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Old 05-09-2015, 02:57 PM   #1
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Suspension Mods for Stock Height

When I look through suspension upgrades I notice that a lot of these parts are meant to be used with lowering springs in order to help the car adjust to being lowered. I live up in the mountains so I'd rather not lower the car because of all the hills and bumps but I would still like to work on my suspension. So at stock height what are the most important suspension mods and also what parts aren't necessary if you dont plan to lower the car? For example, I know panhard bars are mostly adjustable because they are useful when the car is lowered but is a non-adjustable panhard bar worth the money?
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Old 05-09-2015, 03:05 PM   #2
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If you're not going to lower it I wouldn't do a ton. Maybe shocks and struts or even LCA's. The biggest upgrade to the suspension is lowering it.
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Sway bars are always a good option for a stock suspension. Pretty easy to install and you'll notice a nice improvement over stock.
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I know that you don't wanna lower your car for hills and bumps. However our car is pretty high up stock imo. Something like a eibach pro is gonna lower it so slightly that you can't really tell the difference. It's just something you might be able to look into
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I was considering doing hurst or roush springs that will drop the car 1 inch. I've heard with 1 inch drop you don't have to have as many adjustable parts or buy new shocks like you would if you drop 1.5

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For 1 inch drop, and assuming you have the stock driveshaft - you only need an adj panhard and adjustable rear lower control arm relocation brackets to correct the camber.

I am going to be complete with my swap - new adj panhard bar, new gt500 strut mounts, new shocks and struts, springs, new lower and upper rear control arms, new control arm brackets for upper and lower rear.

I know a family member that will install it all for like 200. So thats the only reason I will be doing everything at once. Also, because I have the 1 piece driveshaft so my pinion angle, camber, and rear axle will be off if I don't do most of that. And with new shocks and struts that are built for the mild drop, I will be good for a long time.

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I was going to get an adjustable upper control arm because I was planning on going with a one piece driveshaft eventually too. I'd like to do it all at once but I know it will take some time for me to be able to get all the parts so I was going to do one at a time. Do you still need relocation brackets if you buy the adjustable lower control arms?

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That is a good question. Maybe someone who is familiar with suspension work can chime in. I am also new to this and have my own thread for something similar.

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Doing Suspension upgrades in the Fall

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Watts link, solid lower control arms, torque arm
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Isnt the watts link the $900 option vs the traditional panhard bar?

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Yeah watts is expensive. However I heard great things about them.
But want to look into the swarr bar. (Ronnie has in it his car)
Also bmr is gonna have something similar too, they are going to sell it soon I believe
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Depends on your budget. A Watts Link and Torque arm will totally transform the rear suspension. Costly though


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End links with poly bushings might be good too...stock ones are flimsy and squeak like hell if you look at them the wrong way.
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BMR will soon release a $550 axle mounted watts link that replaces the panhard, I am installing Koni sports and BMR LCA's with J&M cc plates soon.
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What are the benefits of a watts link over the panhard bar?

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What are the benefits of a watts link over the panhard bar?

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A panhard bar connects one end of the axle to one end of the chassis. It works decent, but leaves room for a lot of lateral movement. A watts link gets rid of the panhard bar and replaces the differential cover with one that connects to each side of the chassis. So instead of having the left side of the axle connected to the right side of the chassis, you now have the center of the axle connected to the left and right side of the chassis. It really tightens up the rear end and keeps it a lot more stable.

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Well if BMR is making one I might go for one of those then instead of a panhard. I've heard a lot of good things about the brand and I think I am going to go with mostly BMR parts and maybe Eibach sway bars.

Still considering dropping the car an inch but i'll have to see if lowering it is still worth it for me. Until then I will probably start with sway bars since they are important if I drop or stick with stock height. I am also thinking I should get an adjustable upper control arm as well but how difficult are they to install and adjust?

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With a panhard bar, you have a different roll center turning left vs turning right, since one end is mounted low on the axle, and the other is high on the body.

With a watts link, the roll center is both lower, and uniform between the left and right since it is now anchored in the middle (on the diff) and uniformly on either side to the body.
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Suspension Mods for Stock Height

If your car is lowered. can you still use watts link or swarr bar?
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absolutely, the watts link is heavily used in S197 racing.
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If you want something to brace the axle, instead of a swarr bar I would go with a torque arm. Swarr bars are generally used in drag applications to prevent the axle tubes from spinning. A torque arm is much better. It replaces your upper control arm.


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However if you have a vert you cannot use a watts setup due to bracing but you coupe guys....
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