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Old 03-20-2016, 04:44 PM   #1
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Test drove a 15 Gt Premium Manual..

I will have to say...NOT INTERESTED!

(Currently I have a 3.7 manual 2014 base model)

First off I am so glad I decided to snag my 2014 v6 in July 2014 right before the new 15 models came out. I'm not going to bash all day about the new body style, it is nice looking, but I think ford is headed towards a sleeker market body style and going away with the ridged muscle car lines but that's another topic entirely.

After the test-drive at Gus Machado Ford here in Cutler bay, a 2015 5.0 in manual, this is a just a 'my thoughts' and first impressions on the new body style and overall change.

I walked in to the dealer and told the salesperson that I would curious as to what the new mustangs drove like and just wanted some impressions on drive ability, the live rear-axle and, the overall change from a 2014 to a 2015. I test drove a 2015 Premium Convertible in Burgundy 5.0 with a manual transmission. First impression of the inside was..top notch interior. So many more buttons and functions than my 14 base. Of course this would take getting used to but in today's age, a lot of controls are to be expected and even welcome with all the options available at the flick of a switch. I didn't focus too much on the interior and focused more on how the new 5.0 shaped up to the older body v6. Some would say that's like comparing apples to oranges but I will continue.

With the package included on the car, it had a 3.55 gear ratio and I believe the track pack included. Overall driving impressions on the 5.0 after doing a dig to 60 and a little bit of rev matching and feeling the car throughout the powerband...

Not that impressed. The salesman told me, and I quote, "Well you have a v6, of course this is a lot more power, were talking about 435 horsepower!" I then said, how about you test drive my car and then you will see what I mean.

Needless to say the 3.73's, with a 93 tune and CAI on my 14' did the trick and the salesman honestly thought I did something else to the engine he was not sure about. Now THAT put a smile on my face.

To be fair, the 5.0 is an excellent platform to work on and with a little nudge to 3.73 or 4.10 and maybe test driving a coupe vs convert would have sold me for potential...but I still can't beat paying 22k for my base and putting in only 2k more to give a 5.0 driver with no mods a question at their new car payment.

Just thought I would share my fun experience on anyone thinking about tempting the new 15/16/17 waters on even a 5.0 without putting at least some aftermarket thought into it.

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I do want to say if you test drove a 5.0 with 3.55s then it did not have the Track Pack. I did test drive one with the Track Pack and I would say they need a short throw shifter, tune, and a good set of mufflers to really enjoy. It did feel a tad sluggish, but any car from the dealer will feel that way. I could definitely feel all of the "potential" power the car had. Just gotta get that tune loaded. The 5.0 is great, no matter if it is a 11-16 car.

At this point, I have given up on a 5.0. I am just going to pay off my existing car and let the credit inquiries fall off my credit so I can apply for a house in 5-7 years.
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I will say that I love my 3,7 but your statement "but I still can't beat paying 22k for my base and putting in only 2k more to give a 5.0 driver with no mods a question at their new car payment." Is just false. How fast did you get the 5.0 up to because 60 is basically a 1-2 shift if your actually pushing a 5.0 to its full potential (which your average buyer will not do). Even with a tune I would imagine a 5.0 would easily be at least a second faster down the 1/4 then a 3.7.


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I have no idea why people feel the need to make these posts lol. I'm glad you thoroughly enjoy your v6. Honestly, I am. Don't take this the wrong way, but you're not going to make me question my car payment. I've got heated/cooled seats, a good sized navi screen, and enough horsepower to make my butt pucker. I'm quite satisfied with my purchase. And I don't have to deal with the typical, "oh it's just a v6" response. Which annoyed the hell out of me when i had a Sixxer.


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These threads always crack me up.

Listen, if you love your 3.7 and are happy with it then why are you going and test driving a 5.0?

