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Old 01-28-2018, 01:19 PM   #1
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Next upgrade- exhaust or tune?

I recently installed an Airaid CAI and chomping at the bit for the next upgrade. I am really regretting not getting a GT, but financially and logistically (long daily commute) the V6 was the better option so I gotta work with what I got. That being said, my next move would be either tuner or exhaust... and I can?t decide. Help me make a decision! If I could do both at the same time I would, but I have bills I gotta pay first lol
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Well any exhaust worth getting needs a tune, so that makes that easy.
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That's too bad. I was given false information then Guess I have no choice but to go with tune. Or save up some cash and do them at the same time.
Found a used bama tuner on craigslist pre-loaded with tunes for 2011-2014 stang. Maybe I will reach out to him.
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Do some research on here regarding bama tuners......
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That's too bad. I was given false information then Guess I have no choice but to go with tune. Or save up some cash and do them at the same time.
Found a used bama tuner on craigslist pre-loaded with tunes for 2011-2014 stang. Maybe I will reach out to him.
And you need tunes specific to your car, can't use someone else's. You can do exhaust without a tune as long as you stick with cat or axle back leaving factory cats in place.
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Do some research on here regarding bama tuners......
The tuner is fine, it's a generic device, but BAMA TUNES you should absolutely do some research on their tune quality.
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The tuner is fine, it's a generic device, but BAMA TUNES you should absolutely do some research on their tune quality.
Thanks for the clarification... the Tune, not the TUNER.
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Get the axlebacks,
If you don't want a lot of vibration and noise
GET:
Magnaflow Street
Borla Touring
Ford Racing Touring
If your after a really obnoxious sound just get anything else.
I have the AirAid and Magnaflows and "NO" TUNE and my V6 (2012) runs great.
A V6 will never ever sound as good as a V8 and A V6 using anything except the ones I mentioned sounds horrible.
Your car will actually feel nice and crisp just changing the mufflers because you do have the AirAid and both together make a nice difference.
The computer already in your car from Ford will adjust after a while.
If you decide later when you hit the lotto that you want a tune, Then do your research on just what you want before spending any money.
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Thanks guys. I freely admit I am def a newbie in every aspect. This is the first car I have ever had any desire to work on and build up. Thanks for looking out and giving me suggestions. I'll keep you all posted.
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If you buy the tuner make sure it’s unmarried as far as tunes go with mpt
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Get the axlebacks,
If you don't want a lot of vibration and noise
GET:
Magnaflow Street
Borla Touring
Ford Racing Touring
If your after a really obnoxious sound just get anything else.
I have the AirAid and Magnaflows and "NO" TUNE and my V6 (2012) runs great.
A V6 will never ever sound as good as a V8 and A V6 using anything except the ones I mentioned sounds horrible.
Your car will actually feel nice and crisp just changing the mufflers because you do have the AirAid and both together make a nice difference.
The computer already in your car from Ford will adjust after a while.
If you decide later when you hit the lotto that you want a tune, Then do your research on just what you want before spending any money.
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Though intake and just mufflers make no real power difference they do make it sound more aggressive.

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If you buy the tuner make sure it’s unmarried as far as tunes go with mpt
This. Definitely go mpt.
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Both together do make enough difference that you know it was worth the $$$$$$.
The touring type mufflers have just enough back pressure that the torque slightly increases without a tune.
Put on something like the Magnaflow Comps or Borla attacks and with no back pressure your Mustang will feel sluggish without a tune.
But then you will have a 3.7 V8 that you will probably hate every time you hear it run.
As most on here already know, I love my V6 and I enjoy driving it. I love the way the Magnaflow streets sound and as much as I love my car, It will never sound as good as a V8.
A v6 with a good air intake and good touring mufflers is ideal for the street,
If the OP had the money to waste and was going to be drag racing a whole lot, Get a tune,
He sounds like he is on a budget so he needs to get the axlebacks first.
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Intake and axlebacks would be lucky to see 5whp gains. The biggest things you'll gain power from on these cars is from the intake manifolds being ported. A set of headers. And a mid pipe.
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Do some research on here regarding bama tuners......
Me and my son have Bama Tuners and they are great!
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Me and my son have Bama Tuners and they are great!
Not trying to be a dick, but i like to ask this question in response to that statement:

great compared to what?
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great compared to what?

Stock?



