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Old 06-01-2015, 08:06 AM   #1
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Ran into small problem w/ shorty install...

First off - anyone trying to do this install yourself: it's possible but well worth the extra $50 or so to have a shop do it. Besides the point, I was removing the passenger side header and dropped one of the nuts. The problem is, I didn't hear it hit the ground. I looked and probed for about an hour to see if I could find it sitting on something in the engine bay but I haven't found a trace of it nor can I rattle anything. Should I really be worried about where it went? I don't have a problem running to Home Depot to try and get a replacement nut but am afraid it's fallen somewhere it shouldn't have - am I being paranoid? This is my daily driver so I've got to have it functional within the next day or so. I just keep imagining starting it up and blowing my car up....

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Where can you get it installed for $50?


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Seriously, for $50 I'd let someone else deal with headers all day long.
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it likely ended up in the K-member somewhere. As long as its not binding anything in the steering rack you're fine.
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I checked Home Deport in the area I live and as they do sell bolts, they do not sell these studs. You will need to reorder them from ford.

On top of that, they could not find an EXACT bolt match to the stud. So I did not risk trying anything unusual and thread out the hole on the engine. Trust me, you do not want to do this.

However, I could not find them on Ford. I had to order a new Nut and Stud on ebay. I even asked a guy at AM since they did not carry these, he could not find them either.

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Try https://www.fastenal.com/home if you have one near you. They're commercial, so their hours are 9-5 which makes things a bit of a pain if you work a 9-5, but they'll likely have what you need, ive had to get studs and washers there a few times for jobs.
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Shorty Install

I didn't trust any shops here in Las Cruces, NM to install my shorties. Inquired at a Albuquerque shop: $550 to install. If someone knowledgeable quoted me $50, I"d be there in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-01-2015, 11:35 AM   #8
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Donn't worry about where it fell, it can't get into to anything important. If you are really worried buy one of those telescoping rods with a magnet on the end and run it over your frame.
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I had the same problem when taking off my strut brace. Bolt disappeared lol. Had to get a new one from FordParts.com

And if you found a shop to install for $50... You should've done it.


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Well hopefully you have solved your problem by now.
If not, if you were not able to get the nut from your local dealer, the next question, as I see it, is to find out the actual size. For example 3/8" x 16, etc.
You have the ford part # but I haven't seen an actual size associated with it.
Of course, you could use one of the existing nuts to figure out the size.
Once you get the correct size it should be easy enough to find a replacement, even if it's just a temporary one.
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My guess is also k member, when I did mine I dropped one of the nuts into the mid pipe, good thing the catalytic converters were there to catch it

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$50, lowest price around here was $350.

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Yeah I've heard average at $200+ for install. Damn I might have paid that too had I known how much of a pain it was. I found a pretty much perfect replacement at Home Depot though. It's a M8×1.25 I think? Anyway it threads right but it's shiny so it's going on the back. Still haven't got them all tight my wrench got stuck on the rear #3 bolt. Might grind the stud down to clear it not sure. Just hope it's worth it...

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I don't think it was 50 it's probably a typo for 500?


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To get my shorty's installed, it was slightly over $300 and worth every penny of it!
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Old 06-07-2015, 06:41 AM   #17
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Me too, I just came into a little money & may get ceramic shorties myself, 1st I want to do 3.55:1 gear change, these 2.73:1 stink!!
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Me too, I just came into a little money & may get ceramic shorties myself, 1st I want to do 3.55:1 gear change, these 2.73:1 stink!!
Do the gears.
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Yeah I've heard average at $200+ for install. Damn I might have paid that too had I known how much of a pain it was. I found a pretty much perfect replacement at Home Depot though. It's a M8×1.25 I think? Anyway it threads right but it's shiny so it's going on the back. Still haven't got them all tight my wrench got stuck on the rear #3 bolt. Might grind the stud down to clear it not sure. Just hope it's worth it...

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I got my wrench caught here too, for a second I pondered how bad it would be to have a wrench hanging on my headers for the rest of the cars life, lol!


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my headers only costed me 25 bucks and a 24 pack of beer, the first time and was leaking. then took it back with new felpro gaskets charged me 50$. so i paid like 150 in total for my installation even tho took em twice to fix it lol
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my headers only costed me 25 bucks and a 24 pack of beer, the first time and was leaking. then took it back with new felpro gaskets charged me 50$. so i paid like 150 in total for my installation even tho took em twice to fix it lol
I think the "24 pack of beer" tends to help cause leaks.LOL
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lol thats what i thought i should of gave them to him hot or after the work on the car lol
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So I got the wrench out and the rest of the bolts on and took her for a spin. I honestly only expected a small increase in HP and was really aiming for better sound and support for future mods. I have to be honest the sound is amazing, but the biggest change was the power! I let my wife drive and she broke the tires loose at a green light by accident, with the traction control on... Now however I'm trying to figure out if I have a leak or not. I used the BBK gaskets and everything looked tight. Maybe might be the change in sound but it seems I can really hear the engine now when accelerating. I wouldn't say it's a "sucking" sound but def something I haven't heard before. At idle I don't hear anything abnormal under the hood, but it sure does still smell like burning oil...

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Ha. I did exactly the same thing on my install. Dropped a nut and looked forever trying to find it. Never did. I was in my garage, so I know it didn't fall all the way through. Went to the local Ace Hardware and got an exact SAE replacement for like $0.89. Home Depot sux!
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Ran into small problem w/ shorty install...

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So I got the wrench out and the rest of the bolts on and took her for a spin. I honestly only expected a small increase in HP and was really aiming for better sound and support for future mods. I have to be honest the sound is amazing, but the biggest change was the power! I let my wife drive and she broke the tires loose at a green light by accident, with the traction control on... Now however I'm trying to figure out if I have a leak or not. I used the BBK gaskets and everything looked tight. Maybe might be the change in sound but it seems I can really hear the engine now when accelerating. I wouldn't say it's a "sucking" sound but def something I haven't heard before. At idle I don't hear anything abnormal under the hood, but it sure does still smell like burning oil...

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Congrats man, I love the difference in the sound too! I haven't noticed a sucking sound from my headers, but I used new OEM gaskets...not sure if that makes any difference :/


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Lol yeah HD has its issues... but you work with what you got

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Congrats man, I love the difference in the sound too! I haven't noticed a sucking sound from my headers, but I used new OEM gaskets...not sure if that makes any difference :/


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my headers only costed me 25 bucks and a 24 pack of beer, the first time and was leaking. then took it back with new felpro gaskets charged me 50$. so i paid like 150 in total for my installation even tho took em twice to fix it lol
My LT header install this weekend is costing me a case of beer and paying for his lunch.

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I think the "24 pack of beer" tends to help cause leaks.LOL
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