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Old 07-27-2016, 05:13 AM   #631
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OK, let's take a step back and just look at some specs... these are the best I could determine for the 2014 GT vs. 2014 V6 Mustangs, both without extra options:

Spec: GT vs V6
HP: 420 vs 305
TQ: 390 vs 280
Lbs: 3618 vs 3501
MPG: 18/25 vs 19/31
MSRP: $32210 vs $22510
Top Spd: 149 vs 113

For $9700, the 2014 GT offered an extra 115 HP and 110 lb-ft of torque while adding 117 lbs of weight. The GT will run 36 MPH faster than the V6 with the factory speed limiters. Since both models have 16 gallon gas tanks, the v6 could theoretically travel 96 miles further on the highway than the V8.

Good comparisons for 0-60 and quarter mile times are a bit harder to find. Motor Trend did test both a GT and a V6 in 2013, with a difference of one second even from 0-60, and 1.2 seconds/11.8 MPH on the quarter mile time. However, test results vary depending on the tester, conditions and vehicle...
(Source: https://www.0-60specs.com/ford-mustang-0-60-times/)

Now, for the things that are harder to quantify:
1) Most of us will agree that the V8 has a better sound than the V6.
2) With the marginally lighter weight, it could be argued that the V6 should be a bit more nimble. I did not find comparable slalom times, although I would think that there should be some out there. However, I admit that I don't have hard numbers, nor do I have any personal experience comparing the two on twisty roads. I suspect the actual difference is minimal.
3) Prestige. Based on this thread, there are a variety of opinions about what the type of engine under the hood says about the owner.

Other considerations:
1) The performance package will help the acceleration & handling of the V6 for about $1500.
2) Top speed of the V6 can be raised for the price of an aftermarket driveshaft ($700ish) and a tune ($400ish). A tune will also help a power a bit.
Those items add about $2500 to the price of the V6. At that point, the GT would cost an extra $7200.

Those are the numbers as best as I could determine. Are the advantages of the GT worth the extra money compared to the V6? Everyone has to make that decision for themselves...
Sticker for the 2014 GT was $31,695 starting out. Mine was 25K new with discounts and rebates before TTL.
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Excellent write up sir. So, the initial factory price difference between the 2014 5.0 and 3.7 was 9,700 dollars. So the real question for people, Is 9,700 dollars extra worth paying to own the 5.0 over the 3.7? Some say heck yeah and others say heck no.

We all know my thoughts on that. Lol! Each their own and no right or wrong answer.

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^^^that but folks get their own choice. I know I would pick a plain V8 over a loaded V6 w/o having to think on it at all. Instead I picked a plain V6 (perf pack only option). After 5 yrs I don't regret my choice much. I would consider (if my choices were the same) going with just the 3.31 gears and purchasing wheels separate but idk? I wish I sprung for the factory alarm instead of the nightmare of installing it myself.

I would prefer (and can afford) the V8 but idk if I would spring for it even after having a V6. I probably would at least bring it up to Mrs Mud as she makes way more than 1/2 the $ in our house.
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Sticker for the 2014 GT was $31,695 starting out. Mine was 25K new with discounts and rebates before TTL.

When ford offered rebates people were getting the v6s for 18-19 out the door. Still works out to 7-8 k more For a gt.


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Sticker for the 2014 GT was $31,695 starting out. Mine was 25K new with discounts and rebates before TTL.
I appreciate the extra information on the pricing. The MSRP numbers I listed were what Google gave me in that generic information box that pops up when typing something like "2014 Mustang GT Base MSRP"... I should have double checked the source and numbers.

So, in the interest of due diligence, I went to the NADA website to see what it said, since they still list historical data on car prices. NADA says a 2014 GT coupe with no options had an MSRP of $31210, while a 2014 V6 coupe with no options had an MSRP of $22510... a difference of $8700, which is a thousand less than what the Google numbers gave me.

