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Old 10-13-2014, 06:54 PM   #1
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2014 EcoBoost vs S197 V6

So looks like the V6 takes the EcoBoost stock vs stock.

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nice!!!! that's great news and I hope ppl who do buy the turbo don't mod it up lol


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nice!!!! that's great news and I hope ppl who do buy the turbo don't mod it

Exactly. Throw a couple mods on that and I'm sure it takes the V6 handily.

But I'm still pleased that the 2014 V6 is faster than both the EcoBoost and the 2015 V6.
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how did the v6 take on more hp more low end torque? lol weight?


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That's a PP eco. Comes with 3.55 gears so I'm a little disappointed it didn't beat the '14 V6. And, that is an auto in the '15. The manual went 13.89, so that's good news.

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2014 EcoBoost vs S197 V6

Yeah, in the V6 vs turbo 4 race they were both autos, which I think makes it a fair comparison. Takes the driver out of the equation.

So the 2.73 geared V6 beat the 3.55 geared EcoBoost.
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Yeah, in the V6 vs turbo 4 race they were both autos, which I think makes it a fair comparison. Takes the driver out of the equation.

So the 2.73 geared V6 beat the 3.55 geared EcoBoost.
That's what I'm saying. How did the V6 beat the eco when it has 3.55's? Maybe some wheel spin on the eco? I can't tell whatching the video on my phone.

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victory for the v6! lol hope this vid will convince people to get this one and opt out of turbo 4.


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2014 EcoBoost vs S197 V6

They both looked good off the line.

The 4 actually has the 6 off the line and probably up until 1/8th. Looks like the 6 beats the 4 up top though.
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That's what I'm saying. How did the V6 beat the eco when it has 3.55's? Maybe some wheel spin on the eco? I can't tell whatching the video on my phone.

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In the videos they did mention a lot of wheel hop on the eco. Which makes sense in an IRS car.
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Also the EB time varied all the way to a 15 flat. Maybe heat soak, timing pulled, transmission glitch. ...

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Where are you guys getting the details on the cars? I watched the video and aside from auto vs manual they didn't say much else as far as options or packages that may add weight or better suspension or gears. Without knowing that it's really hard to judge performance of the v6 vs the ecoboost. And kinda disappointed AM didn't add that information to the video.


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victory for the v6! lol hope this vid will convince people to get this one and opt out of turbo 4.


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Where are you guys getting the details on the cars? I watched the video and aside from auto vs manual they didn't say much else as far as options or packages that may add weight or better suspension or gears. Without knowing that it's really hard to judge performance of the v6 vs the ecoboost. And kinda disappointed AM didn't add that information to the video.


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If you watch the video you know the orange EcoBoost is the auto. I didn't know it was a PP one though.
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2014 EcoBoost vs S197 V6

I would say the manual was probably the pp consider it ran 13.8.... .5 seconds better then the auto


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go v66666666 lol I was a little bummed ford came up w the turbo 4. if u look at all videos and stories, they never mention v6 only ecoboost and gt


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If you watch the video you know the orange EcoBoost is the auto. I didn't know it was a PP one though.

Clearly you can tell which car is which. But I'm talking about options and gearing. They essentially made this video to compare the v6 engine against the ecoboost. And without knowing the gears and weight of the cats the video means nothing aside from one car beating another.


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Ford racing has EB4 running 12.57 just with a different ECU calibration and maybe drag radials. None the less it wasn't stock.

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go v66666666 lol I was a little bummed ford came up w the turbo 4. if u look at all videos and stories, they never mention v6 only ecoboost and gt

I'm really disappointed at how much they dumbed down the V6. Purposefully taking a step back baffles me.

Make the 4 better. Not make the 6 worse.
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Ford racing has EB4 running 12.57 just with a different ECU calibration and maybe drag radials. None the less it wasn't stock.

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It was far from stock It did have slicks a custom exhaust set up drag radials the ecu calibration and it was gutted out watch that video again


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Finally, us 6 bangers can **** on somebody Defiantly going to slap some FAT 3.7 badges on my fenders to welcome the ecoboost boys to the club. Here's hoping a coyote doesn't walk by.... But seriously that ecoboost is going to be a monster
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I'm really disappointed at how much they dumbed down the V6. Purposefully taking a step back baffles me.

Make the 4 better. Not make the 6 worse.
+1, it should always be about progression not regression. If they (ford) was concerned about numbers between the 3.7 and the ECO being to close they could have just went a tad more aggressive with the Eco's calibration. Also, are the 15s 3.7s heavier than the 14s 3.7s? I thought I read somewhere that they put on some weight?

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it's the new law Obama put in place mpg crap. that's why ford is doing this I think


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+1, it should always be about progression not regression. If they (ford) was concerned about numbers between the 3.7 and the ECO being to close they could have just went a tad more aggressive with the Eco's calibration. Also, are the 15s 3.7s heavier than the 14s 3.7s? I thought I read somewhere that they put on some weight?

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All of the new cars are heavier than the predecessors (~300lbs). Thanks to the IRS.
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+1, it should always be about progression not regression. If they (ford) was concerned about numbers between the 3.7 and the ECO being to close they could have just went a tad more aggressive with the Eco's calibration. Also, are the 15s 3.7s heavier than the 14s 3.7s? I thought I read somewhere that they put on some weight?

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Yeah, I saw the 15s put on weight. I forget how much, but I know the IRS in itself is a chunk.

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All of the new cars are heavier than the predecessors (~300lbs). Thanks to the IRS.

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Yeah, I saw the 15s put on weight. I forget how much, but I know the IRS in itself is a chunk.

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+1, it should always be about progression not regression. If they (ford) was concerned about numbers between the 3.7 and the ECO being to close they could have just went a tad more aggressive with the Eco's calibration. Also, are the 15s 3.7s heavier than the 14s? I thought I read somewhere that they put on some weight.

It's the body style not the engine that got a little heavier. Between the IRS and other differences the car as a whole is slightly heavier. It's not like ford added more weight to just the V6s to dumb their performance down.

And the 15s didn't increase 300 lbs. from the numbers for released if you compare like models and trims it's less the 100 lbs

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If you watch the video you know the orange EcoBoost is the auto. I didn't know it was a PP one though.
I think he mentions it being a PP. Plus, the wheels are a dead giveaway.

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ima hate on any ecoboost I see on the street lol


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I watched it a couple times and there is no mention of it being a PP. And ford does offer appearance packages as well so you really can't go by Just the wheels. Idk how the 15 options are, but if it's like the 14s the performance packages came with a strut tower brace which it didn't have when they showed the under hood pictures.


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I would take the ecoboost over the 3.7 any day.

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It's the body style not the engine that got a little heavier. Between the IRS and other differences the car as a whole is slightly heavier. It's not like ford added more weight to just the V6s to dumb their performance down.

And the 15s didn't increase 300 lbs. from the numbers for released if you compare like models and trims it's less the 100 lbs

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Yeah that's what I read, motor is the same but the chassis put on weight. I'm quite happy with our pre 15 3.7s!

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I watched it a couple times and there is no mention of it being a PP. And ford does offer appearance packages as well so you really can't go by Just the wheels. Idk how the 15 options are, but if it's like the 14s the performance packages came with a strut tower brace which it didn't have when they showed the under hood pictures.


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The aftermarket will be all over the 2.3 EB. More cars to sell parts to (GLOBAL Engine)
Within a year you will see fully built 2.3s pushing well in excess of 550Rwhp.

The tune at the shop straight up told me he wouldn't charge me a dime for him to tune and drop bigger turbos and play with it. (Im happy with my v6 for now)

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