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Old 09-02-2015, 11:22 AM   #36
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About 57k original miles...way too early for something to wear out with normal driving.
Dude, that is frightening. Please let us know what parts were "worn" and how bad. Have you ever had the fluid changed?
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^ Will do. No prior fluid changes, but the interval in the manual is (a silly) 150k miles.

I tend to prefer spending less money instead of more on repairs, but in the grand scheme, a few hundred bucks one way or the other doesn't make a huge difference.
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^ Will do. No prior fluid changes, but the interval in the manual is (a silly) 150k miles.

I tend to prefer spending less money instead of more on repairs, but in the grand scheme, a few hundred bucks one way or the other doesn't make a huge difference.
Are you sure that's right? I thought it was every 50k? I bought my last car (a CTS) with 85k miles and let about an ounce of tranny fluid dribble into a cup to see how it looked. It was balck! Never been changed. No automatic should go over 50k without a complete flush IMO. In fact, I plan on doing my Mustang every 30k, because protecting my tranny is worth $200 every 2-3 years for me.

If the manual does say 150k, I hope nobody on here relies on that.
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Agreed...50k makes more sense. The manual's interval may be more about reducing the perceived maintenance costs. Still, 57k with original fluid is a bit early for problems...trans temp gauge never went over 190F either.
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Agreed...50k makes more sense. The manual's internal may be more about reducing the perceived maintenance costs. Still, 57k with original fluid is a bit early for problems...trans temp gauge never went over 190F either.
I completely agree, even at 57k it shouldn't be causing parts to wear. Make sure they show you the magnet in the drop pan. If it's covered with little metal shards you could be looking at a complete rebuild down the road.

I hope everything turns out for the best for you and this all permanently solves your issues.
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and people said the MT82s were fragile...

I don't feel the mt82 is fragile. I dump the clutch several times daily on mine and never had any second thought. They run these behind the v8. They should have no problems handling the v6. Only thing I worry about is the clutch but when she goes I'll upgrade so no worries there


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I don't feel the mt82 is fragile. I dump the clutch several times daily on mine and never had any second thought. They run these behind the v8. They should have no problems handling the v6. Only thing I worry about is the clutch but when she goes I'll upgrade so no worries there


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OK, so have the car back today (actually it was done late yesterday, but they called half an hour before closing and I was busy) and the problem appears to be fixed! They stated that they did not find metal shavings or obvious signs of wear, but found several parts that were out of tolerance. Presumably the bad tailshaft bearing that they previously replaced allowed enough play to put those parts out of spec.

For those interested, here's what they replaced.

GEAR ASY - PLANET - FORD (BL3Z-7D006-A)
HUB ASY - FORD (AL3Z-7B067-A)
RING GEAR - FORD (BL3Z-7A153-A)
PLANET ASY - FORWARD - FORD (BL3Z-7A398-A)
GEAR ASY - SUN - FORD (9L3Z-7D063-E)
BEARING - FORD (6L2Z-7G178-AA)
BRACKET - FORD (BL3Z-7A130-A)

Their full retail parts cost is about $500 more than what AutoNation Ford White Bear Lake lists them for, but factor in the overnight shipping and labor costs that the shop absorbed, and that becomes a smaller difference. They also did not charge for installing the aluminum driveshaft. There were two $30 charges for shop supplies and safe waste disposal, so two small bundles of rags for Mud. They also let me use some discount coupons that more than balances that out.

So I've had two ATF flushes before 60K miles, which puts me on a 30K fluid change interval, right?
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if it works it was $ well spent.
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^ I think I need a 140-mile, 3.75-hour test-drive to be sure.
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I'm glad everything is sorted out... 😆

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And I practically have a rebuilt transmission now...LOL.
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^ I think I need a 140-mile, 3.75-hour test-drive to be sure.
Coming right up sir....well, it is a little bit in the future. Now that I think about it....it is TOO FAR in the future!!!!!
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Good to hear it's fixed! Did they happen to let you look at the old ATF fluid. I'm curious what the color was after 57k miles.
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@Hawkstang: The original fluid was replaced when I first took the car in in July. I never asked then, so its long gone.

@Robostang: because I'm crazy, I'm going to try to get my replacement hood done before the cruise too...have a local shop picked out and everything.
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@Robostang: because I'm crazy, I'm going to try to get my replacement hood done before the cruise too...have a local shop picked out and everything.
Sweet tym. Can't wait to see it. Which one are you getting?
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Planning to go with the Cervinis Type IV Ram Air hood in fiberglass. The paint/install price the shop is quoting would make the total cost of the hood only $50 more than if I ordered one prepainted and installed it myself.

Anybody need a stock hood with bubbling (but not flaking) paint? Otherwise I'm sticking the thing in a dumpster...LOL.
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That's a great choice. I hope you have it done before the cruise!


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Planning to go with the Cervinis Type IV Ram Air hood in fiberglass. The paint/install price the shop is quoting would make the total cost of the hood only $50 more than if I ordered one prepainted and installed it myself.

