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Old 04-18-2016, 05:24 PM   #1
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2014 Exhaust Upgrade

Hey everyone, I have a 2014 V6 and am looking to upgrade the exhaust. I have narrowed it down to either the Borla ATAK or the Borla S-Type and am still unsure about axelback vs catback for it. I have read so many differing opinions on both this forum and others that I'm not really sure what to do with. I want something that has a deep and non-raspy sound but also has a decent volume to it.

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Flowmaster force ii axel back is a great option. Zero drone.


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If you want deep and no rasp go borla s type, if you only care about sound and not gaining any horsepower go axle backs, then if you want to make it louder get new headers and h pipe not x pipe because that wild make it rasp
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So will going catback actually improve HP? I had read somewhere that the 2014 mustangs already have an upgraded pipe and wouldn't really benefit from the catback setup
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So will going catback actually improve HP? I had read somewhere that the 2014 mustangs already have an upgraded pipe and wouldn't really benefit from the catback setup
I mean you may gain 5-10 not even because it is a v6. I still don't know if I want to go cat back or just axle backs.
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Catback won't do much for the V6. Best bet is just to get Axlebacks. If your state does emission testing, do not remove the Cats if you decide to change the entire exhaust.

I only had Shorty headers and mufflers on my 2014 V6. Nice deep sound that got loud when I floored it. MPGs did not change and with a dialed in tune, you can get a small bump from the shorty headers.
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With a tune, flowmaster axlebacks, jlt caiand shorty headers I dyno 290 rwhp at the wheels.

Slap on procharger lol I'm at 410 rwhp

So u get about 30-40 rwhp gain with basic bolt ons.


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With a tune, flowmaster axlebacks, jlt caiand shorty headers I dyno 290 rwhp at the wheels.

Slap on procharger lol I'm at 410 rwhp

So u get about 30-40 rwhp gain with basic bolt ons.


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It's crazy when you think that these cars offer 305 HP at the crank. And in order to get most of that back to the wheels, you have to sink a decent amount into the car.

It's like "It's MY power and I need it NOW!!!"
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Catback won't do much for the V6. Best bet is just to get Axlebacks. If your state does emission testing, do not remove the Cats if you decide to change the entire exhaust.

I only had Shorty headers and mufflers on my 2014 V6. Nice deep sound that got loud when I floored it. MPGs did not change and with a dialed in tune, you can get a small bump from the shorty headers.
Thanks for the info, the main reason I'm looking at catback is to setup a good foundation for when I put in an x-pipe and shorty headers.
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Thanks for the info, the main reason I'm looking at catback is to setup a good foundation for when I put in an x-pipe and shorty headers.
If you don't want rasp, don't get an x pipe or at least look up videos with the x pipe because a lot of people says it rasps or sounds Honda-ish but then other people will tell you it doesn't. Look up videos on things from offroad h pipes to x pipes to see what you like.

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With a tune, flowmaster axlebacks, jlt caiand shorty headers I dyno 290 rwhp at the wheels.

Slap on procharger lol I'm at 410 rwhp

So u get about 30-40 rwhp gain with basic bolt ons.


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Where did you get your procharger from?
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Thanks for the info, the main reason I'm looking at catback is to setup a good foundation for when I put in an x-pipe and shorty headers.
The addition you pay for a catback is just the mufflers and Over Axle pipes. The over axle pipes stay the same 2.25" diameter (stock - 2.25"). You MIGHT get slightly different bending and the resonators might be deleted. But that won't really add performance, just make your car sound a little louder.

The one benefit is the Stainless Steel for some.

If you got a few extra hundred dollars to drop for shiny over axle pipes of the same size vs. rusty looking ones, then that is your call.
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Procharger (company) supercharger kit... gets 475 hp crank for stock setup.
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Procharger (company) supercharger kit... gets 475 hp crank for stock setup.
And 700 HP if you have 3.7 badges.
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Yeah, I'm up for the 3rd oil change on the procharger, so close to 15k miles on it and fortunately no problems. I mean, water pump went dead after 40k, but apparently it is a well-established problem for v6's of our generation.
It drives like stock at low rpm's, but when you punch it you can definitely feel the difference.
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The addition you pay for a catback is just the mufflers and Over Axle pipes. The over axle pipes stay the same 2.25" diameter (stock - 2.25"). You MIGHT get slightly different bending and the resonators might be deleted. But that won't really add performance, just make your car sound a little louder.

