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Old 06-12-2015, 09:35 PM   #1
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Installed Eibach Sportlines!

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I am extremely pleased with the results! And it should drop a bit more once all settled in. I also installed a set of Ford Racing shocks/struts. Took me about 4 hours on jack stands and I took my time. About an hour was spent wrenching on and off the spring compressors cause they were some old ones my dad had laying around lol.

The ride quality is pretty firm over stock. Got rid of that floaty boat like feel. Handles like a dream too. I'm going to install LCAs and relocation brackets tomrw/Sunday.

Also, after installing my one piece driveshaft, i noticed pretty bad vibrations around 2-3k. I thought this was because of the dual mass flywheel.. But after I lowered it, it just about eliminated the vibrations and it's really smooth. So this tells me that the pinion angle was off from the factory. Thought that was kind of weird. I'm going to check my pinion angle tomorrow and if it's on spot, then I might not even install the adj UCA.

By the way.. Anyone looking for stock suspension?

My back hurts.
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That's one sick looking ride!!! Great job.
Btw if you not going to use that adj uca how much u want for it lol?

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That's one sick looking ride!!! Great job.
Btw if you not going to use that adj uca how much u want for it lol?

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Thank you! I'm not sure if I'm going to sell it yet, but if I do, you will be the first dibs.
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The one pc drive shaft changes how the pinion angle would need to be adjusted. The angle is now from the trans and not the carrier bearing like it is with a 2 pc drive shaft. Also, you will most likely need the adjustable UCA and the bracket since you have the one pc drive shaft.


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The one pc drive shaft changes how the pinion angle would need to be adjusted. The angle is now from the trans and not the carrier bearing like it is with a 2 pc drive shaft. Also, you will most likely need the adjustable UCA and the bracket since you have the one pc drive shaft.


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Right. I understand. I just find it weird how after I lowered it, it smoothed out the driveline.
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Looks great. Any scraping yet?

Also, I noticed you don't have any side emblems, there's no holes behind them?
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Looks great. Any scraping yet?

Also, I noticed you don't have any side emblems, there's no holes behind them?
No scraping!... yet. There's actually a good amount of clearance underneath. I think the 20s help out

I never had any side emblems. I believe they only come on the 3.7 pony package.
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The one pc drive shaft changes how the pinion angle would need to be adjusted. The angle is now from the trans and not the carrier bearing like it is with a 2 pc drive shaft.
3.7s don't have a carrier bearing mid-shaft like the 5.0s. They have a crappy sliding spline connection in the middle of the shaft.
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3.7s don't have a carrier bearing mid-shaft like the 5.0s. They have a crappy sliding spline connection in the middle of the shaft.

Oh interesting. I figured they were similar. My bad.


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The one pc drive shaft changes how the pinion angle would need to be adjusted. The angle is now from the trans and not the carrier bearing like it is with a 2 pc drive shaft. Also, you will most likely need the adjustable UCA and the bracket since you have the one pc drive shaft.


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He is right about the pinion angle and you need an adjustable upper control arm. I had to go through this like a month ago lol


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Nice stance, great info concerning the pinion angle. Thanks for the views.
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Damn this has me thinking now, I have vibrations around 2-3k too and that is the only thing I hate about the car right now. I did add a 1 piece ds so now I'm wondering how bad my pinion angle is off Hmmm thanks!
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Looking good brother. Installing the Pro Kit myself this weekend. Rear laat night and front after I finish my coffee.
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Damn this has me thinking now, I have vibrations around 2-3k too and that is the only thing I hate about the car right now. I did add a 1 piece ds so now I'm wondering how bad my pinion angle is off Hmmm thanks!
Are you lowered? If so, your angle may be off.

The 2-3k vibration may be from the dual-mass flywheel.

Which shaft do you have? The DSS shaft has a CV joint at the rear, which helps if the pinion angle is off.
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Are you lowered? If so, your angle may be off.



The 2-3k vibration may be from the dual-mass flywheel.



Which shaft do you have? The DSS shaft has a CV joint at the rear, which helps if the pinion angle is off.

Did you read the last part of my post?
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I did. You didn't say which shaft you have. AE, DSS, or somebody else?
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I did. You didn't say which shaft you have. AE, DSS, or somebody else?

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So I checked my pinion angle today after installing my springs, shocks/struts, LCAs + relocation brackets, and it was right on the money. -2 degrees. I kept the aftermarket LCAs at stock length.

