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Old 12-13-2014, 12:09 PM   #1
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Got an Ebay 3.7 CAI, and looks like well made

Very impress with this Ebay 95$ at my door CAI. Overall not cheap looking , the couplings are not silicone but the rubber looks strong and up to the task. It even comes with an inlet restrictor like the high$ name brands CAI, the filter looks well made with a big mouth and the metal box is not flimsy.>>Click image for larger version

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I know I asked this before, but how come I only see one nipple for connecting the vacuum lines like for a stick? Is the second one just harder to see from the pictures?


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Old 12-13-2014, 12:19 PM   #3
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I know I asked this before, but how come I only see one nipple for connecting the vacuum lines like for a stick? Is the second one just harder to see from the pictures?


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Look at the 2od pic and you will see the tube for the Auto with a cap
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Look at the 2od pic and you will see the tube for the Auto with a cap

Ok. Way over there...


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Isn't your pipe connected to your filter backwards? The opening for the sensor should be down by the filter, no?

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Isn't your pipe connected to your filter is backwards? The opening for the sensor should be down by the filter.

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In that position the restrictor inlet will block the the sensor opening and routing will be wrong.
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Well....good luck.

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Here is OEM. It is well before the vacuum lines. Not sure if that is going to make a difference.

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Well....good luck.

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I will installed it next week , doing a family visit in GA this coming weekend and that way will avoid any issues away from home. Will post results on install later
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In that position the restrictor inlet will block the the sensor opening and routing will be wrong.
OK..... Its been a while since I installed mine but I thought I remembered the wire being pretty short for the maf sensor. Keep us posted on the results!

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Here is OEM. It is well before the vacuum lines. Not sure if that is going to make a difference.

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A have manual trans , but I see no issues with the vaccum line position
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I did reverse the sensor position next to the box and it does fit and the inlet restrictor type tube is not blocking the sensor , will see after the actaul isntall and see how the routing configuration works out . Any here with info will be welcome.
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Thumbs. When is the install?

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I have the same exact intake installed. I installed yesterday. Click image for larger version

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I have the same exact intake installed. I installed yesterday. Attachment 171773Attachment 171774


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Any issues, did you use the black inner tube/that kooks like an inlet restrictor around the sensor in the install. Did you retain the factory box snorkel
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Half the snorkel had to come off or else the heat shield will not fit. The other half I left so I do like it. I did have several problems but it seems like it never goes as expected when installing things. I also still need to do some work on it because I rushed the install due to it getting dark and not having any tools besides a wrench and screw driver. You probably want to use a socket wrench to get the stock box out which i did not have so I literally ripped it out.


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Old 12-13-2014, 09:57 PM   #18
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I think that the sensor should be closer to the box mimicking the factory set up.
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"Cheap" ones can be good! I've had good luck with cheap CAI on other cars.
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This was the only way I could install it but let me know how you do yours when you do


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Can you measure the height and Bases of the air filter for me? Want to do some CFM calculations on that thing, just cant help but feel that filter is on the small side.
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Can you measure the height and Bases of the air filter for me? Want to do some CFM calculations on that thing, just cant help but feel that filter is on the small side.

Here's the link. They have pictures with dimensions.

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Here's the link. They have pictures with dimensions.

Fits 2011 2014 Ford Mustang 3 7L V6 Heat Shield Cold Air Intake w Red Filter | eBay


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Work blocks eaby lol... mind throwing them up for me? Thanks.
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Now why couldn't i find this just last month?! This is what I ended up getting.
BCP Blue 11 13 Mustang V6 3 7L Cold Air Intake Induction Kit Filter | eBay
Worked just fine and i even had a couple extra pieces of piping shipped to me. When i tried to send them back they just told me to keep them so I now have 3 intakes...just no extra filters or couplings. I also did a Datalog with BAMA my last revision was ridiculous! Car responds better than ever before....anyway....Ive been looking for a heat shield for mine as the idle temp tends to rise to about 110*-112* and this was 3 weeks ago when it was 55* outside.
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Work blocks eaby lol... mind throwing them up for me? Thanks.

5" at the top, 6" at the bottom, 5.6" high. However, someone who bought one of these should probably measure the element itself, because it looks like from the picture that the 6" is possibly the hole on the bottom and not the actual element itself.


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So lets say the Ebay filter is 5 x 5 x 5.6, That comes out to 527 CFM of flow through that filter.

I called Air Raid and got the specs on the 3.7L filter as 6" Base x 7" height x 4.4" base. This works out to 685.776 CFM.

Now, that may be a completely useless calculation, but the air raid does seem to flow a bit better than the ebay one. Granted that does not mean the Ebay one doesnt, or cant, flow enough for the engine; the Air raid could be overkill. It just means it doesn't flow as much as the air raid, take that for what it's worth.


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So lets say the Ebay filter is 5 x 5 x 5.6, That comes out to 527 CFM of flow through that filter.

I called Air Raid and got the specs on the 3.7L filter as 6" Base x 7" height x 4.4" base. This works out to 685.776 CFM.

Now, that may be a completely useless calculation, but the air raid does seem to flow a bit better than the ebay one. Granted that does not mean the Ebay one doesnt, or cant, flow enough for the engine; the Air raid could be overkill. It just means it doesn't flow as much as the air raid, take that for what it's worth.


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Very true, but its usually more a factor of the intakes design itself...a different filter can always be used, but the internal diameter of the intake and the amount of bends/ material it is made out of I feel make a bigger difference. Look at the STEEDA CAI vs AIRAID...its not the filter that changes it so much as its the overall size and material.
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You're absolutely right. However, a system only flows as well as its most restrictive piece. Even if the intake itself is well designed, the filter is (could be*) holding it back at that point and it would make no difference. Someone did some excellent CFM calculations on this forum for the 3.7 engine a while back, i'll see if i can dig them up.

It really doesnt matter much in the grand scheme of things, but its kind of fun to see, and i'm bored at work haha.

Also, anyone with the (or any i guess) Ebay intake, can you post a datalog for me? I'd like to check the stability of the MAF voltage against another "name brand" intake. That could be kind of neat to see as well.
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If you still have mine in your email you will see....Ive been using it on a BAMA 93 R tune...Ill see if I can dig it up though...maybe resend it..
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If you still have mine in your email you will see....Ive been using it on a BAMA 93 R tune...Ill see if I can dig it up though...maybe resend it..

Oh, i didnt realize you had it on with those logs. If you have a more recent one send me that, otherwise i'll go look for that one this evening and compare it to my GFs air raid.
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That was while i was data loging. so the one you have is the most "raw"
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Volt. Any chance you found the datalog?
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Whoops, complete derp on my part. We're actually going to be doing some logging with MPT here shortly working on an E85 tune, so i'll have a fresh set of logs here within the next few weeks to use for comparison.
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Oh damn, that would be nice to get an e85 tune. Keep me posted
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"a system only flows as well as its most restrictive piece."

Not entirely true. The final flow is affected by the total pressure loss, which includes everything in its path. i.e. the flow through the filter itself is affected by differential pressure, which is affected by the total pressure losses. Granted the tube itself may not amount to a heck of a lot.
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