I also agree with the statement above. There is no way that you got to actually enjoy the car on any test drive with a sales person in the car. A 5.0 wakes up after 3500+. My guess is you didn't crack 4000 at best. I would also put money on it that you never got more than 50% throttle.

I'm glad you like your car. But trying to convince us all that your tuned 3.7 and a set of gears makes your car as good as a new 5.0 is just silly.

By the way, I respect the hell out of the 3.7's. They are great motors, way better than previous year GT's when it comes to HP ect. But please 3.7 owners, quit making these threads trying to convince us all how you made the best choice ever by buying a 3.7 (and basing this around power to a 5.0). If it's because it does the trick for you, and you like it for xyz reason, cool. But stop trying to act like its going to mop the floor of a stock 5.0.

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Isn't this the 11-14 v6 section? I don't think he was trying to convince the 5.0 owners of anything. To the OP I agree as I did the same, but I test drove the 5.0 and 3.7 pretty hard. That's why when I hear the 5.0 guys hyping up their cars I just sit back and laugh. Don't get me wrong, the 5.0 is a great platform but y'all act like its a lambo compared to the 3.7.


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Isn't this the 11-14 v6 section? I don't think he was trying to convince the 5.0 owners of anything. To the OP I agree as I did the same, but I test drove the 5.0 and 3.7 pretty hard. That's why when I hear the 5.0 guys hyping up their cars I just sit back and laugh. Don't get me wrong, the 5.0 is a great platform but y'all act like its a lambo compared to the 3.7.


Yes it's in the V6 section...are we not allowed here?

I don't believe he was trying to convince 5.0 owners either. He is trying to convince himself.

I'm not hyping up my 5.0 and I don't think it's a lambo compared to a 3.7. When you are sitting back and laughing are you thinking about all that trouble you are going to as you build a 30k 3.7 to be the beast you desire it to be?

Don't get all butt hurt because I popped over into the v6 section and read this hilarious thread and responded.
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Yes it's in the V6 section...are we not allowed here?

I don't believe he was trying to convince 5.0 owners either. He is trying to convince himself.

I'm not hyping up my 5.0 and I don't think it's a lambo compared to a 3.7. When you are sitting back and laughing are you thinking about all that trouble you are going to as you build a 30k 3.7 to be the beast you desire it to be?

Don't get all butt hurt because I popped over into the v6 section and read this hilarious thread and responded.
After driving your 5.0, I can safely say that I am so glad I chose my 3.7! Gears & tune and I can easily say that it out performs on so many levels for a fraction of the price, ya feel me? LOL!!
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Glad your loving your car man, I loved the hell out of my sixxer. Even though I paid an arm and a couple organs for it with insurance, I wouldn't have had it any other way.

But gears, CAI, and tune do not put the Cyclone on par, or near the Coyote.

The salesman actually let me drive a 2011 5.0 with 55k miles and said "Feel the power on this one, then we can talk about if you want the 2014 white one". Oh boy did I feel it.

But again, glad you love the Cyclone. It gives the 4.6s and back a real good run.


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Isn't this the 11-14 v6 section? I don't think he was trying to convince the 5.0 owners of anything. To the OP I agree as I did the same, but I test drove the 5.0 and 3.7 pretty hard. That's why when I hear the 5.0 guys hyping up their cars I just sit back and laugh. Don't get me wrong, the 5.0 is a great platform but y'all act like its a lambo compared to the 3.7.

Sadly the 3.7 section isn't some magic section where bolt on 3.7s are faster then 5.0s. And it's easy to drive a slow/ quick car fast but an entirely different thing to drive a fast car fast. When you drive a 5.0 "pretty hard" how hard? A 5.0 with 3.55 gears with hit the following speeds at 6200 rpm and still has 800 rpms to redline. Point being if you "ran through the gears" and didn't double the speed limit you weren't "pushing it pretty hard".

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Yes it's in the V6 section...are we not allowed here?

I don't believe he was trying to convince 5.0 owners either. He is trying to convince himself.

