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Old 01-28-2016, 09:38 PM   #1
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Is the procharger worth it?

I currently have a 2014 Mustang V6 Automatic.

Is it worth installing a procharger or should i trade it in for another 2014 5.0?

I started financing this vehicle 5 months ago, and still owe $16k.

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Oh boy! Here we go again. 😲. Why do you want to supercharge? What are your goals? SC will run you around 7k with install. Maybe a little less.

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I just want to know, if i should trade it in or get a 5.0 .
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Oh boy! Here we go again. 😲. Why do you want to supercharge? What are your goals? SC will run you around 7k with install. Maybe a little less.

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You're nicer than me, i'd have told him to search for the million other threads exactly like this one.

Simple answer is this:
If you want the procharger to have fun, yes, it is worth it.

If you want the procharger because you think you will be hurting the feelings of GTs, then you will be disappointed and it will not be worth it. That's it.
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I just want to know, if i should trade it in or get a 5.0 .

Yes.

Here is a summary of what you will find in several other threads.

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Sureeee it's worth it lol.


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You're nicer than me, i'd have told him to search for the million other threads exactly like this one.



Simple answer is this:

If you want the procharger to have fun, yes, it is worth it.



If you want the procharger because you think you will be hurting the feelings of GTs, then you will be disappointed and it will not be worth it. That's it.

I have to agree with him, and I actually planning on dropping a lot of money on my car. If you want to just have some fun then do it. But don't expect to dust any 5.0's


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I just want to know, if i should trade it in or get a 5.0 .
That's gonna depend on what your goals are with the car? What are you looking for?

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You're nicer than me, i'd have told him to search for the million other threads exactly like this one.

Simple answer is this:
If you want the procharger to have fun, yes, it is worth it.

If you want the procharger because you think you will be hurting the feelings of GTs, then you will be disappointed and it will not be worth it. That's it.
Ha ha ha. I'm just super nice. Lol.

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I just want to know, if i should trade it in or get a 5.0 .
What kind of loss you looking at if you trade it in? How much more are you gonna owe for a 5.0. Why do you want a 5.0? What's wrong with your 3.7? What don't you like about your 3.7?

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Well if he wants a procharger he obviously wants more power/speed. Which he will get... but he'll also get his doors blown off by a 5.0 with exhaust and tune and that's it.
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What kind of loss you looking at if you trade it in? How much more are you gonna owe for a 5.0. Why do you want a 5.0? What's wrong with your 3.7? What don't you like about your 3.7?

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Since i just started financing my car 5 months ago, i probably end up owing 1k plus the cost of a 5.0 . And i found a 5.0 for $22.7k which will be $23.7k plus interest and taxes.

I just want something faster, but idk if It's worth the extra money for the insurance and probably extra $150 a month for the car payment
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Is the procharger worth it?

Unfortunately if you don't know then how are we supposed to know? At the end of the day it's your money and do what you want if you can afford it. I bought a v6 instead of a 5.0 because it gets better mpgs and I don't really have time to go to the track anymore. Ever now and then I consider trading up but then realize I can't remember the last time my v6 saw past 6k rpms so if I traded to a GT I would likely never go past 4 k and never use the majority of the hp driving it on the street.

If you race the car or enjoy the sound of a v8 and it makes you happy go for it as you only live once. But just remember there will always be someone faster. If you trade up there will be s/c'ed 5.0s, and if you add s S/C then there will be ones with built motors running higher boost, etc. I love seeing how well 5.0s perform but for me personally 420 hp is overkill for a street car and 300 is more fun to play around with unless your at a track. Again, all comes down to what your using the car for.


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Going to the dealer tomorrow to test drive the 5.0s
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Unfortunately if you don't know then how are we supposed to know? At the end of the day it's your money and do what you want if you can afford it. I bought a v6 instead of a 5.0 because it gets better mpgs and I don't really have time to go to the track anymore. Ever now and then I consider trading up but then realize I can't remember the last time my v6 saw past 6k rpms so if I traded to a GT I would likely never go past 4 k and never use the majority of the hp driving it on the street.

If you race the car or enjoy the sound of a v8 and it makes you happy go for it as you only live once. But just remember there will always be someone faster. If you trade up there will be s/c'ed 5.0s, and if you add s S/C then there will be ones with built motors running higher boost, etc. I love seeing how well 5.0s perform but for me personally 420 hp is overkill for a street car and 300 is more fun to play around with unless your at a track. Again, all comes down to what your using the car for.


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Great points, since the OP plans on going to a dealership today and test driving one, I'm confident that will seal the deal to buy the 5.0.

If he could afford it and having a v8 is really important to him so he doesn't get his balls busted for having a v6 Mustang, then I think he should trade the car in and buy the 5.0.

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I currently have a 2014 Mustang V6 Automatic.

Is it worth installing a procharger or should i trade it in for another 2014 5.0?

I started financing this vehicle 5 months ago, and still owe $16k.