Front trans measurement was 2 degrees less than the rear pinion. I find this extremely odd that it was off from the factory. Makes me wonder how many others are like this and putting strain on their drivetrain. Just another reason to run a crappy 2 piece shaft. No wonder why they're exploding lol
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So I checked my pinion angle today after installing my springs, shocks/struts, LCAs + relocation brackets, and it was right on the money. -2 degrees. I kept the aftermarket LCAs at stock length.

Front trans measurement was 2 degrees less than the rear pinion. I find this extremely odd that it was off from the factory. Makes me wonder how many others are like this and putting strain on their drivetrain. Just another reason to run a crappy 2 piece shaft. No wonder why they're exploding lol

-2 is the setting when you are running poly bushings. -3 to -4 for rubber just FYI


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-2 is the setting when you are running poly bushings. -3 to -4 for rubber just FYI


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"If you have a fully aftermarket rear end, you could run about 1 to 1.5 degrees. If you are running a common street setup with one set of control arms only, then 2 degrees or so is more appropriate."

-Taken right for this link which explains pinion angle: http://www.cherod.com/mustang/HowTo/LCA%20_adj.htm
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"If you have a fully aftermarket rear end, you could run about 1 to 1.5 degrees. If you are running a common street setup with one set of control arms only, then 2 degrees or so is more appropriate."

-Taken right for this link which explains pinion angle: http://www.cherod.com/mustang/HowTo/LCA%20_adj.htm

Right. But my point is that ford most likely had it set -3 or -4 before he dropped it.


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Right. But my point is that ford most likely had it set -3 or -4 before he dropped it.


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Ah, makes sense.
Wait, no. I take that back. Wouldn't that put it a 0 degree angle at factory height?
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Wait, no. I take that back. Wouldn't that put it a 0 degree angle at factory height?

No it's the opposite. Lowering it pushes the angle or the front of the diff down which takes away negative pinion angle. Pull it up and it adds to the pinion angle.


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No it's the opposite. Lowering it pushes the angle or the front of the diff down which takes away negative pinion angle. Pull it up and it adds to the pinion angle.


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How does it push the front down? Doesn't it lower the trans flange, therefor "pushing" the diff up
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How does it push the front down? Doesn't it lower the trans flange, therefor "pushing" the diff up

Hmm. Well when I did mine the front was down. But maybe it's because I changed out so much at once that I had that result. You might be right. But I still don't think your pinion angle was off from the factory. It's because you started changing things like the drive shaft without checking the pinion angle after. I am sure if you swapped your factory drive shaft back in now that your lowered it wouldn't have the same result.


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Hmm. Well when I did mine the front was down. But maybe it's because I changed out so much at once that I had that result. You might be right. But I still don't think your pinion angle was off from the factory. It's because you started changing things like the drive shaft without checking the pinion angle after. I am sure if you swapped your factory drive shaft back in now that your lowered it wouldn't have the same result.


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I know I'm right. When I changed to my one piece, I was at a neutral setting 0 (factory), therefor causing vibrations under acceleration. After lowering, it put the trans flange lower than the pinion flange causing it to line up during acceleration, hence the -2 degree angle. If I swapped my factory shaft back in, it wouldn't make much of a difference because the two piece shafts are a lot more forgiving to misaligned pinion angles.

Also, you're running an auto which is different than standard trans when it comes to pinion angles.
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I know I'm right. When I changed to my one piece, I was at a neutral setting 0 (factory), therefor causing vibrations under acceleration. After lowering, it put the trans flange lower than the pinion flange causing it to line up during acceleration, hence the -2 degree angle. If I swapped my factory shaft back in, it wouldn't make much of a difference because the two piece shafts are a lot more forgiving to misaligned pinion angles.

Also, you're running an auto which is different than standard trans when it comes to pinion angles.

Well first, two pc drive shaft pinion angle is measured not by the trans and diff but by the post carrier bearing part of the drive shaft and the diff. The trans isn't a factor with a 2 pc drive shaft

Second I have a manual. Not sure how you decided I have an auto.


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The V6 shaft doesn't have a center carrier bearing.
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The V6 shaft doesn't have a center carrier bearing.

Yeah I know, I keep forgetting he has a v6


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But you raise a great point about differences in measuring the pinion angle between the stock V6 and V8 setups!
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Well first, two pc drive shaft pinion angle is measured not by the trans and diff but by the post carrier bearing part of the drive shaft and the diff. The trans isn't a factor with a 2 pc drive shaft

Second I have a manual. Not sure how you decided I have an auto.


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My bad I got you confused with someone from a different post.
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