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Old 11-08-2014, 11:46 AM   #1
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In search of deeper/louder exhaust note

Hey guys. pretty new here. Just starting to mod my 2014 V6. Already installed Roush axle back, Air Raid CAI, and some appearance mods. Looking to get a Bama Tuner, BBK shorty headers and catted X-pipe, and possibly 3.73 gears and new throttle body in the future.

How much louder/deeper will the catter x-pipe and shorty headers make the car?Click image for larger version

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The catted x pipe will definitely make it louder.. and sound more like a Honda lol

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Well then how I do I make it deeper?


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Shorties will make it a little deeper.


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The problem I see with a 3.7 V6 is this:::::

If you make it loud as you would with Borla Ataks or such. The V6 puts out a higher pitched exhaust note. ( Sounds terrible to me)

If you go for the Magnaflow streets or Borla touring s they have a nice deep rumble but neither one is loud.

The stingers are in between.

I have heard the Borla touring with BBK Shorty's and they did sound really good. They are on Siber Express's Mustang and he likes the way they sound. I did like the note but they were still louder and higher pitched then my Streets.

It seems like when you open up the flow on our 3.7's the tone gets raspy and higher and there is not much you can do about it. Add resonators but then you are back to not so loud.

With Borla, the three Mufflers they sell all perform exactly the same but put out different levels of sound.

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I've heard borla stingers with shorty headers and they sound nice and deep. Pretty loud too.


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Like I said, The touring s sounded good.

Here is a comparison.



They were not overly loud and I'm pretty sure the stingers would be louder and probably raspier.
I guess it's like the old saying !
Pipes are in the ear of the beholder

Ken's Mustang sounded great and if the tourings have the same high performance flow as the Ataks or stingers, Why suffer all the noise and awful drone if you don't have to. Also, Why hate the drone and stick resonators on that will cut down flow, add weight and have four extra pipes clamps to cause trouble some day.

I ave a 3.7 V6 and I'm saying you can have one that sounds good but A V6 will NEVER EVER sound as good as a V8.

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^ I have the s-types and they dont drone at all nor are they raspy. Have a nice, clean tone. Not really a fan of the touring as they are way too quiet. I think the s-types are the best sounding axlebacks made for the v6.
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My ATAKS are very loud, but surprisingly not that raspy. Even with a Catless X pipe. No drone either. There's a slight hint, but only when cruising at 80-85 with 3.73 gears.

My old set up of the Pypes mid muffler catback and catted x pipe was very deep and had a nice rumble. But it did get raspy after about 3000 rpm and the drone is horrible when you go to 3.73 gears.

Keep in mind, if you want to sound like a V8, buy a V8. Just make this sound like the best V6 you can.

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I love my magnaflow competition exhaust and bbk shortys it sounds so deep and muscle car.. it gives it that sound nd that aggressive burp

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Hey guys. pretty new here. Just starting to mod my 2014 V6. Already installed Roush axle back, Air Raid CAI, and some appearance mods. Looking to get a Bama Tuner, BBK shorty headers and catted X-pipe, and possibly 3.73 gears and new throttle body in the future.

How much louder/deeper will the catter x-pipe and shorty headers make the car?Attachment 169381Attachment 169382Attachment 169383


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Roush will sound like crap when you replace the mid pipe, if will definitely be louder but not in a good way.

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Roush will sound like crap when you replace the mid pipe, if will definitely be louder but not in a good way.

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Even if I get the mid pipe catted with shorty headers?


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Even if I get the mid pipe catted with shorty headers?


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IMO yep! Once you remove the resonators.......... Loud poop. Its all personal preference though and my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. What sounds terrible to one person might sound great to another. But IMO the sound just gets ridiculously loud and is a raspy mess. Roush sound great as ABs/ shorties combo or just ABs. If I go high flow my Roush will be sold in place for something a little quieter to help balance my sound. I like it loud but stupid loud/raspy doesn't sound good on our 3.7s.

