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Old 11-17-2014, 03:39 AM   #1
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BBK Shorty install

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So I decided to get myself some bbk shorty during black friday, but with little to no experience, I wonder if it is going to be hard to install it myself. BBK's installation instruction is not very clear so I'm not sure what i will be dealing with. At the same time I wonder if I will need to buy new gasket for it as well? It will be nice if anyone can share some tips on install these header
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If it needs new gaskets I believe it should come with it, I've never installed shorties, but did longtube headers, Shorties should be a lot easier, as well as I've heard you can do it all from the topside of the engine, but it might be easier to get underneath for some parts.
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Get a 1/2 breaker bar and at least 2 long extensions, 1/2 inch ratcheting wrench, make sure all the studs are back in the head before putting the header in and take your patient pills.
After you get them installed start the car and let it warm up and retighten the nuts before you even drop the car of the jackstands.
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My opinion is this

Go to your local Ford dealer and get a set of new genuine Ford Mustang gaskets to use. I have read many times on this and other forums that the gaskets supplied by BBK are crap and prone to leak.
First thing your gonna do is unhook the battery. UES- unhook the battery
My suggestion is to do one side at a time. Remove the stock header and replace it with the BBK. When finish you move on to the other side.
Like Siber Express already told you. "BE SURE ALL THE STUDS ARE IN THE BLOCK"
He has already installed headers on his car and it looks like the car came from the factory with them installed. I seen them and they looked and sounded great with his Borla tourings.

When I do decide to install headers I'm going to use these.


But like Siber express said, Start the car, Let it warm up and re tighten the nuts and if using these just don't put the clips on until very last step.


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I always like to encourage people to do their own work. It's a great experience and you will learn about your car.

Will you have help? For some one with little or no mechanical experience this could be a challenging project. You might want to find some one you help you out...do you even have all the tools you might need?
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My car is less than 20k miles. I heard that I might just be able to reuse my oem gaskets. How true is that?
Yea I will have someone to help me out. As well as the tool part. Just wanna have like a step by step instructions so nothing gets messed up haha


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Probably fine, but let me ask... how much is a new set of OEM gaskets?
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Probably fine, but let me ask... how much is a new set of OEM gaskets?

It's just about $7-$9 a piece. Look for this part number: BR3Z-9448-C
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It's just about $7-$9 a piece. Look for this part number: BR3Z-9448-C

That's what I figured. I'm not gonna spend 300-400 on headers and then balk at the extra 20 for new gaskets. Definitely a cheap insurance policy.
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That's what I figured. I'm not gonna spend 300-400 on headers and then balk at the extra 20 for new gaskets. Definitely a cheap insurance policy.

And if they fail, you are doing all the labor again.


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My car is less than 20k miles. I heard that I might just be able to reuse my oem gaskets. How true is that?
Yea I will have someone to help me out. As well as the tool part. Just wanna have like a step by step instructions so nothing gets messed up haha


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You should be fine with the stock gaskets. There will not be a step by step unfortunately. Just take your time and pay attention to what youre taking apart. Take pics if you have to.
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That's what I figured. I'm not gonna spend 300-400 on headers and then balk at the extra 20 for new gaskets. Definitely a cheap insurance policy.

IMO, this is the best gasket you can get. The cork gasket that comes with th shorties breaks easily which causes leaks. Especially if you are not able to tighten your install properly, the exhaust gasses will break it. I installed my shorties twice as the first one developed corrosion. For less than a year after I installed, the BBK gasket was broken in small pieces. In some areas it sticks at the heads and some at the shorties. This OEM gasket has better seal and will last longer. Only thing though, these are single use only as some protruding areas that makes the seal will more or less flat out during install. So not recommended for reuse.
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Thanks guys. Can I install it from the top? I read that If I take out the upper intake manifold it will be a lot easier


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You can get all but 1 bolt from the top, as for moving stuff out of the way, only thing I did was move the coolant line on the right side and used a small bungee to hold it out of the way.
Make sure you follow the instructions and get the nut on #3 (Back Cylinder right side) before tightening any of the rest of them up.
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You can get all but 1 bolt from the top, as for moving stuff out of the way, only thing I did was move the coolant line on the right side and used a small bungee to hold it out of the way.
Make sure you follow the instructions and get the nut on #3 (Back Cylinder right side) before tightening any of the rest of them up.
Ronnie, the 3.7 should have had these on it from the Factory
So you happy with yours too? Im on the fence with these. Im not really into too much of the performance side of modding but Im reading a lot of good things about these...
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Well if it actually give you some low end tq then why not right?



