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Old 08-15-2015, 04:48 PM   #141
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With a 5.0 comes higher insurance cost, lower fuel efficiency, and no stealth factor. Super charge a v6 and you get the opposite. The look on the 5.0 driver's face as you smoke him off the line would be priceless.
To build my car for a SC it will be around 10k Canadian, as for fuel efficiency I'm sure a SC 3.7 will be on par or not far off a 5.0, hell the couple of bolt ons I've done on my 3.7 along with my 3.73s is almost on par with a stock 5.0 when it comes to Mpgs lol.
And the sound from a V8......priceless!
So for me its almost a straight trade off.
Insurance rates up here in Quebec are generally cheaper as we have a no fault insurance that generally keeps cost down in comparison to other provinces and the U.S.
I love my 3.7 but at one point I have to sit back and decide how much am I willing to invest into it.
I've already began shopping for a 5.0 😀.

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Got my dyno results today. 418RWHP/387 TORQ. Was on a mustang dyno and hot as heck...


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Damn good numbers torque high too lol how did u manage that?


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Got my dyno results today. 418RWHP/387 TORQ. Was on a mustang dyno and hot as heck...


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Mustang dyno is better than the standard dyno jet because their numbers are not over inflated.

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Mustang dyno is better than the standard dyno jet because their numbers are not over inflated.

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True and false.
Here is why.
A dyno is only as good as the operator who set it up.
The correction factor SAE or STD makes a big difference as well.

Most shops will tell you "remember it's a mustang dyno" to make you feel better.
A properly loaded dyno jet will be identical to a properly setup mustang dyno

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True and false.
Here is why.
A dyno is only as good as the operator who set it up.
The correction factor SAE or STD makes a big difference as well.

Most shops will tell you "remember it's a mustang dyno" to make you feel better.
A properly loaded dyno jet will be identical to a properly setup mustang dyno

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Rap, are most dyno jets loaded?

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Rap, are most dyno jets loaded?

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Most of them can be setup both ways.

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Most of them can be setup both ways.

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Can you ask the dyno jet operator to make sure the machine is loaded for a more accurate result. Seems like most dyno operators try to inflait the numbers

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Can you ask the dyno jet operator to make sure the machine is loaded for a more accurate result. Seems like most dyno operators try to inflait the numbers

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Most shops run it loaded. Some dont.
The main thing loaded dyno does is simulate the car being on a actual road.

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Most shops run it loaded. Some dont.
The main thing loaded dyno does is simulate the car being on a actual road.

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So as long as the dyno jet is loaded the results are near equal to a mustang dyno? Its my understanding that a mustang dyno also simulates a car being on the actual road as well.

I had my car dyno a few year back on a dyno jet and wonder now if it was loaded or not. Never knew to ask back then

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So as long as the dyno jet is loaded the results are near equal to a mustang dyno? Its my understanding that a mustang dyno also simulates a car being on the actual road as well.

I had my car dyno a few year back on a dyno jet and wonder now if it was loaded or not. Never knew to ask back then

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Loaded and calibrated right right yes.
There is so many little tricks a dyno operator can do to give a higher #
There is shops that are guilty of this.

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Got my dyno results today. 418RWHP/387 TORQ. Was on a mustang dyno and hot as heck...


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Holy hell... I want your Stang. What's that make it, about 500 hp at the crank??? Smokin' GT fools... love it.

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Holy hell... I want your Stang. What's that make it, about 500 hp at the crank??? Smokin' GT fools... love it.

Well done my man!
Definitely not "smokin gt's" of the same year

It will be a good fight against 3v's and 2v's
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Definitely not "smokin gt's" of the same year

It will be a good fight against 3v's and 2v's
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Roughly 80 more horsepower and over 100 pounds lighter than a stock GT, I'll go ahead and put my money on the super charged and performance tuned V6.
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Roughly 80 more horsepower and over 100 pounds lighter than a stock GT, I'll go ahead and put my money on the super charged and performance tuned V6.
80hp more than what gt?
Definitely not the coyote. Not even close to a stock one.

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Old 08-19-2015, 09:36 PM   #156
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Stock coyotes are putting 350-360 to the wheels. Put down 420 in this weather? Yeah he's at at least 80rwhp more than the coyote. I blow coyotes away , and he will too. Not even close

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Stock coyotes are putting 350-360 to the wheels. Put down 420 in this weather? Yeah he's at at least 80rwhp more than the coyote. I blow coyotes away , and he will too. Not even close

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Lol no no no

My coyote stock made 377 SAE try again.
Most manuals dyno 365-380 stock.

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Let's clear something up here.
The 3.7's are no joke. But tread lightly with the blow a coyote away crap.

There is a reason EVERY procharged 3.7 has gone turbo..................... simply bc a car makes a 4** something power level, does not make it fast. Food for thought

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I'm located in NY. There are hundreds of procharged 3.7s and just a handful of turbo ones.
377 versus 430 is still a 53 rwhp difference. And he had more torque. Most pro charged 3.7s are running low 12s and high 11s. No stock coyote is doing that.


