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Old 12-22-2015, 07:48 PM   #1
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Supercharger?

Will a 2013 GT500 Supercharger fit a 2014 Mustang v6 ?

If so what do i need to modify or buy for it to work?


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Oh boy. Who wants to touch this one. I'm calling on the all mighty voltwings.


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No way!
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Supercharger?

Yup and the headers will also


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Since voltwings has not gotten to this yet. To put it short.

No

The supercharger from a 5.0 will not work on a 3.7

There are a few different company's online that do produce full complete kits for the 3.7 however

Paxton and pro charger are generally the two used if I'm not mistaken.

These kits are not cheap and they should be tuned by a dyno runner who specializes in the 3.7.

There's a lot and a lot of things that can go wrong it these are not 100% tuned safely for the motor. While these motors will take a lot of abuse. A bad tune will fry the motor asap. Just ask alrefire. He fried a motor due to bad tune on a lpf turbo kit. Big difference between turbos and superchargers.
However a bad tune will produce the same results in both cases.




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I give up. Lol. U guys are either going to cost him a lot of money or scare him away.
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Just wondering, this guy selling the supercharger said it will fit with an adaptor. Knew it was fishy just wanted to make sure hehe


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Supercharger?

If the adaptor is an engine swap then yes it will fit.


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If the adaptor is an engine swap then yes it will fit.


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A Centrifugal supercharger would be compatible with your car.


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If the adaptor is an engine swap then yes it will fit.


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Would be better than trying to mess with boost on a car that was not ment for it.
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Is there a roots style supercharger for the 3.7l?
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No roots or Twin screw blower will fit this car. The 5.x motors have a 90* separation between the banks, the 3.7 only has 60*, there physically isnt enough room. I feel like we should have covered that enough times for it to be common knowledge by this point lol.
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I am going to be the ******* engineer in the room by saying the following.

There IS a way to make that supercharger work on the 3.7, but it involves a LOT of custom designed components. First, vertical clearance must be addressed. You have two options, look for room at the top by redesigning the hood with a higher cowl for extra top clearance. Option two is to convert the engine to a dry sump oiling system with a remote reservoir, and lower the engine by the height of the oil pan (the transmission pan and cooling fins may need redesign for clearance purposes, this will require a new shift linkage and transmission rear mount, and possibly a true two piece driveshaft depending on final angle, and may still require a higher hood cowl, and is not inexpensive).
Once the clearance has been created, then you need to design a mounting bracket for the compressor (simple).
Now for the bit that is really complicated. You have to design and build your own intake plenum and runners. It would take me months of design, prototyping, and testing to get this to flow properly, and package correctly.
Belt path is inconsequential, but me being me, I do like to overcomplicate things, and I would not want to have the boost at all times. To allow for this, I would either find or design a clutched pulley that is electronically controlled.

I have covered a few of the basic design challenges involved with this project (this is by no means a comprehensive list, but rather an overview of some major issues you will have to troubleshoot). Bottom line is that while it is doable (in all honesty, few things are not doable), it is prohibitively expensive.
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Or you could just buy it, send it here and I'll test it out! Just playin bro, kinda.
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I am going to be the ******* engineer in the room by saying the following.

There IS a way to make that supercharger work on the 3.7, but it involves a LOT of custom designed components. First, vertical clearance must be addressed. You have two options, look for room at the top by redesigning the hood with a higher cowl for extra top clearance. Option two is to convert the engine to a dry sump oiling system with a remote reservoir, and lower the engine by the height of the oil pan (the transmission pan and cooling fins may need redesign for clearance purposes, this will require a new shift linkage and transmission rear mount, and possibly a true two piece driveshaft depending on final angle, and may still require a higher hood cowl, and is not inexpensive).
Once the clearance has been created, then you need to design a mounting bracket for the compressor (simple).
Now for the bit that is really complicated. You have to design and build your own intake plenum and runners. It would take me months of design, prototyping, and testing to get this to flow properly, and package correctly.
Belt path is inconsequential, but me being me, I do like to overcomplicate things, and I would not want to have the boost at all times. To allow for this, I would either find or design a clutched pulley that is electronically controlled.

I have covered a few of the basic design challenges involved with this project (this is by no means a comprehensive list, but rather an overview of some major issues you will have to troubleshoot). Bottom line is that while it is doable (in all honesty, few things are not doable), it is prohibitively expensive.

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Waste gates are the easy road. Why not use and electronic clutch Pully. Makes sense to me.

Slap some fairy dust in the intake while your at it
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Just wondering, this guy selling the supercharger said it will fit with an adaptor. Knew it was fishy just wanted to make sure hehe


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Did you find it on Craigslist? I saw one on the local craigslist here, probably the same one you saw.
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When I was at a shop doing my exhaust I had a mechanic tell me I should put a twin screw on I told him it'd be a pain in the *** cause how narrow the engine is he simple said cut a big *** hole in the hood like a muscle car and plop that baby on there, although it sounds kinda nuts it would be pretty funny to have a v6 with a supercharger and intake scoop coming out of the hood, also probably piss off a lot of classics fans

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Also I think super six motorsports announced they were finishing up on a new plenum for the 3.7 if I'm not mistaken? I've heard of the idea of using the ginetta g55 intake (bad idea) but seems like those are options other than the centerfugal supercharger

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Pro charger would be the best plan if you have $5500.00 just lying around.
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Spray it. Or turbo. Leave the procharger at the store.

Come to Houston and for $5,500 I will have your car ALOT faster then the same amount of $ for a procharger.


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Thank God super six motorsports is 30 minutes away lol. I'm going to try and get a nitrous kit installed soon. But serious question, can I spray and turbo at the same time because super six has different forging packages for turbo and supercharge/nitrous?


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Actually there is a guy working on making the adapter to fit a roots sc on this engine. He's still testing and figuring some stuff out but he says once he has it complete he will sell kits


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But serious question, can I spray and turbo at the same time because super six has different forging packages for turbo and supercharge/nitrous?
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No reason you can't have nitrous and a turbo and it's actually pretty common on cars running larger turbos to help compensate for turbo lag. Just make sure the engine can handle the power.


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Worked for these guys.
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I think that you will be the first one to try boost plus nitrous. I will be watching to see how you fare. The 4.0 couldn't handle it, many tried only to blow up.
Definitely not the first. Killer6 was turbo'ed and spraying a 100shot pretty successfully if I remember correctly.

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Definitely not the first. Killer6 was turbo'ed and spraying a 100shot pretty successfully if I remember correctly.

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I don't think he was on a stock engine though.

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Cylinder pressure is cylinder pressure, regardless of where it comes from.

If a 3.7 is safe to say 600 whp for the sake of example, you can get there with any combination: 450 whp from turbo and 150 from nitrous, 500 whp from turbo and 100 from nitrous, 575 whp from turbo and 25 whp from nitrous.... it makes no difference what you run to get to a certain power level, a motor is going to let go when it does regardless of what got it there.
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