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Old 02-02-2015, 01:03 PM   #1
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Put the SWARR BAR on today and "WOW"

I went to Brothers and had my Swarr Barr installed. I took the nice curvy Pioneer trail home and gave it a very good test. I can say that this is a pretty good item because it sure improves the rear end stability of the stock suspension V6 2012 Mustang. The oversteer is all gone and the car feels great in the curves.

When I first got it and seen the installation on paper I just could not figure if it actually did anything at all. After Dave installed it and we seen how it actually stiffens up the whole rear end assembly and fits perfect made me a happy guy.
This is a powder coated high quality item and comes totally complete with everything you need to install it.

The car drives normal and this works when going around a nice curve. I'm happy with it.
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If you love that you should feel how a Torque Arm would have affected it. Plants it to the ground.


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Man I miss Brothers. They used to be within minutes of me and I loved that store....lucky.
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If you love that you should feel how a Torque Arm would have affected it. Plants it to the ground.


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I think lowering springs are next

There was another Mustang there that had lowering springs installed. I think I need them. Not for handling but for looks.
I sure wish I could just hit that "LOTTO"
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Nice! What's the occasion Ronnie? Seems like you are putting a lot of new mods in your stang recently


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American muscle claims faster launches and lower 60' times. did you notice any difference with hard launches?
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I went to Brothers and had my Swarr Barr installed. I took the nice curvy Pioneer trail home and gave it a very good test. I can say that this is a pretty good item because it sure improves the rear end stability of the stock suspension V6 2012 Mustang. The oversteer is all gone and the car feels great in the curves.

When I first got it and seen the installation on paper I just could not figure if it actually did anything at all. After Dave installed it and we seen how it actually stiffens up the whole rear end assembly and fits perfect made me a happy guy.
This is a powder coated high quality item and comes totally complete with everything you need to install it.

The car drives normal and this works when going around a nice curve. I'm happy with it.
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I think I'm kind of lucky to have a first class speed shop about 25 Min. from my house.


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Ronnie, I live within a mile of brothers. Where is the "pioneer trail"? I'd love to find a nice curvy road here in volusia county.


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....found it. It's where I thought of when I first read your post. That is a fun road.


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I've got the SWARR Bar on my '04 GT and love it!..


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If you love that you should feel how a Torque Arm would have affected it. Plants it to the ground.


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May be true, but for me the Bang For Your Buck ($100 for mine), and ease of installation (took about 20 min for me) just couldn't be beat!..


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I had no problem with wheel hop

With the 2,73 rear gear I really have no problem with wheel hop. I'm Positive it has to help if you have lower ratio gears and a stick.
What I did not like was with the stock suspension the rear was not feeling stable when cornering at higher speeds. The Swarr Bar works really great for higher speed cornering. That is just what I was looking for.

I test drove a 2015 GT and loved it. Then I got into my 2012 V6 for the drive home and also loved it just as much or maybe a little more.
I decided $15,000 to trade or spend $1,500 to improve my V6 a little more. DUH ! It was decided to get the Aluminum driveshaft, Put on the Swarr Bar, Get some lowering springs and Panhard bar. and keep the car and engine I like way toooo much.

Now my car feels brand new to me again and I'll be keeping it for a long,long time.


I love the looks of my Mustang and it is nice when I come out of a store and there are people admiring it. I still have to go out just to look at it in the garage when I walk by. My Red Ryder has won two peoples choice awards along with a $100.00 cash award and trophy's in a few shows.

I can't think of one single reason not to keep this Mustang.((( BESIDES-MY MUSTANG HAS ROUND HEADLIGHTS))) which I like a lot.
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I thought stiffer rear sway bars help front end traction in turns and decrease rear traction creating oversteer. I am I wrong?


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A swarr bar is not a sway bar

All I know is that when going around a sweeping curve ,It always felt like my rear was going to break loose at any time before the swarr bar. It did keep me a little nervous.

With the Swarr bar , My car seems more planted in the rear and more controllable and stable. I do believe I could probably control the car using the throttle now.

Anyway, You are 100% correct. That is why some racers take off the sway bar in the rear.

It looks like all the Swarr bar does is stiffen up the rear axle on our 2014 and earlier Mustangs. It eliminates any and all play. It seems to work very good on my stock suspension 3.7 V6 with P-Zero tires.

I.m sure that others that are on the forum will give their impression after insralling one on their Mustangs.
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Ron, looks great the last thing you need imo is new wheels.. Maybe like some rtr 19s staggered


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BMR has a new Watts Link similar looking.
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I just added the front and back sway bar with adjustable sway bar limks at first i didnt notice any difference then i started hearing a clunk well i decided to look under the and 3 of the bolts where lose i guess thats what happens wjen you let ypur buddy help i took them all off and add thread lock and boy it made a difference i can feel the tightness on the stee2 wheel i even woke up early to go to work just so i can drive it lol

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All I know is that when going around a sweeping curve ,It always felt like my rear was going to break loose at any time before the swarr bar. It did keep me a little nervous.

With the Swarr bar , My car seems more planted in the rear and more controllable and stable. I do believe I could probably control the car using the throttle now.

Anyway, You are 100% correct. That is why some racers take off the sway bar in the rear.

It looks like all the Swarr bar does is stiffen up the rear axle on our 2014 and earlier Mustangs. It eliminates any and all play. It seems to work very good on my stock suspension 3.7 V6 with P-Zero tires.

I.m sure that others that are on the forum will give their impression after insralling one on their Mustangs.
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Is a a swarr bar a sway bar? Or is it something different?


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It bolts directly to the rear axle tube, making stronger, and not flex under hard cornering!..


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so w/o insulting (or at least not intending) how much flex is in a solid axle?
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Well the swarr bar is generally used to prevents the axle tubes spinning on hard launches. I haven't seen someone use it for cornering until now.


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What's the difference between the swar bar and a panhard bar ?

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The panhard bar is a lateral location edvice to keep the axle centered (not very well) under the back end of the car.

The Swarr Bar reinforces the axle tubes to minimize deflection under loading. Applying throttle, braking, or hard cornering inputs will cause the tubes to bend within their elastic limit (usually), which can cause unusual alignment issues for brief periods of time, which can briefly increase or decrease the grip that one of the tires is providing.
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Interesting, BMR's new watts link does that too.
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Interesting, BMR's new watts link does that too.

A watts link does the same job as a Panhard bar, just more effectively.


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The panhard bar is a lateral location edvice to keep the axle centered (not very well) under the back end of the car.

The Swarr Bar reinforces the axle tubes to minimize deflection under loading. Applying throttle, braking, or hard cornering inputs will cause the tubes to bend within their elastic limit (usually), which can cause unusual alignment issues for brief periods of time, which can briefly increase or decrease the grip that one of the tires is providing.
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When I had my 2011 V6, I was picking up and installing take off Boss 302 suspension parts and installing them. They too woke up the handling of our V6's, and I got the parts for cheap. Consider those when you are on the hunt for improved suspension. They bolt right up.
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