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Old 02-19-2016, 09:44 PM   #1
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Bought new tires and I think I regret getting them.

So I had some new rubber from tirerack installed today to replace the Pirelli P6 Four Seasons the previous owner installed. Continental ExtremeContact DWS06, 275/35/19 all around. I bought them based on the stellar reviews that they're getting on tirerack as performance all season tires. Well, they ride great, very smooth, very quiet, the new size is perfect for the 19x9.5 SVE Drifts, and based on treadwear rating they could last 50k miles, but here's the big complaint I have.

WEAK SIDEWALL!!

When I drive down the bypass at 70mph, and lightly jerk the steering wheel to the left or right, the response is extremely delayed, it takes half a second for my car to actually start turning. $1100 for new tires that makes my car feel like a boat, not happy about this.
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How long have you had them? What Pressure they at?
My Continental ExtremeContact DW 275/40R 19's took about 500 miles to break in. I am also running 38 pounds in the front and 36 pounds in the rear. Until they broke in they handled like crap and I have had almost 1.20 peaks on the built in G meter. They will get better.
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Only have around 40 miles on them as of today. I haven't checked the pressure but I expect the "good" shop that mounted/balanced them have put them at 35psi. The TPMS sensors will give a warning if any of them get below 30.

If they improve a bit after initial wear in, that's great. My other dilemma at the moment is finding a shop that can get my car onto an alignment rack, it's too low for the one I went to. I had to go back home for my low profile jack for them to just change the tires lol.
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I almost pulled the trigger on those exact tires but decided to go with winter tires and summer tires, since you tend to have to settle for worst of both worlds when you go all-season.

That said, when I got my winter tread on I had the exact same reaction as you... hit the interstate and went to pass someone and I about crapped myself. Literally felt like a boat. BUT... 3 months later and they aren't half as bad and frankly I barely notice it anymore.

I think the other poster is correct and you should give your tires a month to break in, chances are you will feel happy with your purchase. The good news is you should be glued to the road with those puppies!

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Only have around 40 miles on them as of today. I haven't checked the pressure but I expect the "good" shop that mounted/balanced them have put them at 35psi. The TPMS sensors will give a warning if any of them get below 30.

If they improve a bit after initial wear in, that's great. My other dilemma at the moment is finding a shop that can get my car onto an alignment rack, it's too low for the one I went to. I had to go back home for my low profile jack for them to just change the tires lol.
You are still driving on the release agent. I trust my presure guage, not the cheap one they have at the tire shop.

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I replaced the Zero's with BF Goodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S. They had one of the lowest track times, 30.30 seconds on their Slalom course and 400 tread life. Very happy with them. Tire rack did a nice test video for the class.
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I had continental tires on my and the wife's cars. wait after about 10,000 miles they look ready for a new set! They suck! The worst tires I've ever owned. They are extremely noisy rough handling to say the least. I tell ever one I meet that are looking for tires,any thing but continental!! ABC
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We had continentals on our Taurus and they sucked, loud and had to be replaced after 15k. Never again!

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Damn, I guess I had better replace mine, they have 15,000 miles on them, wear is straight across, no noise, rotated every 5000 miles with proper air pressure. Now the Nitto's on my wife's Explorer are noisy than crap and act like they are out of balance.
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I have the Continued ExtremeContact DW summer tire. They are "OK"...better grip than the factory Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires but mediocre steering feedback. They also wear out pretty fast.
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Have ProContacts on my 2014 Escape with 16K and they are more 50% worn and ride like rocks. Continentals are better than they were years ago, but behind the competition.
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I'll probably go with a set of Michelin's next, my wife has a set on her 14 Eco Fusion and they are great!
But these damn Pirelli's won't die lol. 30k and still look great, but noisy!

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I had to go back home for my low profile jack for them to just change the tires lol.
An auto shop without a low-profile jack?
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An auto shop without a low-profile jack?
I would trust their air guage too.

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Take them back

If you bought them at Discount Tire they have a 30 day satisfaction guarantee.

I would expect most tire dealers would have the same and be willing to work with you to get another brand you will like.

Michelins have always been an excellent tire for me in every respect, handling, wear, noise, etc.
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I could not get B.F.'s so I saw Bridgestone RE 760's on sale, I am happy so far. B.F. Goodrich on back-order?
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Only have around 40 miles on them as of today. I haven't checked the pressure but I expect the "good" shop that mounted/balanced them have put them at 35psi. The TPMS sensors will give a warning if any of them get below 30.

If they improve a bit after initial wear in, that's great. My other dilemma at the moment is finding a shop that can get my car onto an alignment rack, it's too low for the one I went to. I had to go back home for my low profile jack for them to just change the tires lol.
Can't say about the good pressure in these. But my TPMS gives warning when my tire pressure is about 25psi.

