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Old 02-24-2016, 10:34 AM   #36
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Bought new tires and I think I regret getting them.

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I understand that, but that fact has nothing to do with my statement. To me its like selling a car battery that lasts 2 years. Makes no sense.



Now if you want to talk economics, it makes perfect sense for the tire manufacturers.



And fwiw, I had a set of dunlops that came with a new kizashi and the grip was crap and they wore out in 24k. Friction is always a factor now matter what the tread pattern is.

I think it has everything to do with your statement: economics. There is a demand for sticky tires. Manufacturers exist to make products to meet demand. They make car batteries that last 7 years, but they cost more than ones that last two years; if you're proposing that all batteries last longer than two years, then the cost of batteries will go up. I got the tires I have because they came with the wheels. I expect them to last two years, or about 20k miles. It's a sports car, not a minivan. My local shop sells OE fit tires that are warranties for 50k. But the trade off is they will be hard, not as wide, and offer less traction. There is no perfect balance and you have to decide what's more important to you: fun, or longevity? My vote is fun.

If you know the secret to making a super sticky tire that will last 50k, you could be a millionaire...


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I think it has everything to do with your statement: economics. There is a demand for sticky tires. Manufacturers exist to make products to meet demand. They make car batteries that last 7 years, but they cost more than ones that last two years; if you're proposing that all batteries last longer than two years, then the cost of batteries will go up. I got the tires I have because they came with the wheels. I expect them to last two years, or about 20k miles. It's a sports car, not a minivan. My local shop sells OE fit tires that are warranties for 50k. But the trade off is they will be hard, not as wide, and offer less traction. There is no perfect balance and you have to decide what's more important to you: fun, or longevity? My vote is fun.

If you know the secret to making a super sticky tire that will last 50k, you could be a millionaire...


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Yeah you have a solid point. Potenza Poles will be my next tire! Hell I got winter wheels so I should still get 4 summers out of them.
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Yeah you have a solid point. Potenza Poles will be my next tire! Hell I got winter wheels so I should still get 4 summers out of them.

Damn, I was hoping you had the secret...

I have a second set of wheels and tires for road trips. No sense wearing out the tires on my 20" wheels when the tires on my 18" wheels offer a softer ride.


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Damn, I was hoping you had the secret...

I have a second set of wheels and tires for road trips. No sense wearing out the tires on my 20" wheels when the tires on my 18" wheels offer a softer ride.


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Yeah I wish I did, but sorry. Lol

You sound like myself, as we type I have my new summer wheels at the shop being mounted. I cant wait to get them on my pony. My wife says I buy wheels like women buy shoes. I shake my head when I look at how much I've spent at tirerack over the last 6 years.
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I think you may have missed my point, which is why even make a tire that will only last 2 years tops? Warranty or no warranty, that's just plain dumb.
High performance summer tires are not made with tread longevity in mind, it doesn't even matter how easy you are on them either. I bought Brembo wheels with the Pirelli P Zero's (220 tread wear rating) that had only 4k miles on them, for a previous Mustang v6 I had. Those tires were close to bald after 15k miles. The Pirelli P6 all seasons I just replace have 440 tread wear, and lasted me 35k miles. They might've had a little more use before I bought the car but who knows. They were already mounted on the green car when I bought it at 35k miles. Now it has over 70k miles.

If my Continentals hold up well, should be good for 45-50k miles of usage.
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I replaced the Zero's with BF Goodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S. They had one of the lowest track times, 30.30 seconds on their Slalom course and 400 tread life. Very happy with them. Tire rack did a nice test video for the class.
I got a set of these just after Thanksgiving and have turned out to be the best tire I think I've owned. They beat the hell out of the Pzero Neros that came with my car by far. The Tire Rack reviews were off the scale. Great tire for the Mustang
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