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Old 11-20-2014, 09:29 PM   #1
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Decisions. Turbo the 2012 V6 or get a 5.0L?

This is for my friend. He has a 2012 v6 manual and cant upgrade to the 5.0 because of parents. Would the 5k difference in price be enough to buy a turbo and kill gt's and other moddified cars? Or would it just be better to get a 5.0 later?
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I would wait for a GT.
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I would personally wait for a GT mainly due to emissions. Probably won't pass with a turbo, but will pass with a GT.


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I would personally wait for a GT mainly due to emissions. Probably won't pass with a turbo, but will pass with a GT.


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Don't get me wrong , I love my Mustang. I just don't believe a v6 is a good platform for a high horse power vehicle. You can get some good Hp numbers from a v6 but if I was looking to build a bad *** car I would have started with a GT.
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This is for my friend. He has a 2012 v6 manual and cant upgrade to the 5.0 because of parents. Would the 5k difference in price be enough to buy a turbo and kill gt's and other moddified cars? Or would it just be better to get a 5.0 later?
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Don't get me wrong , I love my Mustang. I just don't believe a v6 is a good platform for a high horse power vehicle. You can get some good Hp numbers from a v6 but if I was looking to build a bad *** car I would have started with a GT.
I "spanked" a few stock GT's at the local weekend rally course i attended often with my suspension modified V6. It was a course rather than straight line, which I was having more fun with.

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The v6 is a stout motor, and i know i'm going to hurt some feelings when i say this, but i've put two procharged V6s in their place with an all motor 5.0 ... granted, i am significantly more modded than most at around 450 whp, but still.

Its possible the v6s could have added more boost, tweaked this, tweaked that, and gotten more power, FI is easy that way. I did the boosted 4 cylinder thing for a LONG time, and made tons of power, but it just gets to the point where the easier horsepower is ... well ... easier you know. V6 isnt a bad car, and punches above its weight for a v6, but i'd either leave it with bolt ons or stock, i wouldnt boost it.
There always comes a point where you sink tons of money into something, and realize one day you're just not happy with it any more. I had a 500 whp mazdaspeed3, built motor, big turbo, clutch, E85 ... i dont even want to think about what i spent on that car. I raced (totally not on the street of course) a Gen 5 camaro with H/C/I and we were door to door ... a damn basically bolt on camaro with a cam and we were door to door. Started parting out the next day, that was just the straw that broke the camels back (on top of some slight quirks from having modified literally EVERYTHING), and i went and got my 5.0 a month or so later.
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There is also the reliability factor. Adding boost to any n/a motor carries some form of reliability hazard. Not to say these motors can't take it, but the car itself is not built around FI. How long is he planning to keep the car? Does he have money if he breaks something? Does he have another car if his is down for a any period of time? Since his parents wouldn't opt for a 5.0, how are they going to handle him wanting to add FI? These are all things to consider.

To be honest, at that age, take what you can get and keep it reliable. When he can handle all the other costs on his own associated with heavy mods or a 5.0 then that would be the time to move up.
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If he wants a 5.0 now, he's going to want it in a couple years no matter what he does to the 6, at that point there is only money wasted on mods in the end when you trade up, so just keep it stock and be patient, the 6 is a fun car but once you lay down money for boost you hit the ceiling on power pretty quickly and find yourself wanting more.


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If he wants a 5.0 now, he's going to want it in a couple years no matter what he does to the 6, at that point there is only money wasted on mods in the end when you trade up, so just keep it stock and be patient, the 6 is a fun car but once you lay down money for boost you hit the ceiling on power pretty quickly and find yourself wanting more.


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He wants to go fast he doesnt care what the engine sounds like

That's a plus, all I'm stating is the 5.0 will go farther in reliable hp numbers, after a certain point, nothing is really proven on the 3.7 when it comes to hp. Depending on his goals, which you say is to have the fastest car, then a modded 5.0 will go farther in the end.


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I "spanked" a few stock GT's at the local weekend rally course i attended often with my suspension modified V6. It was a course rather than straight line, which I was having more fun with.

