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Old 05-31-2016, 11:42 AM   #1
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Has anyone gone from a 3.7 to a 3v 4.6?

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I have a 14 premium auto V6 (which I enjoy driving) with 60k. But my dad has an 06 gt premium manual that he's going to be selling that i know is well taken care of and has less than 40k miles on it. Has anybody gone from one platform to the other? I love V8's and the sound and torque is super tempting to me and I have really enjoyed it the handful of times I've driven it. Also, a newer 5.0 is out of the question due to budget at the moment. Any thoughts on a "sidegrade" would be appreciated.
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You are downgrading doing that, not sidegrading.
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Other than interior how is it a downgrade?
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The torque curve on the 4.6 is a little better then the 3.7. Not to mention it is a manual V8. Lol. So that alone would rid you of the questions "Is it a v8?" or "Is it a manual?". That alone is CONSTANT and will drive a person to strangle someone.

It comes down to what your preference is. Body style, sound, transmission type, interior, etc. Also, if the 2006 is more in your budget or w/e vs. the newer car, then so be it.

The newer 3.7 does take well to mods, but take it from someone who has went all out on one, besides a procharger/turbo, the cap for these N/A (no spray), is a little over 300 rwhp and 280 or so torque. Talking realistic numbers when accounting for the average budget.

I am NOT referring to those key few individuals that have dropped $15,000+ on their 3.7.

Both vehicles are about the same weight. 2014 has a few more modern features. It is a V6 so gas consumption will be a hair better. Insurance may be a tad cheaper also.

You will lose the cool little LCD in your cluster. I think both Premiums have some sort of "upgraded" sound system, mycolor, and leather?

Looks like mods are around the same ballpark in price for both.

Here is AM's project car for their 2006 GT.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2006-gt-project-car.html

End the end with most normal bolt-ons, the 2014 V6 and 2006 GT will maintain similar rwhp numbers. The higher torque is where the 06 have a bit more of.

Maybe others can chime in but it really is up to you.

My personal vote would be the 2006.
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Do you have any pictures of the 2006 GT? Good news is, your wheels may be able to be swapped to the 2006 You can unmarry your tuner and buy tunes for the 2006 also. So there is a start.

And with the 2006 you can add more modern exterior headlights and taillights, wheels, and other cosmetics.

It is up to what you ultimately want and can afford.
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I could afford to either keep mine, or sell it and buy that one from my dad. I don't have any pictures of his actual car but its very similar to this :

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Except the wheels aren't chrome.
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Oooooo that is nice. If you sold yours, how much would you be hoping to get (realistically)? And what is your dad asking? Because you may be able to have some extra money left to throw at this car for mods.

Just depends on what your local market is like and what he is asking.
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I say go ahead and do the swap. V6's are cheap and easy to come by. If you want another, it'll be cheaper than finding an 05-09 GT in as good of shape as your dad's. My aunt has an 07 GT manual for sale. I'd never get rid of mine, but I would gladly buy another and mod it. Save the V6 for daily driving and the GT for weekends.
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In the end its down to what makes you happy. Just remember that you will pay more insurance, more for gas, lose creature comforts/features and the car honestly won't be any faster. You'll be getting a manual trans and the V8 sound/status and that's it. That is a pretty 3V for sure.
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In the end its down to what makes you happy. Just remember that you will pay more insurance, more for gas, lose creature comforts/features and the car honestly won't be any faster. You'll be getting a manual trans and the V8 sound/status and that's it. That is a pretty 3V for sure.
I'll have to disagree with this. I have actually been looking a lot at picking up a 3v as my next track car, and they can be quite a bit faster than a 3.7. They just suffer from the same problem the 3.7 does, which is gearing... i test drove a 3v the other day and 2nd gear, 40 mph was around 3k rpm... thats way too long of gearing, especially in a 5 speed. If you throw a 3.73 in there the ratios work out to almost exactly the same as a 3.55 equipped 3.7L. Then take into account the 3v will more more power with bolt ons, and slapping cams in is a "relatively" easy affair for 350 whp.

I never thought i'd be talking myself into a 4.6, but the 3v isnt a bad car. The 3v GT also weight about the same as a 3.7 v6, so that's pretty nice as well. I'd say its 90% side grade, 10% upgrade. You really are downgrading interiors (even though the 11-14 is nothing to write home about) and barely upgrading engines. Not sure how the old 5 speed compares to the MT-82, but thats not exactly a stellar transmission to begin with so... theres a lot of back and forth to be had.
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I had an 06gt vert premium, auto 3.31 gears shaker1000 silver with black interior and top. Loved the car but after owning my 2014 just the interior change is enough to keep me from going back to an 05-09 car. Now if it was a 2010gt different story.
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If hypothetically, you'd be spending the exact, and I do mean exact, same amount of money on having either, I'd get the GT.

If you have to pay more for the GT, save up that cash for a Coyote. I wouldn't get a 3V just to say "I have a V8", then proceed to get beat by a 3.7 with more parts than you, or a stock 370Z/STI.


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If hypothetically, you'd be spending the exact, and I do mean exact, same amount of money on having either, I'd get the GT.

If you have to pay more for the GT, save up that cash for a Coyote. I wouldn't get a 3V just to say "I have a V8", then proceed to get beat by a 3.7 with more parts than you, or a stock 370Z/STI.


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Has anyone gone from a 3.7 to a 3v 4.6?