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A bolt on and tuned Coyote will wtfpwn a 400whp Cyclone, that is just a fact. It won't even be close. This is taking nothing away from the Cyclone, it is a BADASS motor but it can't compete with the Coyote. Not without a real good turbo kit anyway.

edit: Is LPF still screwing ppl over on the 3.7L turbos and did CFP ever finish theirs?
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Stock I made 377/348
On MOTOR currently I make
440/391

THE 3.7 is a dam good motor we just have to be realistic.
I think a stock motor 3v with boost would be a good match for a Procharged 3.7.

418hp 3.7 vs a similar powered 3v would be a race I would like to see. Power bands are identical it would be good

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A bolt on and tuned Coyote will wtfpwn a 400whp Cyclone, that is just a fact. It won't even be close. This is taking nothing away from the Cyclone, it is a BADASS motor but it can't compete with the Coyote. Not without a real good turbo kit anyway.

edit: Is LPF still screwing ppl over on the 3.7L turbos and did CFP ever finish theirs?
Who said anything about a bolt on and tuned coyote? I said a stock coyote

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The stock GT at his year is listed at 420hp, which is at the crank, which makes it roughly 80hp less than the OP's charged and performance tuned V6.

I will put my $$$ on his V6 any day vs a stock GT... Hell even a stock 2015 GT. As far as "smoking" I obviously was using loosely. We are talking Mustang vs Mustang here. Lol
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You guys are so set on a HP #
I would put my money on a 100% stock manual coyote with nothing more than a slick out back.

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My superchargedv6 is pretty fast I have the 2.73 gears but once I punch it in 2nd and 3rd I'm making 100 or scary fast. I am not scared of a gt or any v8


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My superchargedv6 is pretty fast I have the 2.73 gears but once I punch it in 2nd and 3rd I'm making 100 or scary fast. I am not scared of a gt or any v8


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My superchargedv6 is pretty fast I have the 2.73 gears but once I punch it in 2nd and 3rd I'm making 100 or scary fast. I am not scared of a gt or any v8


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A gear change from 2.73 to 3.31s or 3.55s would be awesome for a SC 3.7, something to consider.

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Even a stock Coyote will likely beat a procharged six. Different gearing the the V8 MT82 plus the RPMs. It would be a close race. But I'm not sure if there is anyone on a performance forum like this who has a bone stock Coyote. And if one can beat a bone stock coyote in a procharged V6 that they likely spent more money on than just buying a Coyote... more power to them?


Now getting back to the original thread. I would not trust Procharger, not after all the issues they had back in the 2000s with their headunits and the terribad customer service. Maybe they have fixed everything now, I dunno. What I DO know is that Vortech has always made a spectacular product, good customer service and priced right. You will never go wrong with choosing Vortech if you are looking for a centrifugal blower.
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Spent under 30k including buying my car brand new . I'll race a stock coyote for $ any day, send them my way. 11565 NY.

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I have always considered "classes" when it comes to any car. For fairness purposes. To me, a 3.7 vs 5.0 is going out of your class. So by doing this, if each side is modded, that is a "At your own risk" type of situation. Yes a highly modded 3.7 can beat a stock 5.0, but that isn't fair to the 5.0s. A better comparison is a fully modded 3.7 vs modded 5.0. Just looking at it from both sides.

To mod a 3.7 to contend with 5.0s to me seems like a waste of $$$. As their platform has the potential for higher numbers. For us to even contend with them, we need to go FI to beat a stock one. Which to me, seems a bit much. I raced a stock 5.0 with my 2014 and all of its bolt ons, and lost. They are quick even at stock level.

I would say enjoy racing people in the 3.7 class or ricers. Lol. Leave the 5.0s for the shelbys to whomp on.

Every car is impressive in their own class. I saw a 2014 Shelby go toe to toe with an old 10 second hot rod at the drag strip. Was pretty impressive.
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I would not feel comfortable vs a Coyote in a 12-down GT500 without a blower swap. Even then there are plenty of bolt on Coyotes in the mid-low 11s. Like I said they are freaks.
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I would not feel comfortable vs a Coyote in a 12-down GT500 without a blower swap. Even then there are plenty of bolt on Coyotes in the mid-low 11s. Like I said they are freaks.
Yup. However, if you REALLY want to take on a 5.0 Coyote with a fully bolt on 3.7, SA Raceway in Texas is where to do it. Those people mis-shift SOO bad you can hear it from the stands. Some of those guys run 13.7-14.1 in the 1/4 mile with those 5.0s. EMBARRASSING!

I guess just cuz they have a 5.0, they think they can beat everyone. I guess a big engine isn't everything. I think some people should invest equally in driving lessons as they do with mods. #dynoracers
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Yup. However, if you REALLY want to take on a 5.0 Coyote with a fully bolt on 3.7, SA Raceway in Texas is where to do it. Those people mis-shift SOO bad you can hear it from the stands. Some of those guys run 13.7-14.1 in the 1/4 mile with those 5.0s. EMBARRASSING!

I guess just cuz they have a 5.0, they think they can beat everyone. I guess a big engine isn't everything. I think some people should invest equally in driving lessons as they do with mods. #dynoracers
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That is what the auto is for.
I know. but you know those type of people that think if you have ANY type of sports car, it HAS to be a manual. And more often then not, those are the people that don't know how to shift.

Example: A guy I spoke to at a parts store has a manual 5.0 coyote. Kept going on about how quick it was and said I should have got a 5.0 w/ manual. So a few weeks later I actually saw him at the drag strip. He was one of those guys running 13.8 and mis-shifting. Lol.
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