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If you have base 2.73/auto and you demand to keep your warantee, it is worth every penny for 5.0, as the base 2.73/auto/V6 is a total dog out of the hole. The AWD fusion (2.0 ECO) I just got as a daily would dog the crap out my v6 stang across an intersection, easy (after that obviously stang would blow on by).

If you have a 3.31 gear (or perf package), will not be nearly the difference and may not be worth the loss of money and mileage over the V6.

Also, if not that worried about warrantee, you could put a set of 3.55's in and I'd guess the v6 would be more than adequate for most.

In my case, I tried to even have ford put in the 3.31, but they said even though it was factory option, I would have to use a tuner to reprogram for the gear (this was downs ford, which is (or was) a huge FMS dealer and does a lot of aftermarket installs). I figured once I used a tuner, even for just gear ratio, ford might not believe me and thought I tuned the car if anything in engine/trans effed up.

When ford put huge rebates on the 14 GT's, it was too tempting not to trade up (helped that I got 14 V6 base for 19,2K from Koons and traded for 18 at a different dealer).

So need more info on what exactly you have and what your use and concerns (warrantee) are.
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Riddle me this....why did you buy a V6?


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Just upgrade to the 5.0 you'll be happier and have more mods you can do, annddd more power!
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Pay the V6 off, and by that time you may have a different perspective on what you really want--time works wonders. Next time get the damned GT!
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Happier?? Then you can super charge your v8???? Lol! You bought what u could afford....enjoy it! Put a few mods on it. Breathe, enjoy it!


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I have a 2013 with the PP (manual), and I love the car but I do have some mods plus the 3.31's that came on the car so I'm not looking at the Procharger at the moment. But since at least 75 percent of Mustang owners never mod their cars, how do you figure that a boosted V6 won't upset a few 5.0 or Camaro SS owners? Stock 3.7's dyno at just under 300 hp to the rear wheels. So with a 150 hp increase the 3.7 will be around 440 to the rear wheels. So again, how is it this won't suprise a few V8's?
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This topic is so beat to death....you may beat a few stock GT's....so what's your point?? Does that make spending 7- 10 G worth it? Then do it!


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I currently have a 2014 Mustang V6 Automatic.

Is it worth installing a procharger or should i trade it in for another 2014 5.0?

I started financing this vehicle 5 months ago, and still owe $16k.

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If you're looking for something faster get the 5.0. Then down the road throw supercharger on it. You're obviously not happy with your V6 so don't think too much into it


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I have a 2013 with the PP (manual), and I love the car but I do have some mods plus the 3.31's that came on the car so I'm not looking at the Procharger at the moment. But since at least 75 percent of Mustang owners never mod their cars, how do you figure that a boosted V6 won't upset a few 5.0 or Camaro SS owners? Stock 3.7's dyno at just under 300 hp to the rear wheels. So with a 150 hp increase the 3.7 will be around 440 to the rear wheels. So again, how is it this won't suprise a few V8's?
Do you happen to have a dyno sheet of a stock 3.7 putting down close to 300 at the wheels? Because there is no way that is happening. Stock has 305 HP assuming a 15-20% drivetrain loss that puts you in the 250-260 range which is what every stock dyno sheet I've seen showed. People with full bolt ons and tune are happy to see 300 at the wheels and alot of them I've seen are in the 290's.

With a supercharged V6 will likely beat a stock 5.0 or SS depending on the driver but they definitely have more torque so even if you do win you will not blow them out of the water. Consider most 5.0s or SS's at the track are not going to be stock if they have basic bolt on's they will once again be on top. You also have to consider you will need tires, suspension, etc. to put the power to the ground as there is no way 215/ 225 tires are going to hook 400 hp. Realistically to have a balanced supercharged V6 you will spending at least 10K+ especially if your paying for installation and tune.
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Procharger is worth it for some!

Not trying to pick a fight. It just is not true that with that kind of power that some 5.0's, but more preferably, a few BMWAUDIMERC fan boys might get a nice surprise! Not sure about $10K cost either. I can do it for 5700 myself. Lastly, my car weighed 3440 at the scales. Add 40 lbs of Procharger and I'm still below 3500 lbs. 440 to the wheels at 3500 lbs equals FUN TIME!
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Remember the PP already has 19 inch Pirellis and GT suspension. 425 hp to the wheels out of the box is what I hear with the Procharger. 200 lbs lighter car with over 400 to the wheels will surprise 75 percent of v8 sporty cars at a quick stop light pull. Track is a different story unless you are talking a road course. In that situation I feel my car would surprise a higher percentage of sporty v8 owners. I was at Homestead road coarse with my lightly tuned PP and already surprised some 5.0 (and Shelby) owners at a recent track day. We're we Killin it? No. But I got some 'wow' comments from fellow club members during the cool down breaks.
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Remember the PP already has 19 inch Pirellis and GT suspension. 425 hp to the wheels out of the box is what I hear with the Procharger. 200 lbs lighter car with over 400 to the wheels will surprise 75 percent of v8 sporty cars at a quick stop light pull. Track is a different story unless you are talking a road course. In that situation I feel my car would surprise a higher percentage of sporty v8 owners. I was at Homestead road coarse with my lightly tuned PP and already surprised some 5.0 (and Shelby) owners at a recent track day. We're we Killin it? No. But I got some 'wow' comments from fellow club members during the cool down breaks.
425hp....and 100 less torque.