So, there is a little bit better info from what is hopefully a more reputable source, for what it's worth...
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Anybody going to the American Muscle "ALL MUSTANG SHOW" will be amazed at all of the different Mustangs there will be there with engine ranging from Streight inline 6 cylinders to 4 culinders to V6 of different displacements to V8 of different displacements.
Last year there was a 2010 Mustang with a Cheyy engine in it.

All Mustangs that the owners seemed to love, All the owners seemed to like each other and We liked looking at each others Mustangs. It was a great day and with over 3,000 Mustangs, It was impossible to see them all.

My friend Nick road his Harley down from New York and being a CORVETTE guy actually said that this was the best car show "EVER" and was amazed that none of the Mustangs really looked the same.
He said at the Corvette shows most of them are identical and it seemed to him that the Mustang people liked to edit their cars more then the Corvette people do.

What I'm trying to get at is, It is not the engine, year or Transmission but the Mustang alone is what we like.

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He stated that it was mainly the Mustang that actually brought back the Camaro and kept Dodge alive.

I say, No matter what engine or what year Mustang it is, It is still TRUE AMERICAN and keeps the car events alive. Go to any car show and what do you see most of. "MUSTANGS"
I could go on and on but I;ll let you guys go back to arguing about engines.
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Sticker for the 2014 GT was $31,695 starting out. Mine was 25K new with discounts and rebates before TTL.
On a Skid Pad the V/6 with the PP pulls a .96G and the GT a .95G. Best 0-60 was 5.1 and 13.7 quarter mile by Motor Trend for the V/6. The GT did 4.4 and 12.8. Alum drive shaft can be bought for under $600 with shipping on Ebay. I think for the money the V/6 is a better value. And I could have bought a V/8, no money issues here.
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I must be at the wrong high school parking lots because I don't see V6 mustangs parked in the student parking lots.

lol when I drive by my old collegiate, i see girls with Stangs, & boys with trucks & imports haha


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Do a lot of 16 year old girls drive the 3.7? I only ask because I haven't seen any or.know of any!

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Why did you buy your v6 instead of a v8?

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Here's a good question for you. Why are there 5.0 owners that ALSO buy a V6??

5 is for racing/showing, v6 is for daily driving/school/work/grocery shopping etc etc.
I would get a 5.0, but no way would i get rid of my v6, its almost like mint, & it looks awesome & everyone dats so...
& if i were to trade for a 5.0, I wouldn't get anything for it, because it's 10 years old, & I wouldn't sell it anyways.
I wouldn't trade my 2006 v6 for a 2016 5.0 (well maybe) but i would miss it too much lol
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Clearly, it must be the area because not around my way but thats cool. I don't care if thousands of 73 year old grandmothers drive the V6 mustang. It doesn't change my perspective of the 3.7 and the performance that is offered with it. I still love my 3.7 regardless if every 16 year old in America drives one. Just shows they have great taste.

On a side note, the V6 mustangs that I do see teenage girls driving in are pre 2011. The old V6 engine not the 3.7. The 3.7 and 4.0 V6 are not the same , not even close. I think a more accurate statement about teenage girls driving V6 mustangs is that they are not the newer V6 mustangs.

I'm not saying that no 16 year olds in the world don't drive a 3.7 but the majority I don't believe are the new 3.7 V6.

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Clearly, it must be the area because not around my way but thats cool. I don't care if thousands of 73 year old grandmothers drive the V6 mustang. It doesn't change my perspective of the 3.7 and the performance that is offered with it. I still love my 3.7 regardless if every 16 year old in America drives one. Just shows they have great taste.

On a side note, the V6 mustangs that I do see teenage girls driving in are pre 2011. The old V6 engine not the 3.7. The 3.7 and 4.0 V6 are not the same , not even close. I think a more accurate statement about teenage girls driving V6 mustangs is that they are not the newer V6 mustangs.

I'm not saying that no 16 year olds in the world don't drive a 3.7 but the majority I don't believe are the new 3.7 V6.