However, I did sell the Mustang, and am on the lookout for the Boss....pant, pant...
They just sold a 2012 Boss with 3,370 on the ODO for somewhere around $36k. I thought this seemed like a pretty good price. It was only on the lot for about a week and a half lol. They now have a black Boss LS for ~$53k. Would LOVE to buy that stang!
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Your friend should decide what he plans to do with his Mustang. If he likes modding, the sixxer guys around here can tell you there's a lot of fun to be had modding them. You can get them as fast as your willing to pay for. I wouldn't try to mod to beat one specific car, becuase there is always something faster out there. I'd find out what kind of HP/TQ and suspension he'd like to have and decide from there. Also, could be some used turbo/supercharger kits out there for the taking.
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Tell him to leave it alone and don't mod anything.

If he is wanting A GT in the future he should take the $$$$ and not waste it on mods. He needs to save up until he can get a GT if that's what he wants.
Why waste the money on his V6 ?
Maybe if he shows Mommy & Daddy he can pay the difference on another Mustang they will let him trade. Of course the insurance will increase a lot so he needs to get a job and pay the difference his V8 will cost his folks.
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If his parents won't allow a 5.0, I doubt they would allow making the 3.7 FI or maybe even not bolt on mods because of warranty issues. Just something for him to think about.

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If his parents won't allow a 5.0, I doubt they would allow making the 3.7 FI or maybe even not bolt on mods because of warranty issues. Just something for him to think about.

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The hp isnt the reason his parents arent helping him anymore. He showed his dad the same year and color gt and his dad said why do you want that? Its the same car.
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The hp isnt the reason his parents arent helping him anymore. He showed his dad the same year and color gt and his dad said why do you want that? Its the same car.
Ok. I see. Well, if his parents are that much in control of the car, then I still doubt they will let him significantly mod it and break warranty. But who knows, I don't know his parents. Anyway, I agree with most here that he may as well wait a couple years for what he really wants rather than sink money into something he won't keep for the long run.

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OP, tell your buddy to just go find a V6 SN95 and patiently play with that until he is old enough to buy what he really wants without mommy & daddy's permission. He'll appreciate the V8 a lot more that way. Plus he'll have saved some real money instead of wasting it on something he really doesn't want.
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^^ that's a good idea

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A kid that still needs his parents permission to do anything should just be damn happy, and more importantly grateful, that they let him have something as nice and as quick as a 300hp Mustang in the first place.
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Tell him to keep pressuring the parents.

Originally when I was going to get a Mustang my parents only wanted me to get a V6 (even though I was buying it). Eventually I was able to convince them and got a Bullitt. Worth it.


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They dont care about a warrenty and he might be selling it to get a 2005-2009 gt and have around 5k to play with
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A stock coyote is better than a 05-09 with money to play with.


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Is it really? Have to remember he's coming from a V6. But then again the 05-09 exterior and interior really isn't that great IMO. Guess it's preference.
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Is it really? Have to remember he's coming from a V6. But then again the 05-09 exterior and interior really isn't that great IMO. Guess it's preference.

The only thing he is requiring is that it has to be a 2005 and up(unless its a termi) you dont buy a mustang for the interior you buy it for the experience and he knows that. But anything he gets he will want to throw a turbo on it so if a car cant handle 600-750hp with a turbo and new internals and other supporting mods then he doesnt want that car
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Actually now a better question is should he keep the v6 and have $1,500 for mods or sell it for 17k and get a 05-09 gt for $12k and have $6,500 for mods?
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The only thing he is requiring is that it has to be a 2005 and up(unless its a termi) you dont buy a mustang for the interior you buy it for the experience and he knows that. But anything he gets he will want to throw a turbo on it so if a car cant handle 600-750hp with a turbo and new internals and other supporting mods then he doesnt want that car

That only leaves the 5.0, any other car besides the 5.0 or Termi will need forged internals and probably head work and cams.


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That only leaves the 5.0, any other car besides the 5.0 or Termi will need forged internals and probably head work and cams.


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You dont think a 4.6l or 3.7l could handle 600hp?
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What about a stage 2 roush 2007?
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What about a stage 2 roush 2007?
Just a body kit, and the cheaper suspension from them

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You dont think a 4.6l or 3.7l could handle 600hp?
4.6 would need forged internals for sure. 3.7 I've seen get there without forged internals.

I thought he didn't want a v6 though.


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