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Old 02-17-2015, 08:36 PM   #1
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Tuning Does it void your warranty

The dealer said " anything that affected the problem thats aftermarket voids you warranty " some one shed some light on this and warranty wars because i want too trade in my 3.7 sooner or later


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The dealer said " anything that affected the problem thats aftermarket voids you warranty " some one shed some light on this and warranty wars because i want too trade in my 3.7 sooner or later


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They would have to figure out that the tune did in fact lead or contribute to whatever problem happened

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You would have to prove that the tune didn't cause the issue if one arises. Being that it affects your entire ECU it pretty much means anything that goes wrong with the engine you are SOL.
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You would have to prove that the tune didn't cause the issue if one arises. Being that it affects your entire ECU it pretty much means anything that goes wrong with the engine you are SOL.
Exactly. The dealer can pretty much connect it to any problem if they try hard enough

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If you tune your car and the tranny blows up they'll fix it. If you tune it and start having engine problems, now you will run into issues.
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I believe by the time people tune their car, the car is either out of warranty by then, or the owner doesn't care if anything goes wrong because they can either afford the repairs, or they know someone.

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If you tune your car and the tranny blows up they'll fix it. If you tune it and start having engine problems, now you will run into issues.
I don't think it is that cut and dry. They could argue that different shift points and added power led to the transmission failure

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I believe by the time people tune their car, the car is either out of warranty by then, or the owner doesn't care if anything goes wrong because they can either afford the repairs, or they know someone.

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Mine is more like... "Well, **** it. Let us hope nothing goes wrong!" with none of the above quote applying lol.
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I don't think it is that cut and dry. They could argue that different shift points and added power led to the transmission failure

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Well yes that's true too. Bottom line is that if you're worried about your warranty, don't tune it.
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Well yes that's true too. Bottom line is that if you're worried about your warranty, don't tune it.
This is the absolute bottom line. Op should heed these words.

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Hmmm ill save up a lil more then cuz i wanted too tune an throw on 3.73's but thanx guys


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Sit and talk to your dealer on where they stand on tuning.

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It's so very dealer specific. My dealer will sell, install and even cover aftermarket parts under the ford warranty. Generally these are Roush and ford racing parts. If Roush or FRPP offers a tune they will do it, I believe the ST and F150 both have tunes you can get from Roush. But they specifically told me, any tunes like Bama would not be covered. This is just my dealer, some dealers won't even go this far, some dealers could care less and may even help you get warranty work even though you've explicitly voided any warranty you might have.
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Hmmm ill save up a lil more then cuz i wanted too tune an throw on 3.73's but thanx guys


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I believe that Bama stated that if something where to go wrong for whatever reason and it was their fault, then they will cover the repairs.

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It's so very dealer specific. My dealer will sell, install and even cover aftermarket parts under the ford warranty. Generally these are Roush and ford racing parts. If Roush or FRPP offers a tune they will do it, I believe the ST and F150 both have tunes you can get from Roush. But they specifically told me, any tunes like Bama would not be covered. This is just my dealer, some dealers won't even go this far, some dealers could care less and may even help you get warranty work even though you've explicitly voided any warranty you might have.
We always recommend that you work with a local Service Manager to determine what they find to be acceptable or not acceptable on your car. If you call around and talk to different dealers, as you mentioned above, you'll get different answers. As long as you're open and honest with them, you'll probably find a dealer that will work with you. It's just important to note that they are only going to be responsible (per the Magnuson Moss warranty act) to cover things that are not directly linked to performance mods. For example, if you head to the dealer and you have a TSB - your mods shouldn't affect that. If you have some crazy interior rattle, your mods shouldn't affect that either.

I agree with everything you're saying - any aftermarket tune will cause issues if you're expecting Ford to cover a wear-item or something that could be linked to aftermarket performance parts. However, many of Bama's customers have had 100k+ miles on their custom tunes and warranty work performed without any issues or mentions of their performance mods and tuning.

It's a grey area.

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I believe that Bama stated that if something where to go wrong for whatever reason and it was their fault, then they will cover the repairs.
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I stand behind Bama's tuning abilities and so do they. In the event that one of our customers running a Bama tune were to have any trouble, I'm only a PM away. Bama does have a warranty for Cylinder #8 issues that seemed to only affect early 5.0L Coyotes with aftermarket tunes. This also was reported on a few stock Mustangs. However, other than that there are very few issues with tens of thousands of people running Bama tunes on their warrantied vehicle. I would also cite the Magnuson Moss warranty act that helps protect consumers who have issues that are not caused by aftermarket mods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuso...s_Warranty_Act

All of that being said, a good custom tune from the team over at Bama will utilize all of the factory logic so that your vehicle will pull timing, add fuel, close throttle, etc. in the event that it needs to. Bama's tunes will find power that is left on the table, but will not turn off necessary parameters for safety. Even on their V2 Race Tunes which they purpose-built for the track (or for the insanely spirited driver), the factory fail-safes all remain. You'll be in good hands!

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So what performance mods are generally "safe" with keeping a warranty intact?


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No easy way to answer this. This is subjective to how your local dealer feels about mods. Here is my local dealer on cold air intakes:
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Subjective is the best word to describe dealers. Ive said this before, but even putting 20's on your car could void some of the warranty. If they can prove the added weight of the wheel/tire caused damage to a particular part of the car, they will not cover it. My service adviser told me about this. Like he said, it would almost never happen, but it could and it is a possibility.
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Best to ask your local ford dealer. That is the most clear way of figuring this out.
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+1 on having a relationship with your dealer...that being said if they tell you they are ok with tunes I'll bet a beverage they won't put it in writing. Be honest with them and see what they say. My dealer is ok with what I call non-performance bits (axle backs/intakes) but I wouldn't expect them to cover engine work if it was tuned but I never asked them that.
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Your right they won't, I tried lol

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I had a shop add window tint and a 2 way remote start to my Mustang, but now I'm getting the performance itch. I take my warranty seriously, though, and really don't want to mess it up.

Maybe I'll just wait until I hit 100k miles and the warranty is up. Then I'll go mod crazy.


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I put a FRPP blower on mine myself and local dealer covered random misfire/bad cats under warranty. So it depends! Supposedly the dealer can now tell if software has been loaded, even if you return to stock. FRPP tune good and warranty good, but doesn't support other changes like aftermarket tunes do.
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