The one benefit is the Stainless Steel for some.

If you got a few extra hundred dollars to drop for shiny over axle pipes of the same size vs. rusty looking ones, then that is your call.
My Magneflow catbacks have 2.5" pipes don't the others?
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My Magneflow catbacks have 2.5" pipes don't the others?
No - Here is the description from the S Types catback:

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2.25" Mandrel-Bent Stainless Steel Tubing
4.5" Polished 304 Stainless Steel Tips
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But if these catbacks are offering different diameters, that really restricts the buyer if that is what they want. Some people prefer the S Types sound and stuff. I guess you could buy GT catback then and weld it?
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The addition you pay for a catback is just the mufflers and Over Axle pipes. The over axle pipes stay the same 2.25" diameter (stock - 2.25"). You MIGHT get slightly different bending and the resonators might be deleted. But that won't really add performance, just make your car sound a little louder.

The one benefit is the Stainless Steel for some.
Would there be any benefit for future upgrades if I went ahead with the cat-back or will it not make a difference?
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Would there be any benefit for future upgrades if I went ahead with the cat-back or will it not make a difference?
If you turbo or supercharge usually.
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No - Here is the description from the S Types catback:

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2.25" Mandrel-Bent Stainless Steel Tubing
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But if these catbacks are offering different diameters, that really restricts the buyer if that is what they want. Some people prefer the S Types sound and stuff. I guess you could buy GT catback then and weld it?
I just checked on AM and the only V-6 catback with 2.25" pipes are the Borla's, the rest are 2.5". So if you want bigger pipes just stay away from them. I love my Magneflow Streets, they are quiet when you want them to be but sound awesome when you floor it. No drone and nearly no rasp. They were on the car when I bought it so I can't really take credit for them.
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I just checked on AM and the only V-6 catback with 2.25" pipes are the Borla's, the rest are 2.5". So if you want bigger pipes just stay away from them.
I wonder why they decided to be the odd one and go with a small pipe.
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I wonder why they decided to be the odd one and go with a small pipe.
Because you loose low end Torque when you up the pipe size in theory.
Like Zombie said, if you want the shiny pipes go for it, there is no addition to HP or Torque in the normal driving RPM's
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I vote go catback. New, you can get a catback for roughly the same price as most of the high-end axlebacks.

My current plan is shorties, catted x-pipe, and catback exhaust.

Unfortunately no one has found that go to exhaust setup. Until someone does, it's going to be a lot of experimenting.



I think I'm sold on the SW catback, but I'll probably buy the Pypes axlebacks to hold me over.
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Hey everyone, I just wanted to give an update and say that I went with the Borla ATAK Cat-back system and love it. Amazing sound out of the mustang now. Highly recommend the ATAK.
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I got the ATAK on my '11 too and I just love them!
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I got the ATAK on my '11 too and I just love them!
I love how loud it is. I was really worried about it sounding like a ricer but I am definitely impressed with the sound.
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With bbks shorties and xpipe it gets a little ricey at 3-4k while warming up, any other rpm it sounds amazing
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I stuck with just the stock hybrid pipe but plan to swap for a true x-pipe later this year.


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If you need a glimpse of the exhaust setup that I'm going to be purchasing when I get back into the States, you can click on the link below.

It's for a 2011-2014 V6 which consists of: BBK Long Tube Headers, an O/R X-pipe, SCT X4 Tuner, and Bassani Axleback.

From the sound of it, it doesn't seem like it'd have too much raspiness to it which is the main reason why I'm getting rid of my Roush Axleback.

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If you think Roush are too raspy good luck with LTS and off road anything.........

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Agreed. Long tubes on the cyclone will make anything raspy. Maybe if you used high flow cats, it might muffle it down a bit.

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Agreed. Long tubes on the cyclone will make anything raspy. Maybe if you used high flow cats, it might muffle it down a bit.

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Actually even Raspy with cats, the factory resonators do a fine job. The reason I went short tubes, factory cats and resonators are still there.

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