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Old 12-04-2014, 11:41 AM   #1
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Questions about powdercoating:

So i got my Girlfriend a set of GT brakes for Christmas, and I'd like to take it a step further and get them powder coated and was wondering if anyone has any experience in this area since i've never had anything powder coated before?

My main concerns are:
1. Do the pistons and seals need to be removed? Calipers do have a very high operating temperature, especially when on track, but the powder coating process is quite hot as well... Not that taking a caliper apart is a deal breaker, but since we live together "Hey ... don't come out into the garage for the next hour or two" is difficult to sell at times haha.

2. Does anyone track their car with powder coated calipers? Aggressive GTs with lots of Aero and tire have reported caliper temps north of 400*, and most powder will tend to break down ~380-400* ... That being said, my Girlfriend is not throwing her car around a track in any similar fashion, so I'm hoping we should be good in that department. I'll keep tabs on our next track day with these though and keep y'all posted:
Alcon, Caliper Temperature Strips, 250F-530F, 14 pack - Vorshlag LLC

Lastly, just a bit of opinion if yall dont mind. She has a '14 deep impact blue with Dark Metallic SVE Drifts... yellow calipers? Yes no?
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Her car, her style.

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As for the main question I have no clue xD So good luck!


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By any chance have you thought of painting the calipers? Cheaper option, easily be done at home. The video shows a few test, rock chip test as well as a heat test, claims the paint failed at 440 degrees I believe.

Powdercoating is very nice if sprayed and baked correctly, it can however be somewhat costly if you take it to a shop to get it done. Have you gotten quotes? Removal of the seals isn't required, but most shops will do it anyways as precaution. you can do it yourself and save some money
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Old 12-04-2014, 12:57 PM   #4
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Blue and yellow are complimentary on the color wheel i believe so it looks good. Another color i would consider, is orange. Opposites on the color wheel, complimentary, that blue will make that orange really pop out
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Cost is actually free, and powder coating looks exponentially better than paint, but thanks for the vid. I gave a friend some parts a while back that i had laying around, so he's paying me back by powder coating these for me, i just have to pay like $30 for the powder. The paint does seem to hold a bit more temperature though.
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I don't know about the powder coating but I think yellow or orange would look really nice


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I don't know about the powder coating but I think yellow or orange would look really nice


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Thanks. Since the calipers are the exact same between the GT and v6 (only the carrier is different for the larger rotor) i think i'll have her carriers done in black, and the calipers done in yellow. That way if she doesn't like the yellow, she can just swap to her V6 calipers, but still be able to use the larger GT carriers and rotors.
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Does she have the pony projection lights?


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She does not, why are you asking? Just curious.
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If you get the calipers painted a friend of mine found these tabs that change the color of the projection lights I thought it might be a nice accent and they are only like $6 dollars. Ive never used them but heres the link if anyone is interested:

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OH! That would be sharp as hell haha, thanks for the heads up, but sadly she does not. I've never looked at whether they can be added or not, but certainly something to keep in mind for the future.
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I vote for Orange!

I painted the calipers black on my truck. Was replacing them anyways at 100k miles and added some EBC Green Stuff pads. Have you considered just using caliper covers? You can get them without the cheesy "bolts" as well.

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Yeah, not a fan :/ but thanks for the heads up.
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Generally brakes like that are something you are going to want to have painted instead of powdercoated. Even if the car isn't tracked hard its still an iffy idea. Paint would be a better idea.
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Arent brembos powder coated?
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Roger does great work powder coating and can answer all your questions regarding your specific application. See https://www.facebook.com/PrecisionPo...r_rs&pnref=lhc

He lives in Maine, but does exceptional work. He's even figured out how to successfully powder coat plastic items.

Check out some of his work, the metallic flake is amazing.
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No experience with powder coating but I think the yellow looks good. Even better if you can add a touch of yellow here or there elsewhere on the car.

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Did some quick searching and a lot of track racers do not recommend powdercoating. They also say you would have to remove everything out of the caliper and flush them VERY well before coating. The brembo seem to have a "gel coating". Just FYI.

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Yea i just looked it up more. From the factory they are painted, but i was mistaken about the powder coating, it does work well. Could have sworn i heard other things about brakes getting too hot for the powder coating....... guess not.
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Ceramic coating is also available, which handles heat extremely well.
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Isn't a ceramic coating designed to keep heat in


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Did some quick searching and a lot of track racers do not recommend powdercoating. They also say you would have to remove everything out of the caliper and flush them VERY well before coating. The brembo seem to have a "gel coating". Just FYI.

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Yeah, i tore these calipers apart last night (removed lines, slides, bleeder valves...) and the guy i bought them from races as well ( he switched to brembos) and a lot of the seals are shot. I'll just go ahead and bake them with the pistons and seals on there, then scrap them and rebuild them with the pieces from her factory calipers. Normally, it would be recommended to do a full tear down though.


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Yea i just looked it up more. From the factory they are painted, but i was mistaken about the powder coating, it does work well. Could have sworn i heard other things about brakes getting too hot for the powder coating....... guess not.
Yeah, i'm hoping that based on what the hardcore track guys are recording vs how hard i know she drives that they'll survive quite well. Those strips should help prve my theory, but until then thats all it is lol, theory.

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Yes it is, it would be better suited for exhaust pieces / turbos.
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Calipers were dropped off today for powder coat. The set i bought came off a track car, so they're a little worse for wear anyways ... now i'm trying to find a rebuild kit with new pistons / seals / dust boots so i dont have to tear her factory ones up to rebuild them. I'll keep yall posted.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:43 PM   #24
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Picked them up from the powdercoater today. Order new boots and seals, so if those are here before Christmas, these will hopefully be on the car this weekend once rebuilt. Pretty excited with how they came out.
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Those look great im sure she's going to love them and if it's not too much trouble pics when they are on the car would be appreciated


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^^ Sure thing, i had planned on snagging a few for the guy that did the coating anyways.
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Looks great volt!
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Well, got everything on this weekend, and what a miserable pain it was haha! The Calipers had to be fully broken down to powder coat, and since the set i had bought had been raced the pistons / boots and seals were all in pretty rough shape. I called everywhere to try to order new pistons / boots / seals, but i could only ever find boots and seals ... this meant i had to rebuild these calipers with her current pistons (not a big deal at ~6k miles).

So, for some reason i thought brake lines had a check valve in them, and i could just pop the caliper off, a little brake fluid would drain out, and i could take my time rebuilding the calipers ... not so. It doesn't stop. For this reason i wasn't really able to get the pictures and make the "How-to" Like i had wanted. I Basically had Valerie and my little sister trying to control the bleeding while i was performing surgery on these calipers ... a very stressful 45 minutes or so haha but luckily we got it all taken care of and had enough fresh brake fluid to make up for what we had lost / bleed the new system.

Here they are, so far so good, although they really haven't seen much drive time since the weather here has been awful.
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Looks great! Reminds me of the Blue Angels!


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That looks sick! How much did the powder coating run you? I have a set of GT brakes waiting to go in

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