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Old 05-06-2015, 02:56 PM   #1
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Decision for mods

I have done bbk shorty, mgw, tune, about to put in bmr lca and now I'm looking for either getting 3.55,
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They all cost quite a lot so i am not planning to do it all at once, so what do you guys think? which one should i go for first? thanks
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Might as well do the gears first and get it out of the way.
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Revising my post. You will get a lot of opinions on this as it is an open question. Socal said gears. I would say suspension. It is really up to you. Ask yourself, do you want to handle better right away or have more torque off the line? The wheels will be for show mostly unless you are finding yourself spinning a lot. Then maybe wider tires might benefit a tad.
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Revising my post. You will get a lot of opinions on this as it is an open question. Socal said gears. I would say suspension. It is really up to you. Ask yourself, do you want to handle better right away or have more torque off the line? The wheels will be for show mostly unless you are finding yourself spinning a lot. Then maybe wider tires might benefit a tad.
I think suspension is a great plan, just not to start. For me suspension has always been the icing on the cake. Ill do tires, wheels, some appearance mods, some performance mods and then its suspension. Ive never really gone " crazy " with suspension mods. I don't feel I ever really used my car in a way where I needed to go nuts. Springs, shocks/struts and sway bars have usually been the extent of my suspension mods.

That's the great thing about having a Mustang as a platform to build on...skies the limit!! We will all have different ideas on what we like and what we don't. Figure out where you are and where you want to be. Have fun with it and be different!!
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I think suspension is a great plan, just not to start. For me suspension has always been the icing on the cake. Ill do tires, wheels, some appearance mods, some performance mods and then its suspension. Ive never really gone " crazy " with suspension mods. I don't feel I ever really used my car in a way where I needed to go nuts. Springs, shocks/struts and sway bars have usually been the extent of my suspension mods.

That's the great thing about having a Mustang as a platform to build on...skies the limit!! We will all have different ideas on what we like and what we don't. Figure out where you are and where you want to be. Have fun with it and be different!!

LOL yea. When I bought my Mustang, the dealer called it "The Lego Car".
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LOL yea. When I bought my Mustang, the dealer called it "The Lego Car".
Never heard that one before.

My wife asked me the other day if Ill ever be done, I told her no way theres still too much to do. There is always something cool we can do to our Mustangs.
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Me personally I would do gears after lowering the car. Anytime you raise or lower a car or truck the rear end should be inspected and if need be shimmed. Most common in lifting applications so I would do some research on it first.


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It's hard for me to get grip when I launch. The best 0-60 I do is 5.7 with spinning and hopping. Launched at 3k btw


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Well, the suspension will help you keep your power planted and you might get a better time on your 0-60.

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If you spin a lot, shorter gears right now will only make it worse.

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Yeah I know that the shorter gear is definitely gonna make it worse. Im about to put in a lca to see if it will help a bit with the hop.


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Old 05-06-2015, 06:36 PM   #11
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That might help a little. Maybe do what im gonna do for suspension. Lower it 1 inch, better shocks and struts, add an adjustable panhard bar, and lca relocation brackets. I am going Eibach pro kit.

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Old 05-06-2015, 06:41 PM   #12
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I'll probably end up spending 900-1000 on parts.

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Old 05-06-2015, 06:58 PM   #13
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Yeah imma do almost the same but with sportline instead of pro

Looking for a bigger drop haha
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XD dont get the lca brackets. Just roll around with sideways wheels like the civics and integras. Lol

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Lol imma hop so badly without them
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Heck yea. Full on grasshopper at the track. Hop your way into the 16s for 1/4 mile!!!!

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A UCA is going to help most of the hop. I would look into an adjustable one of those. You'll need one if you ever do a one piece driveshaft


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I did a 1 piece driveshaft and haven't had any issues besides the occasional clunk when changing the Auto gears.

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I did a 1 piece driveshaft and haven't had any issues besides the occasional clunk when changing the Auto gears.

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Which is normal according to American muscle when I talked to them about. But I will be installing an adjustable upper control arm tomorrow to see if it helps any with the clunk.


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So if I lower my car in the fall, i will NEED UCAs also?

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So if I lower my car in the fall, i will NEED UCAs also?

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It's good to have it but I've been running the stock upper control arm plus an aluminum driveshaft for a couple months now with no issues but my wheel hop was kind of crazy so hopefully this and my lower control arms with relocation brackets solve that issue. I'll keep you posted on this tomorrow when I finish the install 👍🏽


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Not so much familiar with suspension stuff. So with the uca, is it just a normal uca or do you need any brackets or anything?

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Not so much familiar with suspension stuff. So with the uca, is it just a normal uca or do you need any brackets or anything?

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I purchased an adjustable upper control arm so I could adjust my pinion angle with my aluminum driveshaft. Also I purchased the bracket so I wouldn't have to change it down the road because if you doing it once you might as well do it all at the same time you know.


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Pinion angle? Care to offer any more info on this and what it may impact?

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Pinion angle? Care to offer any more info on this and what it may impact?

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I made a thread named "Adjustable upper control arm needed" which you can read up on and it has a video which au01st posted on it which is really good


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Very interesting. Stinks that more parts are going to be needed Seems this suspension journey is costing more and more. Springs, Shocks, Struts, Panhard bar, Lower control arm brackets, and now upper control arms. All for just a 1 inch drop :/
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And whats worse is i cant find a kit that just includes everything. Im afraid of buying a bad quality item or the wrong thing. :/

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Haha you buy one mod you have to get like 5 things for it function correctly but I guess you gotta pay to play man. I waited on control arms for a couple months tho and didn't have any problems if you'd like wait on it plus I had a 1.5in drop all around. But if I could do all over again I would do it all at once so I don't have to keep adding things later on.


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Very interesting. Stinks that more parts are going to be needed Seems this suspension journey is costing more and more. Springs, Shocks, Struts, Panhard bar, Lower control arm brackets, and now upper control arms. All for just a 1 inch drop :/
Don't get carried away with this stuff. Unless you're tracking your car some of this is overkill. Yeah stock might not be the best solution and yes tires might wear a little quicker but don't feel like you have to do it all at once. I have a the Pro kit,stock shocks, stock pan hard and stock everything else,my car drives great. It handles well for a DD. I've been dropped and having been driving it like this for about a year. I'll never do a full blown suspension, don't need it.
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Socal, do you have the 1 piece driveshaft? I wonder why that would play a factor but not the stock one.

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Socal, do you have the 1 piece driveshaft? I wonder why that would play a factor but not the stock one.

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No I still have the stock. Ever since I did my gears I do notice a little more vibration, especially when my had is on the gear shifter. Ill do this one day.
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Ill probably get 3.55 first.
I have around 25k miles. Do I need the rebuilt or jus the gear
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Decision for mods

I know that I probably need to by the installation kit
This one http://www.americanmuscle.com/rearendrebuild.html
Do I need this http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-8...rce=igodigital
And if I buy the installation kit do I need to get http://www.americanmuscle.com/88-gea...mbly-2010.html as well?
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I know someone who is Ford certified and has been working on Ford vehicles for almost 20 years. When I was in the air for Gears, he INSISTED I get the rebuild kit from AM for 279.99(?). Since you have to take the rear axle area apart, it is best to just install everything new. The last thing you want after putting EVERYTHING back together, is to have an issue. So it is BEST to play it safe the first time. As going through it a 2nd time will cost you more in the long run.

FYI, my car has 8k miles also. He said unless you car JUST came off the dealer lot, any wear is bad wear and it is best to be safe.
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