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Old 08-11-2015, 08:53 PM   #1
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Manual with tune

So just want some opinions from you manual trans stangs with a tune. Did you really notice a big difference in the car or am I just expecting to much from the 93 bama v2 tune.


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It's definitely better than the stock tune, but I'm going to try Mpt, these V2 tunes don't do anything more than my original bama tune.

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It doesn't feel faster from the gate but I can tell in the corners it's a lot easier to control drifting. Feels like it has more low end on the freeway in sixth gear but I just don't feel it from the gate. Wondering if it's had enough time to set in


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Tbh my car now feels a little flat . I feel that even with 3,73s, it seems like my car gained 80lbs with these new v2 tunes. I'm going back to my original 91R from the 91V2 tune and then going with Mpt. No more ****ing around with tunes, so many people here that have run both bama and mpt and all say mpt over bama.

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Manual with tune

This is true. I thought I wud try bamas v2 tune but I'm pretty disappointed. The car doesn't even rev with no load the same. Off to mpt it is. My sig says I have mpt because I somewhat expected this to happen. I'll be in touch with mpt tomorrow.


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This is true. I thought I wud try bamas v2 tune but I'm pretty disappointed. The car doesn't even rev with no load the same. Off to mpt it is. My sig says I have mpt because I somewhat expected this to happen. I'll be in touch with mpt tomorrow.


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+1. I have nothing bad to say about Bama, but nothing fantastic either....
I just don't want to shell out 75$ or 105cdn and say huh, doesn't really pull any better than bama........
Maybe I'm just expecting to much from a tune idk, but I do know that the V2 tune does nothing more than my original 91R did.
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Thanks for the heads up


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That money goes farther with bolt ons a lot of times
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I was curious to hear people's thoughts on tuning a manual. How about MPT? What do yall notice? Because I want to tune my 2011 3.7 manual when I get it next week.
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For my part, positive differences are there but they're more subtle improvements. My car feels as if it builds power more quickly now. "Feels" as in it is subtle enough that I'm not sure it would show on a dyno but it's there. Not unhappy as it came as 'free tunes for life'. Now if I paid $80 for the V2 tune, I'd be unhappy.
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Manual trans here, I had a fully dialed in tune from steeda. I swapped to mpt and out of the box it pulled harder everywhere. After some datalogs to fine tune to my car, its very strong. The biggest place the mpt outshines my old tune is down low. It just pulls hard all the way to redline.

I will say,everyone I've seen that swap to mpt from someone else see a drop in their 1/4mi times. So whatever they are doing that others aren't is working.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:57 AM   #12
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I have an MPT tune with my Manual. The tune really woke up my car. Out of 1st she really wants to go. If you have MPT/3.73's be prepared to use the classic cowboy line "whoa girl, whoa". MPT does know what they are doing in terms of tuning our 3.7. If you datalog, it gets better. I just jumped onto the V2 tunes wagon, they do feel the same as my pre-v2. It does pull a little harder when jumping on the frwy. But nothing like MPT's. You'll really enjoy it, best $70 I spent.
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Y'all convinced me. I'm gonna datalog bamas v2 and order the mpt tonight. But based on everything I've seen/read mpt will be the tune to run.

Have any of you had any weird idle with either tune? I noticed my car last night had a weird idle to it on the 93 race tune v2. Idk how to explain it because the rpm wasn't surging but the car definitely felt like the motor was vibrating more than normal.


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Y'all convinced me. I'm gonna datalog bamas v2 and order the mpt tonight. But based on everything I've seen/read mpt will be the tune to run.

Have any of you had any weird idle with either tune? I noticed my car last night had a weird idle to it on the 93 race tune v2. Idk how to explain it because the rpm wasn't surging but the car definitely felt like the motor was vibrating more than normal.
Yeah, I've noticed that it does idle a little rougher than usual(V2). The MPT does like to sip Gas a little more than the Bama. On long trips, Bama 87/89. In town MPT. The 91 MPT tune is pretty mean. I have the 87/89 and the 91 in both non-Ghost cam and Ghost cam. Both are amazing.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:08 AM   #15
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Good to hear. Has the ghost can fried your cats yet?