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Again I'm not talking about Drag Strip action

Again I am not talking about Drag Strips where there is 'always a faster guy'!

I'm just trying to point out that it's not all 'doom and gloom' like some are saying regarding the 3.7 with a Procharger.

I own my car outright so for me its $5700 and done since I can do it myself.

These cars are putting down some real horsepower but some would have a person believe that 'All 5.0's are gods and no 3.7 will ever beat one which is silly'!





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"You really have to give credit where it’s due. The ProCharger guys took a bone stock 3.7L Mustang with only 8 lbs of boost, make 427 hp to the wheels, which means its approaching 500 at the crank. All with a centrifugal supercharger kit that only takes a day to install and costs in the $5k range."
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The kit is 5700. You will need a tuner and a dyno tune (around $1000), a new drive shaft unless you want to risk snapping yours (around $800). That doesn't include tires or suspension which will be needed to get the most of the hp since I assume your no going to want to have 400+ hp with anything less then a 275 tire. That doesn't include the misc other parts for install or add ons such as gauges, etc. (assuming you do the install yourself).

Again I drive a v6 and love it but although a supercharged v6 is fun I realize it is still at best equal to a 5.0.

As far as drag strip vs road course hp means very little on a road course. I've seen guys in 120 hp Miatas that run better times then corvettes, vipers, etc.


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Again I am not talking about Drag Strips where there is 'always a faster guy'!

I'm just trying to point out that it's not all 'doom and gloom' like some are saying regarding the 3.7 with a Procharger.

I own my car outright so for me its $5700 and done since I can do it myself.

These cars are putting down some real horsepower but some would have a person believe that 'All 5.0's are gods and no 3.7 will ever beat one which is silly'!





Here's a quote from one site:

"You really have to give credit where it’s due. The ProCharger guys took a bone stock 3.7L Mustang with only 8 lbs of boost, make 427 hp to the wheels, which means its approaching 500 at the crank. All with a centrifugal supercharger kit that only takes a day to install and costs in the $5k range."
Camper, I like you own my 3.7 outright and since that's the case if I were debating SC or 5.0, I would just spend the 6k and SC. Buy the time you sell your 3.7 and buy another used 5.0 with similar millage you may very well be out over 10k and that doesn't include the money you spent to mod your 3.7.

6k and you will have a 400 rwhp plus pony and that's with 8 pounds boost. Not gonna set the world on fire with torque but so be it. Not gonna be the fastest and won't be the slowest. I personally don't care about the V8 sound enough to spend all the extra loot but that's just me.

Hey, my father owns a 2014 CS, 5.0 and drives the car like a f ing grandpa on a Sunday stroll. His a$$ ain't using any of the 425 HP but he doesn't care. He said if he was gonna buy a mustang, it was going to be a V8 regardless. Rock out.

Buy what makes you happy and what's important to that person. If owning a 5.0 makes someone feel important to the car world and give themselves a chubby saying they own a 5.0 instead of a 3.7, super cool. Nothing wrong with that. If people want to play the HP wars and 1/4 mile time wars , great. I say super cool.

HP and track times are like chasing the end of the rainbow and money. No matter how much you have, many want more. Give me more, more more more. Faster, faster, faster!






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I already have a 4 inch DSS Driveshaft, Vogtland 1 inch lower (and stiffer) suspension, UPR upper control arm, Steeda upper strut mounts, Steeda CAI, cat back and BAMA 93 tune. The car is well behaved. I agree that the hp wars can go on infinitely. What I don't agree with is the rubber stamp sentiment from some that all the work on a 3.7 just brings it up to stock 5.0 territory which is BS. I've driven a 5.0 and it's fast to be sure but stock (non performance pack) 5.0's are more nose heavy in turns. Ford (and many others) have had great success on race tracks by boosting lighter cars and that's what I'm attempting to point out.
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Since i just started financing my car 5 months ago, i probably end up owing 1k plus the cost of a 5.0 . And i found a 5.0 for $22.7k which will be $23.7k plus interest and taxes.

I just want something faster, but idk if It's worth the extra money for the insurance and probably extra $150 a month for the car payment
If you are doing a trade save 4-5 grand to put as a down payment to equalize things.
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Not trying to pick a fight. It just is not true that with that kind of power that some 5.0's, but more preferably, a few BMWAUDIMERC fan boys might get a nice surprise! Not sure about $10K cost either. I can do it for 5700 myself. Lastly, my car weighed 3440 at the scales. Add 40 lbs of Procharger and I'm still below 3500 lbs. 440 to the wheels at 3500 lbs equals FUN TIME!

I'm completely on board with you, but without any other supporting mods your looking at close to 410 whp. These cars don't get close to 300whp stock, it's more like 260.


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