I'm not hyping up my 5.0 and I don't think it's a lambo compared to a 3.7. When you are sitting back and laughing are you thinking about all that trouble you are going to as you build a 30k 3.7 to be the beast you desire it to be?

Don't get all butt hurt because I popped over into the v6 section and read this hilarious thread and responded.

It's funny how you think I was referring to you, when I wasn't even thinking about you lol nobody said you were hyping up your car it was a general statement. Trust me I'm not butt hurt either, but it's just funny that you always have something negative to say about sixxers like your trying to justify your purchase of the v8. To me it sounds like your butt hurt, your the main guy on this forum giving people a hard time for wanting to build their v6. If they wanted a v8, they would've bought one. WE ALL UNDERSTAND YOUR OPINION ON THE V6, you don't have to let it be known on every post.


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It's funny how you think I was referring to you, when I wasn't even thinking about you lol nobody said you were hyping up your car it was a general statement. Trust me I'm not butt hurt either, but it's just funny that you always have something negative to say about sixxers like your trying to justify your purchase of the v8. To me it sounds like your butt hurt, your the main guy on this forum giving people a hard time for wanting to build their v6. If they wanted a v8, they would've bought one. WE ALL UNDERSTAND YOUR OPINION ON THE V6, you don't have to let it be known on every post.


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Okay dude 🤔

Why I even bother is beyond me.

You continue to miss the point.
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I question why you bother too, I see your point clearly. But we don't need to hear it continually, trust me I'm pretty sure most ppl on this forum know how you feel.


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You guys are crazy. Us Mustang people are supposed to work together! Not compare d*** sizes. LMAO
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4 real! Guys get over it, our cars, both the 3.7s and 5.0s are bad *** cars!
Chances are with the new Camaro out now the 3.7 and 5.0 might be both replaced sooner than later so lets just enjoy them and stop this my dick is bigger then yours crap.

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Both great engines

I think the OP was trying to just say that he did like the way his car felt better when driving down the road.
With the 3.7 and the solid rear axle, of course the 2014 feels different.
The heavy nose and the independent suspension on the 2015 will feel way different.
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He really needs to have that V8 for a few days and get to know how it handles to really make a decision on weather it is something he wants to give up his 2014 for.

I personally test drove a 2015 GT when they first came out and although I did like it, I really did like my 2012 V6 better and still have it.
Just driving around the way I do, Both cars felt the same as far as fun driving goes. But, I gotta say, Floor that V8 at 45 MPH and hold on. Wow!
My V6 goes good but not like the V8.
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Even if I liked the 2015 better, I could not give up my 2012 because I love the way it looks and my Dog Mario would probably bite me if I ever got rid of "HIS" car.
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4 real! Guys get over it, our cars, both the 3.7s and 5.0s are bad *** cars!
Chances are with the new Camaro out now the 3.7 and 5.0 might be both replaced sooner than later so lets just enjoy them and stop this my dick is bigger then yours crap.

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I think the OP was trying to just say that he did like the way his car felt better when driving down the road.
With the 3.7 and the solid rear axle, of course the 2014 feels different.
The heavy nose and the independent suspension on the 2015 will feel way different.
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He really needs to have that V8 for a few days and get to know how it handles to really make a decision on weather it is something he wants to give up his 2014 for.

I personally test drove a 2015 GT when they first came out and although I did like it, I really did like my 2012 V6 better and still have it.
Just driving around the way I do, Both cars felt the same as far as fun driving goes. But, I gotta say, Floor that V8 at 45 MPH and hold on. Wow!
My V6 goes good but not like the V8.
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Even if I liked the 2015 better, I could not give up my 2012 because I love the way it looks and my Dog Mario would probably bite me if I ever got rid of "HIS" car.

Yea that is Mario's car that he bought with his retirement funds. He said if you ever traded that car in, he would be heart broken.