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Good to hear. Has the ghost can fried your cats yet?


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LOL!! Not yet, I don't run that tune for too long. Just to car meets or if I feel like showing off a little. It does smell rich though, that's why I don't use it for long. (cats do rattle more at around 2krpm out of 1st and 2nd) But with the exhaust set up I have, sounds mean.
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The fastest na cyclone is running an mpt tune I believe. They know what they are doing with those 3.7s
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What happens to the cats under the ghost cam tune. I know it dumps extra fuel and loads up the cats but does it require you to replace the cats eventually or cause the O2 sensors to go bad? What does it really do


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What happens to the cats under the ghost cam tune. I know it dumps extra fuel and loads up the cats but does it require you to replace the cats eventually or cause the O2 sensors to go bad? What does it really do


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The cats get hotter than normal. The "rich" in the exhaust will start to kill the insides. They do recommend you using high-flow cats as those have a little more give than stock. Some 3.7's are ok a little longer on the Ghost Cam tune. But I'm in Cali and I don't feel like paying an arm and a leg to get the Cats replaced often just because of running a tune for extended periods.
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The fastest na cyclone is running an mpt tune I believe. They know what they are doing with those 3.7s
Yup, Also their Customer Service is outstanding. I had an issue with a tune and they saw it through with quick responses. All around great company.
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Yup, Also their Customer Service is outstanding. I had an issue with a tune and they saw it through with quick responses. All around great company.
Yep Ken has always gotten back to me quickly.
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The ghost cam tunes don't actually dump extra fuel, the added cam overlap just causes the unburnt fuel to exit the exhaust valve before combustion. What you're actually hearing with a "cam," is poor vacuum and inefficient combustion, It just sounds cool.
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Night and day difference on my 2013 PP with Bamas V2 91 race tune much better than the old tunes I had. Feels to me like I have a better powerband. Launches hard with the neutral rev limiter set to 2500 and traction control off, chirps going into second and third.

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Manual with tune

Thanks for chiming in voltwings. So will trashing the factory cars hurt anything else or cause the motor to not perform properly on a normal tune? I'm not worried about proper emissions as Michigan does not test them but if it will cause other issues I wouldn't want to run it?


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Just pull a spark plug for the same effect
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Thanks for chiming in voltwings. So will trashing the factory cars hurt anything else or cause the motor to not perform properly on a normal tune? I'm not worried about proper emissions as Michigan does not test them but if it will cause other issues I wouldn't want to run it?


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The only issue I had with the Ghost Cam was the I had a slight knocking coming from the engine. After some tuning and Data logging. Knocking was gone. may have been a valve opening and closing. The Ghost Cam Stage 2 does shake the car a little bit. So that might have been it.
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Thanks for chiming in voltwings. So will trashing the factory cars hurt anything else or cause the motor to not perform properly on a normal tune? I'm not worried about proper emissions as Michigan does not test them but if it will cause other issues I wouldn't want to run it?


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A clogged cat would just hurt performance or mpg, the secondary O2 just measures cat efficiency, so as long as the cats are totally muffed, you wont have any CELs or anything.

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The only issue I had with the Ghost Cam was the I had a slight knocking coming from the engine. After some tuning and Data logging. Knocking was gone. may have been a valve opening and closing. The Ghost Cam Stage 2 does shake the car a little bit. So that might have been it.
My (standard) transmission rattled like crazy if i didnt have the clutch pushed in, are you sure it was actual knock?
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My (standard) transmission rattled like crazy if i didnt have the clutch pushed in, are you sure it was actual knock?



Yeah, I had it in neutral and the knocking would start. I had the clutch in all the way(throwout bearing), still a knock. They changed out the timing(I think) and that helped it go away.
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Gotcha. Thanks guys


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If you're really trying to squeeze every last ounce of power out of your mustang, you should consider getting a dyno tune specifically for your vehicle. You'll have faster results than data logging and you'll get to see how much power she puts down.
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