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Old 09-10-2016, 07:52 PM   #1
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Unhappy Rusty BBK Long Tube Headers

Here are pictures of my Ceramic Coated BBK Long Tube Headers. They are four and a half years old with around 18,000 miles on them. I know they're nothing I can do about it but thought I would share this with you all . I hope they don't burn through, then I'll have to replace them [IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG]


Anyone else have this much rust? I don't drive my Mustang when snow and salt is on the highway. Doesn't snow very much in Tennessee. Just wondering.
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Have you talked to BBK? Mine were two years old and they warrantied them. Not as much rust as yours and I had 30k miles on them


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No, I haven't talked to BBK. I figure it wouldn't do much good. They only look bad when I have it up on ramps to change the oil. They look pretty good when looking in the engine bay. I'm hoping they don't burn through and will last for a few more years. I might be looking for a new Mustang around 2020, if I live that long
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Man, this is why it's worth the extra money long term for stainless headers.

Hope they don't rust through on you.
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Man, this is why it's worth the extra money long term for stainless headers.

Hope they don't rust through on you.
I hope they don't rust through too. Stainless steel is the way to go but, I don't think stainless steel headers were offered back when I bought mine. If they were I fell on the band wagon for the ceramic coated long tube headers from BBK everyone was talking about
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Try sending an email to Tim Gilpin, he's in marketing over there and was very helpful. Here's his email address:
tgilpin@bbkperformance.com

He helped me get mine warrantied, you could always ask him.


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Hope you get it sorted out!.. I have had BBK Ceramic Headers on my car for just over 2 years!.. It's a DD year round here in Michigan, and I don't have any rust on them!..


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Try sending an email to Tim Gilpin, he's in marketing over there and was very helpful. Here's his email address:
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He helped me get mine warrantied, you could always ask him.


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Thanks for the link. I just emailed him
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Hope you get it sorted out!.. I have had BBK Ceramic Headers on my car for just over 2 years!.. It's a DD year round here in Michigan, and I don't have any rust on them!..


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Mine were like new for 3 1/2 years then started looking rusty. A little more rust every couple months
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After having many sets of ceramic coated headers on different hot rods I finally switched to SS. Know mater what people say you need to maintain the ceramic finish or it will go away over time. What I always used on my ceramic coated hot rod headers was put out by Flathead Jack in Northern California...called Header Chit...it really worked and I used it from day one, whenever they got dirty or started changing color...Flathead Jack Catalog Page 148
If you have SS headers and want to bring them back to their polished finish or get rid of the straw color go to Amazon and use Compound 302...it is expensive but works magic on SS...IMHO
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After having many sets of ceramic coated headers on different hot rods I finally switched to SS. Know mater what people say you need to maintain the ceramic finish or it will go away over time. What I always used on my ceramic coated hot rod headers was put out by Flathead Jack in Northern California...called Header Chit...it really worked and I used it from day one, whenever they got dirty or started changing color...Flathead Jack Catalog Page 148
If you have SS headers and want to bring them back to their polished finish or get rid of the straw color go to Amazon and use Compound 302...it is expensive but works magic on SS...IMHO
I checked with flatheadjack today, they don't sell Header Chit anymore. bummer
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I checked with flatheadjack today, they don't sell Header Chit anymore. bummer
Ok, the next best thing is to find the finest steel wool and a microfiber cloth, not sure if finest steel wool is 000 or 0000, then get some Mothers Aluminum Polish, this is about as close to Header Chit as you will get....then I'd start with just polishing the header with Mothers....do this 2 or 3 times to see if it will bring it back. If not go over it lightly with the steel wool, this will make kind of dull...then use the Mothers a couple of times like before and it should make it better. I've seen headers that were pretty bad and this procedure brought them back to 90%...I've never done this on rusted ceramic coated heads but it would be worth a try...IMHO

Make sure the headers are cold before you do the above.
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Ok, the next best thing is to find the finest steel wool and a microfiber cloth, not sure if finest steel wool is 000 or 0000, then get some Mothers Aluminum Polish, this is about as close to Header Chit as you will get....then I'd start with just polishing the header with Mothers....do this 2 or 3 times to see if it will bring it back. If not go over it lightly with the steel wool, this will make kind of dull...then use the Mothers a couple of times like before and it should make it better. I've seen headers that were pretty bad and this procedure brought them back to 90%...I've never done this on rusted ceramic coated heads but it would be worth a try...IMHO

Make sure the headers are cold before you do the above.

I wish that would work but the headers are coated in ceramic so a metal polish doesn't do anything. I'm not sure if there's much of anything to protect them with, other than a ceramic stove top polish of some sort


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I wish that would work but the headers are coated in ceramic so a metal polish doesn't do anything. I'm not sure if there's much of anything to protect them with, other than a ceramic stove top polish of some sort


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If you're Ceramic headers are rusty this will help bring them back to original...as long as they are not too rusty.
If you want to maintain your Ceramic Coated headers use Mothers Aluminum polish...almost the same as Flathead Jacks Header Chit. I've done this on Ceramic coated headers for over 20 years...it really does work.
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I'll try the Mothers polish and let you know thanks!


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What grade stainless does BBK use? Low grade stainless can develop a surface rust but shouldn't rust through.
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No idea. I'm not even sure if those headers are stainless


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FYI, most header manufactures use 304 stainless which will show slight signs of rusting over time if not maintained.
The best SS is 321 and is used in a lot of Turbo applications and will withstand temperatures over 1600 degrees with deforming. The only downside to 321 is that it's double the cost of 304...the main reason most header manufactures us it.
The only header manufactures I know that use 321 are Burns and SPD...there may be others also that I'm not aware of.
Coating SS headers is not necessary in my book as I've had both on race cars. The 321 holds heat 3x better than mild steel, is really easy to clean and will outlast the car in most cases...coating the 321 with ceramic is better...but not that much better than 321 uncoated...and reducing the underhood temperature...I'm not sure it's worth it for the small amount of reduction...IMHO
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I'm not sure what BBK headers are made out of too, but I'm pretty sure they 'are not' made out of stainless steel
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The reason I think they aren't stainless steel is because you can only order the headers with a chrome or ceramic finish. Plus the web site says the headers are 'constructed from CNC mandrel-bent tubing'
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They are steel that are ceramic coated ($399) or chrome plated ($299)

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