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Old 05-06-2015, 04:12 PM   #1
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Pan Hard Bar Install and Adjustment

Ok so Ill be installing my BMR PHB hopefully tomorrow. Any tips or tricks for the install and adjustment? It looks like a pretty easy install. How about adjusting it, easy? The drivers side tire is sticking out too far so that what I need to fix. Do I shorten or make the bar longer?
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I've seen on a YouTube video to shorten the bar a little bit from stock one but someone else with better understanding will chime in on this


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I've seen on a YouTube video to shorten the bar a little bit from stock one but someone else with better understanding will chime in on this


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I just watched a YouTube video...seems pretty easy.
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So is installing these "dummy proof"? Example: User thinks the car looks "fine" After dropping it. Even though they need a Panhard bar, how will they know it is correct after putting it on if they already think it looked ok?
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Tie a washer to a string. Tape above fender to hang down to wheel/tire. Measure difference from each side. Adjust bar and measure again. If it doesn't change the right way, then adjust the bar the opposite direction. Seems pretty fool-proof.


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So is installing these "dummy proof"? Example: User thinks the car looks "fine" After dropping it. Even though they need a Panhard bar, how will they know it is correct after putting it on if they already think it looked ok?
Lol...Im not 100% sure what youre saying.

Ill tell you this though. You really notice how far its off when you put on a bigger tire. One of my co-workers noticed actually, my driver side tire sticks put probably almost 1/4" further than my passenger side. You really can notice it once you notice it, does that make sense?
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Tie a washer to a string. Tape above fender to hang down to wheel/tire. Measure difference from each side. Adjust bar and measure again. If it doesn't change the right way, then adjust the bar the opposite direction. Seems pretty fool-proof.


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This ^

As for installing and adjusting it's literally a bolt on each side and they usually twist in and out to adjust length.... Cake


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Thanks. Sorry for hijacking your thread Socal. As I am trying to find ALL helpful info for my suspension swap in the fall.
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Thanks. Sorry for hijacking your thread Socal. As I am trying to find ALL helpful info for my suspension swap in the fall.
Nope,thats fine. I don't consider that a thread jacking. Some of this is new to me as well. All my cars have always been IRS, this is really my first solid axle car that Ive done work on.
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I have never looked in to the suspension swap on my car because I assumed the Performance Pack one sufficed. But voltwings help shed some light that it is nothing but a base GT suspension. Which doesn't sound any better then stock V6. lol

So it's good we can all learn together. The lower control arm bracket will be new also.
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Suspension is amazing in these cars. Apples to oranges but my 01 is mainly all suspension work and it feels like a completely different car with everything I've done, it's crazy how much a good suspension brings a car to life.


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For those that have done this, do you have to take the rear tires off for removal and install of the PHB's?
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I think you can just jack it up all 4 corners.
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For those that have done this, do you have to take the rear tires off for removal and install of the PHB's?
Nope, just jack the rear up / install / lower / adjust.

Quick tip, loosen the top bolt holding the PHB brace in place, otherwise the PHB will not come out of the bracket on the body. Imagine the bracket as a big U with both of them in the middle, if you dont loosen the top bolt to release the "U" it wont come out. This will make perfect sense when you see it.

Then just make sure the car is on the ground (lower without E-brake on so car settles) and use the method above. I used a nail to have a little more weight on the string, but anything will work, you just want the string to remain stable.

Remember loc-tite. You dont want this thing working loose, but really its a very simple job.
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Wait so when adjusting the PHB the car should be on the ground? Mine is already installed, but I need to adjust it.

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Lower, maybe go around the block so everything settles. Check fit. Raise. Adjust. Repeat.


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Gotcha. Thanks

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Tie a washer to a string. Tape above fender to hang down to wheel/tire. Measure difference from each side. Adjust bar and measure again. If it doesn't change the right way, then adjust the bar the opposite direction. Seems pretty fool-proof.


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If I order the strings from America Muscle, do I still get the 6% discount?

Yes, but it's only sold in bulk 10,000yd rolls. But hey, that free shipping!


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Wait so when adjusting the PHB the car should be on the ground? Mine is already installed, but I need to adjust it.

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I parked mine at the very edge of the garage, and then i laid in the driveway to give myself an extra inch or two and was able to adjust it without raising the car. I feel this should be adjusted on a flat, level surface, but i could be wrong, its just how i did it.
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Yes, but it's only sold in bulk 10,000yd rolls. But hey, that free shipping!


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And if your tires stick out beyond your fender you can do without the string.
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I hit it with a hammer to get it in. Measured with string. It's 1/8 off but that's close enough
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Honestly, Mine came with a J&M adjustable PanHard bar. but the right passenger side on the rear still sticks out. you can see that the left side is inside the wheel well, and the right side isnt... the problem here though is that there is really no room for adjustment... I went to an alignment shop and even they cant figure out whats going on.... so now i just live with it...
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Honestly, Mine came with a J&M adjustable PanHard bar. but the right passenger side on the rear still sticks out. you can see that the left side is inside the wheel well, and the right side isnt... the problem here though is that there is really no room for adjustment... I went to an alignment shop and even they cant figure out whats going on.... so now i just live with it...

So the bar's adjustment is grounded out? just flip the bar over and adjust the other way?
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So the bar's adjustment is grounded out? just flip the bar over and adjust the other way?
you know what i havent done that since the car came with the bar.. hmm i will definitely try it! thank you!
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The starting point is to remove the OE then adjust the new PHB to the same length as the OE.
He doesn't have the OE. He got the car with the adjustable Panhard bar already on it.
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Jack up someones stang in a parking lot and take their oe bar. Just kidding!!!!!! Maybe ask someone for the measurement from theirs?

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I'll be installing my phb later this week probably. If you still need it I can get the measurements for stock.

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