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IMO yep! Once you remove the resonators.......... Loud poop. Its all personal preference though and my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. What sounds terrible to one person might sound great to another. But IMO the sound just gets ridiculously loud and is a raspy mess. Roush sound great as ABs/ shorties combo or just ABs. If I go high flow my Roush will be sold in place for something a little quieter to help balance my sound. I like it loud but stupid loud/raspy doesn't sound good on our 3.7s.

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So do you suggest I don't get a mid pipe, and just get shorty headers and instead of the mid pipe, a get a new throttle body or gears?


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That's your call, just throwing my 2¢ out there. I'm just not sure your going to get the "deeper" sound your looking for, louder...... Definitely. You mention gears or TB, I can honestly say that knowing what I know now gears would have been my first mod hands down! Those 2.73s that I had were absolutely terrible compared to my 3.73s! With the stock gears I could hit 125 km/h in 2nd! Ridiculous. Before you pull the trigger on any mod, research, then research some more and then when you've found what you want....research one more time lol. Hope this helps, happy modding.

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That's your call, just throwing my 2¢ out there. I'm just not sure your going to get the "deeper" sound your looking for, louder...... Definitely. You mention gears or TB, I can honestly say that knowing what I know now gears would have been my first mod hands down! Those 2.73s that I had were absolutely terrible compared to my 3.73s! With the stock gears I could hit 125 km/h in 2nd! Ridiculous. Before you pull the trigger on any mod, research, then research some more and then when you've found what you want....research one more time lol. Hope this helps, happy modding.

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Thanks for the tips! I've been researching for a few months but this seems like an endless circle!


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Mine is one of the deepest v6's I've heard. Here is a clip of a warm start with some revs.

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Mine is one of the deepest v6's I've heard. Here is a clip of a warm start with some revs.

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Sounds really good! Thumbs.

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Hey fast ford 13 I have been looking at getting some bbk shorty headers but from what u have seen online the headers get rid of some of the pop and gurgle with the roush axle backs which I really like and don't want to lose, just wondering what you think of the combo?


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The shortys will give it a better deeper gurgle.. love my shortys.. and to the OP I would get the shortys for deeper exhaust and the gears.. both will give a much better off the line..

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Hey fast ford 13 I have been looking at getting some bbk shorty headers but from what u have seen online the headers get rid of some of the pop and gurgle with the roush axle backs which I really like and don't want to lose, just wondering what you think of the combo?


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My Roush still pop with the shorties, and they really clean the tone up. If you have or are considering Roush, you really can't go wrong with a set of shorties. Other than the ****ty finish (chrome) and overall lack of quality of my bbk headers, they do sound really good and give some noticeable low end tq. Don't worry, they will still pop, and make your Roush sound even better.

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My Roush still pop with the shorties, and they really clean the tone up. If you have or are considering Roush, you really can't go wrong with a set of shorties. Other than the ****ty finish (chrome) and overall lack of quality of the bbk headers, they do sound really good and give some noticeable low end tq. Don't worry, they will still pop, and make your Roush sound even better.

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That's good news, looks like I might have to get my self an early Christmas gift.


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3.7s never sound deep...I'm sorry but if you wanted deep you should have gone with the 5.0


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I disagree, they can be deep, but they will never sound like a v8

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3.7s never sound deep...I'm sorry but if you wanted deep you should have gone with the 5.0


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+1, you can get a deep tone with a 3.7, just not a loud deep tone like a V8.

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@sterylinggrey I have magna flow streets, it is a calm deeper sound. Which is what I wanted. I added on shorty headers, it increased loudness by maybe 2 points, nothing crazy. It sounds perfect right now. Almost v8 like. Nice and deep, slightly bubbly. I have heard long tube headers with x pipe and borla attacks and it sounds like crap in my opinion. It sounds like a ricer!! but yes it is extremely loud and I mean LOUD! I believe the best combo is shorty headers, borla touring, magna flow streets, or borla s, and maybe the x pipe or h pipe. WHY? The exhaust without the midpipe has a perfect pitch and loudness with that combo. If someone wants more power or more loudness, I feel it wouldn't be as drastic adding an x or h pipe with one of those combos, as if I had a pair of Already loud Roush axles on.
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One more comment. . if you decide on x pipe or h pipe I would trade or swap the Roush axlebacks.. If not the combo would be extremely loud and after 2.5-3k rpm it will sounds very very raspy. Now If you just add the shorty headers, I have heard they complement the Roush axle backs very well!
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I don't understand how people say a 6 cylinder mustang will sound like a 4 cylinder honda, I read a review that said the roush axle-backs made her car "sound like a 4 banger" which makes no sense cuz there are a lot of honda's around here that sound nothing like my car. Obviously it will NEVER sound like a V8 because it's a V6 but it will never sound like a honda, but I do agree that some long tube headers, x/h pipe and most axle-backs IMO sound bad, I haven't heard any shorty headers plus x/h pipe and axle back combos.