And I remember when I took my car back after tirerack completed installation, they told me the tires were inflated to 30 or 32 psi. At least mines were 32 psi.
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trust and verify...checking psi after getting tires is just something I do.
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Does anyone have any experience with the Potenza S-04 Pole Position? They get really high reviews on handling/performance but seem to wear quick... but with the middle range price they might be worth it.
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Does anyone have any experience with the Potenza S-04 Pole Position? They get really high reviews on handling/performance but seem to wear quick... but with the middle range price they might be worth it.
I'd like to know this too as I'm considering them for my next set of tires but am worried about the tread wear rating.
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If you want to replace tires every 20k with proper rotation then they are a good choice.
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How many miles do you guys put on your car annually? As much as I drive mine and my choice in tire sizing, strictly all seasons with around a 500 tread wear rating. Not spending a grand on summer tires every 12 months.
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I have a 2013 and went through the Original Pirelli in 18k, they were worn and loud at that point.
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I have a 2013 and went through the Original Pirelli in 18k, they were worn and loud at that point.
That is some serious BS. Are tire tread warranties the biggest scam on Earth or what? They shouldn't even be allowed to make a tire that only last 18k miles!!!
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30k on mine and still going strong, they are A/S.
They have been noisy since day one though.

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220 tread life is what you get from that type of tire.
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I have 255/40/19 continental conti-pros and freaking love them.

But to each their own. All depends on what you're looking for.

Myself, I'm looking for a comfortable ride, quiet, with good grip. That's what I've gotten.


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My original Pirelli all season 18 inch were replaced at 19,000 miles, bald. Yet i read where people are getting 40,000 miles or more with them. I see the Cooper RS3-A's i have now won't be doing much better
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That is some serious BS. Are tire tread warranties the biggest scam on Earth or what? They shouldn't even be allowed to make a tire that only last 18k miles!!!
The OEM tires on both the Performance Package V6 and the Brembo V8 were the Mercedes Spec Pirelli P-Zero summer only tires, their warranty
Treadlife Warranty: None Uniformity Warranty:1 Year / First 2/32" of wearWorkmanship & Materials Warranty:Unlimited Time / Free replacement first year or 2/32" wear, then prorated until 2/32" remaining depthManufacturer's Road Hazard Warranty:NoneManufacturer Warranty Brochureownload PDF
Normally when you get below a 400 tread life warranty is not what you are worried about. The tires I replaced mine with have a 340 tread life and no mileage warranty.
BTW I knew about the lack of warranty when I bought the car and the replacement tires.
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I replace my stock 18 tires at 20000. They still had some life left but not too much and didn't grip well. 5/32 left maybe.
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I replaced the pirelli's on mine at 34,000. about 3-4/32 left, loud and traction sucked! I got put General G-MAX AS-03 Tire 235/50ZR18SL 97W BW and love them so far! For how much I drive the A/S tires were the way to go for me.
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The OEM tires on both the Performance Package V6 and the Brembo V8 were the Mercedes Spec Pirelli P-Zero summer only tires, their warranty
Treadlife Warranty: None Uniformity Warranty:1 Year / First 2/32" of wearWorkmanship & Materials Warranty:Unlimited Time / Free replacement first year or 2/32" wear, then prorated until 2/32" remaining depthManufacturer's Road Hazard Warranty:NoneManufacturer Warranty Brochureownload PDF
Normally when you get below a 400 tread life warranty is not what you are worried about. The tires I replaced mine with have a 340 tread life and no mileage warranty.
BTW I knew about the lack of warranty when I bought the car and the replacement tires.
I think you may have missed my point, which is why even make a tire that will only last 2 years tops? Warranty or no warranty, that's just plain dumb.
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I think you may have missed my point, which is why even make a tire that will only last 2 years tops? Warranty or no warranty, that's just plain dumb.

Without going into a lot of textile engineering, it's basic trade offs and physics. People want grippy tires. Grip is caused by friction. Friction causes wear. More grip = more friction = more wear.


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Without going into a lot of textile engineering, it's basic trade offs and physics. People want grippy tires. Grip is caused by friction. Friction causes wear. More grip = more friction = more wear.


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Without going into a lot of textile engineering, it's basic trade offs and physics. People want grippy tires. Grip is caused by friction. Friction causes wear. More grip = more friction = more wear.


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I understand that, but that fact has nothing to do with my statement. To me its like selling a car battery that lasts 2 years. Makes no sense.

Now if you want to talk economics, it makes perfect sense for the tire manufacturers.

And fwiw, I had a set of dunlops that came with a new kizashi and the grip was crap and they wore out in 24k. Friction is always a factor now matter what the tread pattern is.
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