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You can get all but 1 bolt from the top, as for moving stuff out of the way, only thing I did was move the coolant line on the right side and used a small bungee to hold it out of the way.

Make sure you follow the instructions and get the nut on #3 (Back Cylinder right side) before tightening any of the rest of them up.

Ronnie, the 3.7 should have had these on it from the Factory


Hey if it comes with the factory where's our fun for doing it ourselves haha.
Are you referring to the instructions from BBK?
I would assume it will be at least a 4 hours job for an inexperienced individual?


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4 hours seems realistic, also give yourself plenty of time for the car to cool down if you move it at all or even turn it on, those headers stay hot for a long time.


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So you happy with yours too? Im on the fence with these. Im not really into too much of the performance side of modding but Im reading a lot of good things about these...
Very, the low to mid range bump in power was more than worth it. It is also right where the 3.7 needs it to boot.

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4 hours seems realistic, also give yourself plenty of time for the car to cool down if you move it at all or even turn it on, those headers stay hot for a long time.


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Is most of the install time based on how hard it is to get to some of the bolts and making sure everything is placed correctly? ie. being inexperienced = go really slowly to make sure you're connecting the dots?
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Very, the low to mid range bump in power was more than worth it. It is also right where the 3.7 needs it to boot.

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Does it lose power at the top tho?


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Is most of the install time based on how hard it is to get to some of the bolts and making sure everything is placed correctly? ie. being inexperienced = go really slowly to make sure you're connecting the dots?
I would say most of the install time comes from, getting the old headers off, putting the new ones on go much much faster.

and it doesn't lose top end power (which it doesnt really have anyways ) but it doesn't gain any either really, you would need long tube headers for top end power.
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I would say most of the install time comes from, getting the old headers off, putting the new ones on go much much faster.

and it doesn't lose top end power (which it doesnt really have anyways ) but it doesn't gain any either really, you would need long tube headers for top end power.

Based on what Ive seen, the opposite seems true here. It looks pretty easy to take the old ones off. The BBK has all the extra tubing in the way.
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Based on what Ive seen, the opposite seems true here. It looks pretty easy to take the old ones off. The BBK has all the extra tubing in the way.
+1, the old ones came off very easy. But even with a ratchet wrench, which helped immensely, its was still a long and tedious install.

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No loss on the top. In fact there is a small gain by the dyno's I have seen of them.
Removal is a whole bunch easier, after the mid pipe nuts were off it was less than 5 minutes with a ratchet.

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Maybe it's opposite for longtube headers, haha I had so much room with the longtube headers.
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No loss on the top. In fact there is a small gain by the dyno's I have seen of them.
Removal is a whole bunch easier, after the mid pipe nuts were off it was less than 5 minutes with a ratchet.

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Would you guys buy it from autoanything?


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Is there a video of your exhaust by any chance?
I'll post it up when I get home.

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BBK Short Tube Headers, FRPP Cut and Clamp X-Pipe Borla Touring A/B

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That sounds great!!
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I've installed mine 4 times, changing gaskets each time chasing a leak that ended up being a bad weld on the collector. I was able to get all bolts in the block from the top with a flex head ratcheting wrench, and a flare nut Wrench for the rear bottom passenger bolt. Removing the battery and battery tray (3 8mm bolts) GREATLY helps with access to the bolts. The harder bolts to get to are the collector bolts (the bottom two pretty much have to be removed from under the car), but a flex head socket Wrench with 15 and 17mm deep sockets also made that easy. The engine studs are 5mm btw. Bought a specialty set of tiny open/closed wrenches to get them tight. Good luck! Well worth it when they're on

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Waiting for it to be shipped.
I don't have box head wrench. I only have the ratchet. Would I be able to do it still? Thanks


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Ordered mine today in ceramic for 295.00 shipped from Auto Anything. Can't wait!!
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