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I don't understand how people say a 6 cylinder mustang will sound like a 4 cylinder honda, I read a review that said the roush axle-backs made her car "sound like a 4 banger" which makes no sense cuz there are a lot of honda's around here that sound nothing like my car. Obviously it will NEVER sound like a V8 because it's a V6 but it will never sound like a honda, but I do agree that some long tube headers, x/h pipe and most axle-backs IMO sound bad, I haven't heard any shorty headers plus x/h pipe and axle back combos.


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Exactly. Thumbs. Some people just don't get it even if you spoon feed them.

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Here is an example of a deep/loud exhaust. This was my Pypes mid muffler catback with catted shorty x pipe and longtubes. The only problem is it overwhelmed my camera's mic so it cuts in and out. I haven't recorded my new setup yet.

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One more comment. . if you decide on x pipe or h pipe I would trade or swap the Roush axlebacks.. If not the combo would be extremely loud and after 2.5-3k rpm it will sounds very very raspy. Now If you just add the shorty headers, I have heard they complement the Roush axle backs very well!

This looks like what I will be doing! Along with new gears and a tune!


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I've got borla long tubes, had a shop replace the borla x pipe I had with a h pipe, and borla s types.. I also have the throttle body and air raid intake with a tune and overall I'm happy with the sound of my car. Honestly if it was a bit quieter I wouldn't complain at all so I'm actually thinking of adding resonators. Anyways im a +1 on the gears as an option I just swapped to 3.55s and it made the largest difference yet. I'm new to the forum here and was just curious to see what others did for their own cars.
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Seriously...lol wow! The comments on here are just dumbfoundingly stupid!! There are some major retards on here its just too funny. Poor kid just want a a deeper and louder than stock exhaust... it's not rocket science.

OP- X pipe will give you a NASCAR sound...not bad but a slightly higher note. H pipe will give you a deeper tone.
Removing your cats will add rasp and give you that "ricey" sound people are talking about...like a 350z with an exhaust.
Axel backs a a tricky topic. They change in soumd based on the set up. Some more than others. It's hard to say.
Just for reference as I seam to be one of the only ones in here to have done this but I have the bbk Shortie headers, GT OEM H pipe, and MagnaFlow Street series axel backs. Has a nice low tone, not too loud but puts a stock exhaust to shame.
Also if you can find a good deal a CAI will add a little deep note to the over all sound. Not in the exhaust but to the entire driving tone.
That's my 2 cents. Again it's all your choice but there is no point...IMO on you EVERYONE getting a TB...save the $400!! Buy a nice hood or some suspension. Something that will actually be of some benefit.
Now now be nice...

Every one has their own opinion and that's fine. What one likes others hate, for instance I would never put the Roush AB on my car. Personally I think they sound like crap.

While exhaust work isn't rocket science it does take some thought. It's like a puzzle and all the pieces need to fit what you're trying to accomplish. I hate drone and would do anything to get rid of it.

Lastly you talk about a 350z. I traded a 350z for my Mustang and I can tell you this for a fact, I got better tone from my 350z than I have from my Mustang so far. I put a Nismo catback on it and it was beautiful. On the Mustang there are too many choices and variables with the mid pipe. I loved and missed the tone I had in my Z. I'm going to be doing some exhaust work on my Mustang this winter. I'm thinking I'll be doing a Mac weld in Pro chamber, BBK shorties and Borla or Magnaflow AB....we'll see.
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This looks like what I will be doing! Along with new gears and a tune!


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With Roush I think its your best option. What gears are you thinking of putting in?

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