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You are correct with the economy the way it is going, not many families are not putting their kids in 2011 to 2016 Mustangs.
Not many father's and mothers are putting their 16 year old daughters in a 305 HP performance car like a Mustang. The fact that it has two less cylinders is irrelevant to a parent when it comes to that type of performance and power. The 3.7 is nearly identical to power as the 2010 and under Gt's.

I can tell you as a parent of a 15 year old son and 12 year old daughter, I would never ever buy my 16 year old a 300 plus HP performance car of any kind. I don't care if it has 2 cylinders in it.



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I remember my first car, a 1983 3.8 ford T bird, $500, bought it at 17. Everything broke on that car and was a rusty rust bucket, but when your in grade 11 with really any car it was very cool back then!
If kids are showing up to school with anything newer then a 2011 my hats off to them!
There was only like 15 people with their licence when I graduated, never mind owning any type of car that wasn't their parent's.
Man how times have changed.

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Not many father's and mothers are putting their 16 year old daughters in a 305 HP performance car like a Mustang. The fact that it has two less cylinders is irrelevant to a parent when it comes to that type of performance and power. The 3.7 is nearly identical to power as the 2010 and under Gt's.

I can tell you as a parent of a 15 year old son and 12 year old daughter, I would never ever buy my 16 year old a 300 plus HP performance car of any kind. I don't care if it has 2 cylinders in it.



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Most v6 cars these days are 300hp. As a parent which am not, I would rather see my kid in a 300 hp mustang vs a 300 hp maxima lol.


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Not in Connecticut with the snow we get. For my daughter it will be a older Taurus, Fusion, or a Focus.
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Yeah rear drive and snow is definality not what I'd what my kid driving/learning in.
We get so much damn snow up here that front wheel is really the only way to go, or 4x4.
It's so bad in the winter that any car on the road has to have winter tires on it from December 15th to March 15th or is subject to a hefty fine.
Come winter I don't see any Mustangs on the road.
Mine goes to sleep in the garage and my bad boy 99 civic comes out.😆

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I park mine and only take it out when the roads are dry and no chance of rain or snow. Small SUVs are very popular here like Escapes, and CRVs.
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Well if this article for 2015 mustang is any indication it would appear Female drivers are opting for V4 lol:

What Do Women Want? This Year, a Ford Mustang - Bloomberg

So depending on what model people are seeing that "V6" maybe a V4 lol.
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Well if this article for 2015 mustang is any indication it would appear Female drivers are opting for V4 lol:

What Do Women Want? This Year, a Ford Mustang - Bloomberg

So depending on what model people are seeing that "V6" maybe a V4 lol.
I guess the TG population are now buying the V6 models. 😆😎

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I really wasn't a fan of the 15s when they came out, but they are really growing on me.
I stopped off at my local ford dealer for an oil change and they had a CS in the show room, what a beautiful car!
I'd be down with an Eco also, don't think I could trade my 3.7 for one, but if I was a new buyer I'd definality look at one!



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I appreciate the extra information on the pricing. The MSRP numbers I listed were what Google gave me in that generic information box that pops up when typing something like "2014 Mustang GT Base MSRP"... I should have double checked the source and numbers.

So, in the interest of due diligence, I went to the NADA website to see what it said, since they still list historical data on car prices. NADA says a 2014 GT coupe with no options had an MSRP of $31210, while a 2014 V6 coupe with no options had an MSRP of $22510... a difference of $8700, which is a thousand less than what the Google numbers gave me.

So, there is a little bit better info from what is hopefully a more reputable source, for what it's worth...
Mine is from my Window sticker.



