package 18"s...tore through them pretty quick and didn't like the ride handling. Had slightly better grip than my 245s but I feel more agile.
I see you point though.bi most likely had more weight with the bigger tires and that's prolly right...i should consider some better wheels :-/ I do like those RTR wheels...but I want to keep the 18" size



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those rims are 18 x 8 right? A 275 may have gone on the rim, but you certainly weren't getting anywhere near 275mm worth of contact patch, which would likely explain the poor handling and life span. I've made the mistake more than once of trying to get too large of a tire on too small of a rim, but all you end up doing in the end is wasting money, because you're only effectively using ~245mm worth of contact patch on an 8" rim anyways since it pulls the sidewall in (another reason for the "poor handling," you've basically got no sidewall).



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I have a 17" stock v6 rim
If I get a 18 or 19" rim logically speaking I should get some skinnier tires so the overall diameter will be the same right?


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You don't need a skinnier tire, you need a tire with a shorter aspect ratio (the middle number). For example, the stock V6 tires are right about 28" tall on a 17" rim. You can get a 275 40 19 and be right about 27.6", or a 275 45 18 and be right about 27.75". Just gotta play with it when tire shopping, Tire Height Calculator - Wallace Racing
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here's a good site for comparing tire sizes.

Tire Size Calculator.
Shows all common sizes with diameters, etc.
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Thanks.
But if the overall diameter is different isn't the speedometer will be thrown off? sorry I'm kinda new with the wheel and tires stuff


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But if the overall diameter is different isn't the speedometer will be thrown off? sorry I'm kinda new with the wheel and tires stuff


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Yes, but ~1/2" isnt going to be enough to matter. In some cases thats the difference between fresh and worn tread. Much more than that though and its going to start making a noticeable impact.
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Noob question :
I have a 17" stock v6 rim
If I get a 18 or 19" rim logically speaking I should get some skinnier tires so the overall diameter will be the same right?


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Not sure i'm guessing the wheel that the SVE is it? it's the 18"x8" wheel that came as an upgrade for the 2012 V6.

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those rims are 18 x 8 right? A 275 may have gone on the rim, but you certainly weren't getting anywhere near 275mm worth of contact patch, which would likely explain the poor handling and life span. I've made the mistake more than once of trying to get too large of a tire on too small of a rim, but all you end up doing in the end is wasting money, because you're only effectively using ~245mm worth of contact patch on an 8" rim anyways since it pulls the sidewall in (another reason for the "poor handling," you've basically got no sidewall).
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that explains alot ...the tires looked practicly new on the outside tread, the inside was worn down bald and the center was pretty even but still not a lot of tread after a few months...again i tore those tires up as they were take offs from a Camaro that came through our dealership and since the dealer wanted to add more "appeal" he took the wheels off the car and put stock tires on the wheels, threw them onto a used car with stock bald tires and threw 20"s on the other car so these brand new tires were left in the back...yay me! lol
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Yup lol no worse feeling than a tire that's bald in the middle with like 1" of perfect tread on either side.
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Will 20" be too big for v6?


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just depends on what tire, how wide the wheel is, and what offset.
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Yup.

Unless you have money burning a hole in your pockets you can get some really nice 19"s that won't destroy your wallet everytime you need tires. You'd be lucky to find an ???/35 20" tires for less than $150 each. It's best to stick with what works.
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You'd be lucky to find tires less than $250 a piece, even if they are crap.
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You'd be lucky to find tires less than $250 a piece, even if they are crap.
Oh yikes! I thought I was being safe at $150...geeeez!!! Lol I could have some sick tires for that price...that's more than most wheels alone!
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Actually, i stand corrected. my 19s were pretty expensive, but i overestimated what the cost of 20s would be. Looks like you can pick up 245 40 20 (still too small of a tire in my opinion, but not the point) for ~$150 or less in a halfway decent summer tire.
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Wow. Cuz I heard that 19" is kinda a hard size to find tires.
I know 18 is probably better performance wise but I just can't stand the fat tire look lol


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Between 18-19-20, 19s are the most costley tires.. and I would say 18s and 20s are about the same... But with 20s ur going to get a heavier rim and bigger diameter wheel

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no wonder lol i was looking at prices for the 20s going wtf... Yeah, 19s are not only hard to find, but apparently expensive too -_-. I done forked up
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Honestly I like thick tires.. I love the drag look.. doesn't mean I'm gonna drive around on tracks tires but I fell 18s r best.. they r lighter, cheaper, and tires r cheaper..

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I'm thinking forgestars I just don't know if I want 10inch or 11 on the back

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Smallest you can put on a 10" wheel is 245 and 11" i think its 255...so again depends what you want to spend on tires...I'm going to start looking for some 9-9.5" wheels. Get some new wheels and tires for spring...might go 255-35 18"s for front tires and 225/45 (50?) 18" fronts
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Go square so you can save money by rotating.
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Go square so you can save money by rotating.
+1 i curently have 245/45 18"s all around
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Yea but I want that concave look

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I'm kinda leaning towards.. these wheels.. too they are 20s.. but they weigh the same as my 18s and with these tires I'll drop 3lbs per tire and have way more tread..

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

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Also with these I'll still get a smaller diameter

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Yikes thats almost 2k for wheels and tires, plus having a low profile like those tires they will wear down faster and depending how you drive and how often you drive tyou could be replacing tires 1 every 6 months..oh and you cant rotate them. but DAMn those wheels look nice. exactly what i want but in 18"
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Sorry to bump in:

I have American racing 20" wheels.

Front - 9" Rear - 10"

Tires (NT05)
- Front: 255x35x20
- rear: 275×35×20

I was thinking of getting a smaller front wheels (with the same design)... like a 17 or 18 (not 19). To give it a more aggressive stance.

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Yikes thats almost 2k for wheels and tires, plus having a low profile like those tires they will wear down faster and depending how you drive and how often you drive tyou could be replacing tires 1 every 6 months..oh and you cant rotate them. but DAMn those wheels look nice. exactly what i want but in 18"
Lol it's 1.5k and it's 540AA so it has a lot of tread

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Sorry to bump in:

I have American racing 20" wheels.

Front - 9" Rear - 10"

Tires (NT05)
- Front: 255x35x20
- rear: 275×35×20

I was thinking of getting a smaller front wheels (with the same design)... like a 17 or 18 (not 19). To give it a more aggressive stance.

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Wouldn't it be easier to get springs that would drop the front more

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I already have a 1.5 drop from h&r

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