Anybody need a stock hood with bubbling (but not flaking) paint? Otherwise I'm sticking the thing in a dumpster...LOL.
Mine has the same problem, its next on the list to replace.
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^ Yeah. The factory hoods are poo.
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aluminum should be worth a visit to the salvage yard, and an excuse to buy a truck to make it possible
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Well, looks like I may have a slow ATF leak from either the back of the pan or the tail housing. Notice stains on the driveway and some red drops hanging off the trans pan bolts. Have a tray underneath now to verify, then it may be visit #3 to this "top rated" shop.
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Sorry to hear about that. I can feel your pain about constant taking back your car.
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Well, looks like I may have a slow ATF leak from either the back of the pan or the tail housing. Notice stains on the driveway and some red drops hanging off the trans pan bolts. Have a tray underneath now to verify, then it may be visit #3 to this "top rated" shop.

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Ugh indeed. I first noticed the stains about 3 weeks ago at my folks' place, but thought it was from a work truck that had been parked there for a couple of days. Just put it all together today when I noticed more stains and then the red droplets.

If it's just a seal or two, should be a quick fix, and I'll insist that the shop be only too happy to repair for free and comp a rental for the day(s).

EDIT: Checked the spot where I usually park overnight, and there is an 18" stain right under where the transmission would be when the car is parked. Have some cardboard there now after parking the car; I think the leak is probably most apparent when the trans is up to temperature. I wonder how much total fluid has been lost (probably not much). Nonetheless, I see some free labor being done on my car in the very near future.

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Any update on this Tym? I was really hoping that your Trans issue was done.

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Update is they are replacing a planetary gear, bearing, and a few other assorted parts totaling another $1300...this is getting expensive.
Collect an oil sample from the transmission and send it to be analyzed in a lab before you take that transmission apart again. This is an extremely useful method of knowing what is wearing out inside, considering there are a couple different metals used for various bearings/gears/rails and whatnot.

Im tellin ya man. The guys in the labs can be extremely useful in diagnosing these things just by looking at what is in your oil. Its pretty amazing
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Well, looks like I may have a slow ATF leak from either the back of the pan or the tail housing. Notice stains on the driveway and some red drops hanging off the trans pan bolts. Have a tray underneath now to verify, then it may be visit #3 to this "top rated" shop.
Is this with your aluminum driveshaft on, or the stock one? Some of those clearances for aftermarket parts are off just enough to not integrate nicely with the OEM stuff
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Is this with your aluminum driveshaft on, or the stock one? Some of those clearances for aftermarket parts are off just enough to not integrate nicely with the OEM stuff
Aluminum. Shunc has my stocker. The shop installed the DS about a week before their latest repair, and it looks like the leak didn't start until shortly after the repair.

It's a good thought, though...will keep it in mind when I'm at the shop.

Have a tray lined with white paper under the car...will check it shortly.

EDIT: After 5.5 hrs, I have about one ledger sized piece of paper saturated with ATF. The leak is definitely getting worse. I will take it to the shop Wed AM. They wanted it later in the week, but I insisted. They also agreed to comp a rental of the repair takes any length of time.

The schedule for installing my Cervinis hood has been blown out of the water.
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Aluminum. Shunc has my stocker. The shop installed the DS about a week before their latest repair, and it looks like the leak didn't start until shortly after the repair.

It's a good thought, though...will keep it in mind when I'm at the shop.

Have a tray lined with white paper under the car...will check it shortly.

EDIT: After 5.5 hrs, I have about one ledger sized piece of paper saturated with ATF. The leak is definitely getting worse. I will take it to the shop Wed AM. They wanted it later in the week, but I insisted. They also agreed to comp a rental of the repair takes any length of time.

The schedule for installing my Cervinis hood has been blown out of the water.
Good luck and keep us posted. Is this a tranny shop or do-it-all shop? Fwiw I believe strongly in taking my cars to a tranny shop for anything tranny related... Too many horror stories like yours from the non-specialists.

If they put too little or too much or the wrong fluid in it can damage your tranny. I'm guessing they didnt replace the gasket or didnt get it on right when they dropped the pan... Hopefully.
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Funny thing is I'm using a transmission shop (they do other stuff too now but their main line is transmissions), in business for over 50 years. Scores of A and ***** reviews on Angie's List, Google, Yelp, and the like...so I was expecting better.
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Funny thing is I'm using a transmission shop (they do other stuff too now but their main line is transmissions), in business for over 50 years. Scores of A and ***** reviews on Angie's List, Google, Yelp, and the like...so I expect better.
Damn bro, that is some bad luck. Covered all your bases and STILL got the shaft! Lol
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Damn bro, that is some bad luck. Covered all your bases and STILL got the shaft! Lol
And we ain't talking driveshafts here!
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Is the 2016 Camaro available yet?
Will the real Mustang please roll forward.
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