Yea when I test drove a 2015 GT, it was soo much easier to break the back end loose vs. my modded sixxer. For someone who has never driven a 5.0, it was an awesome new experience. I didn't go too crazy as I know it is dangerous trying to push a car that you are unaware of how exactly to handle the power.

For the most part, I was just learning the new features to be honest. The steering wheel telescopes in the new cars, which was cool. To put the car in reverse in the newer manuals, there is a ring on the shift knob that you pull up instead of pushing the shifter down and up.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the base models even have the Track Apps and stuff now? I did see it had the little LCD in the cluster.

Kind of made me jealous because a lot of the features I had to add to my 2014 base model, now comes standard on the 2015 base models. So that was pretty cool.
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Well, considering that a college kid in a Gen 4 V6 Camaro won the new STP class at Dixie this weekend over a smattering of V8 pony cars with double the power and more tire, my point that V8 does not automatically equal fast stands.
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Well, considering that a college kid in a Gen 4 V6 Camaro won the new STP class at Dixie this weekend over a smattering of V8 pony cars with double the power and more tire, my point that V8 does not automatically equal fast stands.

Yeah I bet all he had was a tune and a set of gears 😀👌🏻
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I will say that I love my 3,7 but your statement "but I still can't beat paying 22k for my base and putting in only 2k more to give a 5.0 driver with no mods a question at their new car payment." Is just false. How fast did you get the 5.0 up to because 60 is basically a 1-2 shift if your actually pushing a 5.0 to its full potential (which your average buyer will not do). Even with a tune I would imagine a 5.0 would easily be at least a second faster down the 1/4 then a 3.7.


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Its not tho. Seen PLENTY of cars making less power just destroy a car in the next lane making way more. Good example I always use are the GT500 guys who nutswing on 800hp dyno slips and then can't even run a 10 at the 1/4 mile. Not saying all of those owners but a LOT of them do.
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Its not tho. Seen PLENTY of cars making less power just destroy a car in the next lane making way more. Good example I always use are the GT500 guys who nutswing on 800hp dyno slips and then can't even run a 10 at the 1/4 mile. Not saying all of those owners but a LOT of them do.

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I chose a 2014 GT/CS over a 2015 - simply on looks. I could have had anything I wanted and I wanted the muscle car look - you wait 35 years for one - you get what you want. I wouldn't trade it for anything. It is just plain sexy looking! Plus I saved all that depreciation money the moment the previous owner drove it off the lot and it was a certified ford to boot - cheaper interest/ chance to buy extended 7 year bumper to bumper warranty. I love my car - added an Pioneer 8100 NEX with a Scosche kit and couldn't be better.
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I chose a 2014 GT/CS over a 2015 - simply on looks. I could have had anything I wanted and I wanted the muscle car look - you wait 35 years for one - you get what you want. I wouldn't trade it for anything. It is just plain sexy looking! Plus I saved all that depreciation money the moment the previous owner drove it off the lot and it was a certified ford to boot - cheaper interest/ chance to buy extended 7 year bumper to bumper warranty. I love my car - added an Pioneer 8100 NEX with a Scosche kit and couldn't be better.
Exactly. Got mine with 9k Miles on it. Saved a ton of money.

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Its not tho. Seen PLENTY of cars making less power just destroy a car in the next lane making way more. Good example I always use are the GT500 guys who nutswing on 800hp dyno slips and then can't even run a 10 at the 1/4 mile. Not saying all of those owners but a LOT of them do.
Oh I know trust me been there. Spinning isn't winning.

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I've driven both, I like my V6, and would prefer the V8. But, not at the $5-6K extra. $2-3K hell yeah.

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side note OP's thread/post seemed ok to me as others mentioned it's all good (even Chevy)
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Agree!!! I stopped adding power mods cause I could not do much with what I had. It's nice having it if the majority of it can be used. -


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it's easier to use all the power in my V6...that don't make it better than yours.

Oh wait, yes it does....ya wanna trade?
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