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Old 04-25-2015, 04:29 PM   #1
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Project Fog light

Slowly gathering parts for a fog light install on my 2012 PP. This is what I have so far and I plan to install LED bulbs and halos in the housings. I currently have invested about $104 in this setup. I should be able to find the halos and bulbs for fairly decent prices on ebay. My goal is to invest less than $200 and have the exact setup I want.



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Aren't you forgetting the harness for the fog lights to make that switch work 😁


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Aren't you forgetting the harness for the fog lights to make that switch work 😁


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Nope. I have tons of wire, relays, connectors, etc. I'll be running my own wiring and saving the $180 for the harness.

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Nope. I have tons of wire, relays, connectors, etc. I'll be running my own wiring and saving the $180 for the harness.

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Ahhh smart man keep us updated on the install. I would like to know how you would do this since I actually bought the $180 harness lol


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Old 04-25-2015, 06:10 PM   #5
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I see that light knob has the auto option. Do you have the daylight sensor for that?

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I see that light knob has the auto option. Do you have the daylight sensor for that?

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All Mustangs have the auto sensor based on what I've read. It's the same sensor that turns on the dash lights. So, all you need is the switch and bam... auto headlights!

Btw, everything is brand new. No used parts here.

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All Mustangs have the auto sensor based on what I've read. It's the same sensor that turns on the dash lights. So, all you need is the switch and bam... auto headlights!

Btw, everything is brand new. No used parts here.

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Ponie is right every mustang after I believe 2010 has that(someone can correct me if I'm wrong). It's in the middle of the dash by the front windshield.


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Gotcha. Was just curious because mine had it but my 2014 f150 even with the tech package didnt have the light sensor. So i couldnt do the auto headlight knob switch out.

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The light sensor is the clear(ish) pyramid looking thing at the front center of the dash?

Nvm. Just read the above post.

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The light sensor is the clear(ish) pyramid looking thing at the front center of the dash?

Nvm. Just read the above post.

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Yes it is that pyramid looking thing lol. This information is coming from my ford service rep so I would believe it was true but you never know these days


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This is the description of the switch from the Starkey website.

" Factory Ford Headlight switch with fog lamps position. Also includes auto headlamps position. This switch will fit all 2010-2014 Mustangs. Great if you are adding fog lights to your 10-14 Mustang and need a switch to control the fog lights. Also a great option if you dont want to purchase fog lights, but want the auto headlamps feature (automatically enabled with the switch).

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Yes my headlights are auto with that black pyramid on the dash. I love it. Never have to touch that knob anymore.


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Installed the switch this morning so I can test out the auto headlight feature later on. Install was a breeze. Now I can't wait to get the fogs installed.



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So, after several attempts to heat the fog light housings in order to remove the lens, I don't think it's gonna happen. The lenses seem brittle and there is a ton of sealant in there. I tried 225° for 10 minutes three different times. Maybe the temp needs to be higher or they need to be in there longer. Any suggestions?

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i always wondered why they didnt add auto headlights because i noticed my dash was light sensing
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Gotta bake em in the oven ponie, same deal as the Oracle install with your head lights

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Gotta bake em in the oven ponie, same deal as the Oracle install with your head lights

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That's what I did. 225° for 10 minutes. That amount of time appears to be the standard as far as headlights go. Not sure about these fogs, but it looks like there's a ton of sealant in them.

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Maybe go up to 300? Or try chiseling away some of it right after with a plastic dremel or something? That's weird, must be a ton of sealant lol. For some reason I thought you had said you used a heat gun Lmao , which confused the heck out of me and is why I said oven

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Maybe go up to 300? Or try chiseling away some of it right after with a plastic dremel or something? That's weird, must be a ton of sealant lol. For some reason I thought you had said you used a heat gun Lmao , which confused the heck out of me and is why I said oven

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Imo the fog lights appear to be a lesser quality plastic than the headlights. The sealant did get a little flexible and I tried to carefully use a screw driver to pry it away but the lense wanted to chip. I'm going to run these as is for now with LEDs and get some halo fogs later on.

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Update: got my fog lights installed today. I tinted them with precut tint from subject9 on ebay. Overall, they look awesome. I'll post a couple pics of before and after, then add some more tomorrow and a few details of the install.

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Nice man, I dig the LED strips too
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Nice man, I dig the LED strips too
Thanks! I was getting a little tired of the strips. They needed replacement and I just wanted a different look. I'm going to add an eagle eye LED to each side if it seems like it will look ok. Waiting on those to come in.

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Looks good got any pictures of how you built the wiring harness?


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I haven't wired it how I want it yet. They turn on with the parking lights. I didn't have time yesterday to wire it correctly. I still need to find out which wire is which at the switch and why I've seen fuse 39 tapped into in some videos and write ups. Wish I could get ahold of the Starkey instructions but I'll probably have to figure it out on my own.

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As promised, here are more pics of the install. I had to figure out mounting screws. I called Starkey and they told me they use #8 screws that thread themselves into the plastic. I didn't like that idea, so I used screws and nuts so I know they won't back out.

One light tinted comparing it to how they come. Tinting was a pita but I got it done using heat from a hair dryer.


How I used the screws and nuts to mount them.



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Oh and there are tabs molded into the bumper that these lights slide onto. The tabs on my lights didn't want to slide on, so I try to pry them open a bit more and most broke off. No biggie, I just centered the light and tightened the screws. Just an fyi for anyone before they do this.
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Got everything wired up today. Finally figured out how Starkey sets up their harness. Called AM about the Raxiom harness and Starkey about theirs, but got nowhere. They say their setup is proprietary and they're not sharing. So, with some pictures off the net and some factory wiring diagrams, I got it figured out and everything works great! Here are a few pics and if anyone has any questions about how to do it, let me know.













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Got the rest of the relays installed and wired up to actuate.


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^you gonna hide that stuff?
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^you gonna hide that stuff?
No, that will remain visible. I wanted a central location and easy access, so I mounted everything where you see it. All the other wiring is under the radiator cover.

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No, that will remain visible. I wanted a central location and easy access, so I mounted everything where you see it. All the other wiring is under the radiator cover.

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Your work is clean and you did a great job. I think you should try to hide that though. Why not put it under the rad cover or something close by?
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Your work is clean and you did a great job. I think you should try to hide that though. Why not put it under the rad cover or something close by?
Have you seen under the radiator cover on these cars? There's very little room and mine is already taken up with wiring. I'm not even done yet, so there's more that will need to go there.

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Have you seen under the radiator cover on these cars? There's very little room and mine is already taken up with wiring. I'm not even done yet, so there's more that will need to go there.

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I have. I've had my bumper off about 5 times. There is plenty of room in different places. I wasn't trying to dog on you. Just wondered why you would want to see that when you pop the hood.
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I have. I've had my bumper off about 5 times. There is plenty of room in different places. I wasn't trying to dog on you. Just wondered why you would want to see that when you pop the hood.
Main reason is accessibility. If I pop a fuse or burn up a relay, I can get right to them. I don't wanna tear half the car apart to get to a blown fuse. Besides, I don't show my car. The hood stays down unless I'm working on it.

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