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Not trying to be a dick, but i like to ask this question in response to that statement:

great compared to what?
Like every single person here, we purchased every tuner on the market, and did extensive AB testing between them all, and did Dynamometer testing in my personal home garage. After that we decided we like the Bama tuner.
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Like every single person here, we purchased every tuner on the market, and did extensive AB testing between them all, and did Dynamometer testing in my personal home garage. After that we decided we like the Bama tuner.
Well no, just reading reviews, comparing numbers, times, etc... There are more than a few people who have moved on from BAMA and had things to say about them.

Dont get me wrong, the free tunes for life is nice, but their tunes are not. I had BAMA free tunes for life while i was modding, and once i was done with boltons i got a tune from AED and it was night and day.

My only point, again not trying to be a dick, was that people with only BAMA tunes are really not qualified to make that statement. If you are happy, that is 100% all that matters, might i just suggest taking some datalogs and making sure your tune is in fact safe and healthy.
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My only point, again not trying to be a dick, was that people with only BAMA tunes are really not qualified to make that statement. If you are happy, that is 100% all that matters, might i just suggest taking some datalogs and making sure your tune is in fact safe and healthy.
Instead of critiquing everyone's opinion and having to make a case you are not a "dick" why not just post what your opinion is, and leave it at that? Everyone doesn't have to agree with you and vice-versa. (BTW that feedback is based upon owning/operating a Ford Thunderbird forum since 2001.

At the end of the day, I think many of the add-ons are just splitting hairs, subjective, and the placebo effect is taking place. Both cars been running 11 months on Bama tunes with no issues and the improvement over stock is significant. Also, the customer service is great, never had a problem reaching them etc, and I read posts from people saying they don't answer for days, etc.

Will also note, both of these cars are manual transmission, and the automatics are where you see a lot of differences in shifting, etc between tunes.
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Well, i was simply stressing it's not my intention to rustle feathers, as differing opinions tend to do. I've said what i have to say.
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That's too bad. I was given false information then Guess I have no choice but to go with tune. Or save up some cash and do them at the same time.
Found a used bama tuner on craigslist pre-loaded with tunes for 2011-2014 stang. Maybe I will reach out to him.
not only does it have to be unlocked..I believe there is a 4 digit code that needs to match. Odds are it won't work.

Smart guys if i am wrong plz correct me!

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not only does it have to be unlocked..I believe there is a 4 digit code that needs to match. Odds are it won't work.

Smart guys if i am wrong plz correct me!

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You're referring to the ECU code, which is tune specific, so yes he probably would not be able to use the tunes already on the tuner. Good point to bring up.
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The 3.7 community does prefer MPT over Bama tunes. Their automatic tune is supposed to be far better than bama. And their engine tunes typically do seem to make more power. But if youre happy with bama cool.
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I got a tune from AED and it was night and day.
I emailed AED and they said "Contact MPT (More Power Tuning) in Florida. We specialize in the Coyote V8."

I can buy the MPT tune, which octane should I buy? I assume I can use it with the tuner I already have.

MPT just emailed me and said " With your vehicle being a manual transmission, the difference may not be as noticeable as if it were an automatic"
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I emailed AED and they said "Contact MPT (More Power Tuning) in Florida. We specialize in the Coyote V8."

I can buy the MPT tune, which octane should I buy? I assume I can use it with the tuner I already have.

MPT just emailed me and said " With your vehicle being a manual transmission, the difference may not be as noticeable as if it were an automatic"
My main concern between BAMA and AED was not outright performance, it was the knock i experienced with my BAMA tune.

We have 93 here in Houston, but MPT just writes 91 tunes stating that the difference in performance from 91 to 93 on an all motor V6 is not significant.

MPT will write you a 91 tune, or a 50/50 E85 tune (which we used at the road course) that is pretty good. It is very hard to get the fuel trims correct on blended fuels, especially when tuning remotely, but if you do a good job of filling up that E85 tune is spot on. I datalogged my wife's v6 on the E85 tune for a week before our first track outing and the trims were well within the acceptable limit.

I dont think the performance aspect is much different between MPT and BAMA, but i feel the safety, refinement and quality of the tune to be superior. If you already have a BAMA tune, you will just have to evaluate what that is worth to you, because it's obviously easy for me to sit here and spend your money on another tune. If your current tune does not show knock and your fuel trims are within 5% or so, it may not be worth the upgrade, but i still think it is something you should consider.
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I did exhaust first and I gotta say you feel more power gain from a tune, but the exhaust will make your car a bit more of your personal touch so it's up to you in what you want. Power or style.
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