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Stock for stock my mazdaspeed3 would put buses on a 3v They desperately need a gear upgrade as mod #1
Exactly, I'm not a sore loser by any means, but losing to an STI that has had the same motor for about 15 years now and still going, is in my eyes a waste of money to pay more to have equal speed.


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Rgstelzner - could you grace us with some pictures of your dad's car when you have time? Just want to see what the interior on that one looks like and such.


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Has anyone gone from a 3.7 to a 3v 4.6?

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They desperately need a gear upgrade as mod #1

What I plan for both of mine, 4.10s.
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What I plan for both of mine, 4.10s.
You got a second one? Let me know when you go to Car and Coffee man!


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Yeah, I might be going with a friend of mine to the 1/8 in Clarksville, Friday. Depends on weather.
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Damn I won't have my car till Tuesday evening, dropping it off tomorrow for a clear bra + full paint correction in Nashville.


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No worries, it won't be the last time we go.
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I don't have any pictures of it currently, but the interior is in perfect condition. My dad kept it garaged since he's had it as well. It's white with dark blue racing stripes. Ill try and take some this week as they only live across town from me. Originally my dad said he was going to trade it in tonight (when he hopes to pick up a dark green convertible 2016 5.0, my mom wants the convertible) but he decided not to, and I have some time to decide now. Instead of 10 hours lol
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Has anyone gone from a 3.7 to a 3v 4.6?

I'd get it. But I might be biased. 😅
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I should say it has a few rattles, but none that bother me. I went and drove it today, and it being a manual, V8, and the great shape its in is making it hard to resist
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I should say it has a few rattles, but none that bother me. I went and drove it today, and it being a manual, V8, and the great shape its in is making it hard to resist
How much of a price difference overall is it to your current car though?

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What I'm looking to do is pay about 1-1.5k out of pocket, but my payments will go down about 100$ a month while keeping the same payoff date. Insurance is like 10$ more a month. Gas willbe a little more, but not a huge cost
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I'd say go for it.


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Post more pics of the GT I guess. I mean if it makes you happy and its a family car and you can get a good price for your sixxer then go for it. Just don't think that a bolt on 4.6 is going to be markedly faster than what you have. Not to mention if you are going to take it to the 1/4 I guarantee that V6 with the auto will be faster down the track.
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Post more pics of the GT I guess. I mean if it makes you happy and its a family car and you can get a good price for your sixxer then go for it. Just don't think that a bolt on 4.6 is going to be markedly faster than what you have. Not to mention if you are going to take it to the 1/4 I guarantee that V6 with the auto will be faster down the track.
I dont. Our 3.73, intake, tune v6 lost by about a car give or take to a bolt on 3v with a stick. We ran a ... it was like 13.7 @ 102 or 103 with a 2.0 60', its been a while now so i dont remember exactly. I was driving on that pass however, and the 3v clearly was about a car ahead or so.
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I think what people look at is just the rwhp number. Yes, with bolt-ons the 3v and 3.7 will be fairly close. What the 3v has over the 3.7 though is 40-50 more pounds of torque. And it is very hard to get the torque over 300 on the 3.7 without spray or boost. Even with almost all bolt-ons, my 3.7 was at around 275-280 pounds of torque. While a good lightly bolt-on 3v is around 315-320.

Yes, you can go nuts and redo the engine and such on the 3.7 or drop cams and such on the 3v and get numbers on either side much higher, but I was just giving a generic example.

I would go with the 3V man. Not just for torque and such. But yes, because it is a V8 and a manual. This will save you some dignity. lol

Not to mention it probably looks very nice and very low miles for its year. Like others have mentioned, you could lose some minor creature comforts, but I personally wouldn't care. As far as appearance, Raxiom sells tail lights and headlights to give you a more modern look. Slap some good rims and tires on it, and suspension, and that 3V will look awesome. Then throw a good exhaust on it to really bring out that rumble.

Just remember, no matter what you do to that 3.7, it will never sound like a V8. You can get them to a nice decent low rumble, but it won't be the same. Plus, I don't see as many good 05-09s on the road anymore. Most around my area are trashed.
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I'd take the 3V. That's saying a lot from someone who really, really doesn't like the 05-09 bodystyle. More torque, I assume, and I would think more room to grow power wise. And umm...the V8 sound!

Also I read earlier where someone posted about the constant "is it a v8, is it a manual" questions. With my last Mustang it got rather annoying. Always hearing "well, at least it's a manual" regardless of how much money was put into it got old.

Aside from interior, I see it as an upgrade. And really the interior on the 3V isn't as dated as the 04 down cars.

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Yup. And things can be upgraded if they want (better sound system, in-dash screen/gps, etc). Sky is the limit.....depending on the wallet. Lol
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Just the fact that the discussion is whether or not a 3.7 will beat a 4.6 of not too long ago speaks volumes about our 3.7s!
I wouldn't do it whatsoever, to a 5.0 yes because its clearly an upgrade, but not something to that's like 5 years older with yesteryears engine.
And like someone mentioned those years just rub me the wrong way look wise.

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Funny thing is it seems like the next step for the 3.7 guys are the 4.6's. I know of 2 other guys that traded in their 3.7's for 4.6 3v's. My 4.6 was strong when I had it in fact it easily beat my buddy's 3.7. The 4.6's can be had pretty cheap now it's good opportunity to get a GT. They sound great and they have more than enough power for most people I say go for it.


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I'm going over now to look at their new 5.0, and drive the 06 again. I'll take some pictures of it then. And I have a soft spot for that body style, my first Mustang was an 07 V6 that I loved.
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