Regardless, the Mustang turned into one hell of a performance bargain in any flavor during its last year of production and V6 and GT cars are terrific buys these days if you look for the deals.
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On a Skid Pad the V/6 with the PP pulls a .96G and the GT a .95G. Best 0-60 was 5.1 and 13.7 quarter mile by Motor Trend for the V/6. The GT did 4.4 and 12.8. Alum drive shaft can be bought for under $600 with shipping on Ebay. I think for the money the V/6 is a better value. And I could have bought a V/8, no money issues here.
The GT can go quite a bit faster than 12.8 with minimal mods, I was running 12.7 leaving at a dead idle to deal with stock suspension wheel hop. With just a few cheap suspension parts I have added and the off road pipe it should run in the low 12's at 115-116 when the weather cools off. I drove both when I was looking, for me at least the GT fit what I was looking for. I wanted the 5.0 with the fewest options I could find knowing that when the warranty runs out it will be made to go a few seconds faster in the 1/4 than it does now.
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I really wasn't a fan of the 15s when they came out, but they are really growing on me.
I stopped off at my local ford dealer for an oil change and they had a CS in the show room, what a beautiful car!
I'd be down with an Eco also, don't think I could trade my 3.7 for one, but if I was a new buyer I'd definality look at one!



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I have to admit, when the 15's first came out I was no fan and thought yuck. Since the S550 has been out a few years now it's still yuck and don't like it. Looking forward to seeing Ford make the next generation and hoping it looks good. Ba ha ha ha ha

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Well, DEFINITELY teen/rookie drivers SHOULDN'T be given lots of horsepower...
but, they are spoiled rich kids.
So, they get what they want.
On the other hand, it was my dads idea to buy my Mustang haha
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Well if this article for 2015 mustang is any indication it would appear Female drivers are opting for V4 lol:



What Do Women Want? This Year, a Ford Mustang - Bloomberg



So depending on what model people are seeing that "V6" maybe a V4 lol.

A Mustangs a Mustang, but a v8 would be my choice.
Then my dad would say: "You don't need a gas hog!! Get a 4 cylinder. That's all you need!👍"
...of course, my dads a cheapskate. haha


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Hm, quite a few girls here got Cyclones for first cars. Actually had to hide one of cars at my house for a buddy, daughter's birthday present. Hell the girl I was sweet on, in high school, got a 14 GT in 2013.


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Mine is from my Window sticker.


Now that is a reputable source!

Little things like this drive me crazy... why is there a $485 difference between the MSRP for the base GT between your window sticker and what NADA has on record? Aaaargh!

On top of that, the base price on my '14 V6 window sticker is exactly the same as what NADA listed.

Ah, the joys of trying to trying to get accurate figures for comparing 3 year old cars! Thanks for getting us the MSRP from your window sticker... good to have a solid price for reference.
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Why did you buy your v6 instead of a v8?

Hey is there a resource for window stickers?
That would be nice to print & frame

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You might give this site a try: Use your VIN number to get Ford Window Sticker

*Disclaimer: I've never actually entered a VIN to see what it looks like.

**Edit: Just tried it for my '14 and it says the information hasn't been released yet. Hmmm....
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Ford stopped allowing window stickers to be printed last year for unknown reasons. I'm glad I saved mine. Dealers can still do it however.
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Now that is a reputable source!



Little things like this drive me crazy... why is there a $485 difference between the MSRP for the base GT between your window sticker and what NADA has on record? Aaaargh!



On top of that, the base price on my '14 V6 window sticker is exactly the same as what NADA listed.



Ah, the joys of trying to trying to get accurate figures for comparing 3 year old cars! Thanks for getting us the MSRP from your window sticker... good to have a solid price for reference.

Ford doesn't necessary have the same msrp for an entire year. When I bought my 14 there were a few I was looking at that had the same options and the prices were different by a few hundred dollars. The dealer told me it was due to when the cars were manufactured and ford actually increased msrp for whatever reason at some point in 2014.


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I actually heard rumor that the V6 mustang is more rare because Ford added the two cylinder delete kit. Just saying!

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There are small price increases during the model year and also they come up with special value packages with discounts to pump sales up also. That is why you can see different prices on two cars with the same equipment.
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