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Old 08-25-2015, 07:20 PM   #106
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So ever since I got my car back from the body shop after purchasing it, I felt something was off with the paint. Well what do you know, the shop half-assed it. Instead of painting the entire panels which i PAID them to do, the taped off areas and spot painted it. I had a 2nd body shop give their opinion. They went over the entire car with me. It's soo bad that you can actually see fairly easily where the OEM paint ends, and where the shop's paint begins.

On top of that, where they taped off, is peeling now. So I spoke with the owner of the body shop. They are going to redo almost the entire car for no additional charge. So instead of Spark Plugs this weekend, I have to drop it back off at the body shop.

The owner seemed like a really nice guy and gave me his personal cell to call if I had any more issues. He is going to personally inspect the car with me Saturday. Just sucks going through this.
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Owner sounds like he might have hired some guys who he needs to have a talking with and possibly dock some pay. That's really ****ty but hopefully it all gets repainted properly.
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:37 PM   #108
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Owner sounds like he might have hired some guys who he needs to have a talking with and possibly dock some pay. That's really ****ty but hopefully it all gets repainted properly.
Thanks. Yea i mentioned the guy's name who did the work i case he wants to talk to him "privately". Lol. (Yea i name dropped that mofo)

But i didnt know paint/body work but after going over the car with the 2nd body shop, the guy was nice enough to educate me on what all to look for and such.
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ALWAYS double check that they are properly gapped. There have been plenty of times where they say they come gapped, and I end up having to redo them
+1 on this comment. You don't have to bump a plug very hard to change the gap. It is not uncommon at all for a "pre gapped" plug to be off significantly.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:25 PM   #110
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Alrighty. So I have all my plugs gapped at .51-.52 since the recommended gap is .49-.53.

I have been trying to tackle this during my breaks today. So far, I removed the STB, Engine Cover, and Upper Intake Manifold. I think it should be downhill from here.

Upon removing the upper manifold. I examined it AND the lower one. Without a catch can and 100k miles, these things are FILTHY! I cleaned the lower one and will be cleaning the upper one on my lunch break. Then when my shift ends, I will be knocking out the plugs.

Love Fridays. I get to work from home.

By doing this, I recommend a catch can to anyone who does not have one yet. Even if it only helps a little.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:28 PM   #111
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This is just part of the upper one. Nice coat of gunk.
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Sorry to hear about the paint issues man. Glad your getting taken care of by the owner. Remember that fresh paint should not be waxed for up to 6months.


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Make that 30days. Apparently the most common recommendation is no way or sealer of any kind for the first 30 days. Have to allow the paint to gas out. (Cure properly)


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Spark plugs have been changed and upper intake manifold and tb are reinstalled. Lunch break ended so will reconnect everything else in a few hours.
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Spark plugs have been changed and upper intake manifold and tb are reinstalled. Lunch break ended so will reconnect everything else in a few hours.
Well looks like the old plug had a much larger gap.
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Yea, I can't find anything for our 3.7s :/ Just need the gap specs at this point to be 100% sure.

is the gap not listed on underhood emission sticker?
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Gap was in the owners manual. .49-.53 is the recommended gap range.
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Well looks like the old plug had a much larger gap.
That's why you have to get new every couple years.
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Old 08-28-2015, 02:56 PM   #119
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Yea I wouldn't trust them to go 100k miles or w/e the recommended change interval is. I would say 30-40k miles.

I used to change them every 30k on my 3000GT.

The only challenge with changing the plugs is the Texas heat.
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Back when the plugs were easily accessible I used to take them out, clean them, regap them, then put them back in.
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So reconnected everything and took the car for a drive. Soo much better. Idles smooth and better acceleration. Glad I did this myself. If i took it in, i'd be robbing myself and they wouldnt have cleaned the manifolds. I imagine that helped also.
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The belts look new(ish) so that is a minor plus.
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So for this job, I used/had:

New intake manifold gasket
New throttle body gasket
Dielectric grease
Anti seize gel
6 spark plugs gapped between .49 and .53
5/8 magnetic socket for the spark plugs
Carb cleaner and towels for the manifolds
Compressed air for debris
8mm socket wrench for the bolts
13mm socket for the STB bolts
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Also, i just read in the owners manual that the fuel filter on these 3.7s are in the fuel tank? And that they never need changed. In case anyone wants to know.
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Also, i just read in the owners manual that the fuel filter on these 3.7s are in the fuel tank? And that they never need changed. In case anyone wants to know.
Yeah, if you remove the rear seats, you can see two black rubber things that probably are removed access to the senders...the filter might be accessible that way too. I wouldn't believe the fuel filter is a lifetime part any more than I would believe the manual's replacement interval for spark plugs.
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So for this job, I used/had:

New intake manifold gasket
New throttle body gasket
Dielectric grease
Anti seize gel
6 spark plugs gapped between .49 and .53
5/8 magnetic socket for the spark plugs
Carb cleaner and towels for the manifolds
Compressed air for debris
8mm socket wrench for the bolts
13mm socket for the STB bolts
I don't see a torque wrench listed. But I won't tell.
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Lol when you go to tighten the spark plugs, they only go so far. If you keep tightening them, its very obvious you will wreck something.

2nd day driving the car and it is still running like a champ.
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Lol when you go to tighten the spark plugs, they only go so far. If you keep tightening them, its very obvious you will wreck something.

2nd day driving the car and it is still running like a champ.
Wrong, you need a torque wrench when doing plugs especially ones in aluminum heads. They are only supposed to go a hair past hand tight and if yours are overtightened they could be at risk of blowing out or the next time you go to do the plugs you might find a piece of thread on one of them if you went too far.
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^Interesting pic...hadn't realized it's only 1/3 turn from 0 to 47 ft-lb!
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Quarter turn is 47ft lbs. Way way too tight

1/8 turn is even way too tight. This is why I always say use a torque wrench on plugs but what do I know?

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