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Old 02-05-2011, 10:58 AM   #1
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Just curious... Anyone been burning Regular gas in their 5.0? If so-what has been your experience, regarding any reduction in performance? Mileage?
I have always opted for using the Premium Unleaded-as Ford says the higher octane will give the best performance.
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Not me......wont do it.
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Just curious... Anyone been burning Regular gas in their 5.0? If so-what has been your experience, regarding any reduction in performance? Mileage?
I have always opted for using the Premium Unleaded-as Ford says the higher octane will give the best performance.
93 is fine to burn but u can run lower grades.i burn 93 but i also don't drive it all the time.so it's a matter of your what kind of mods u have done.
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Because of all the snow I have put 87 in mine. You can tell it tones the car down a little. I didn't get that dreaded spark knock all my other mustangs use to get. These 5.0's have variable timing so if you want to put 87 in it it won't hurt it. I figured I wasn't going to need all the power with the slick roads.
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Mines tuned for 93, wont use regular but these cars will relearn to run on lower octane personally I would not want less power - is the effect that dramatic ? I know with break in time + 93 + Bama tune / CAI this car became a beast - I can really feel the difference .
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93 is fine to burn but u can run lower grades.i burn 93 but i also don't drive it all the time.so it's a matter of your what kind of mods u have done.
I'm jealous I have to use octane boost to even get 93 octane in CA.....Highest they sell at the pump is 91. (This means you should be fine considering its what people have to get here)
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I'm jealous I have to use octane boost to even get 93 octane in CA.....Highest they sell at the pump is 91. (This means you should be fine considering its what people have to get here)
wow i didn't know that that sucks
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Mines tuned for 93, wont use regular but these cars will relearn to run on lower octane personally I would not want less power - is the effect that dramatic ? I know with break in time + 93 + Bama tune / CAI this car became a beast - I can really feel the difference .
Nice. Haven't done the mods-yet . I just wanted to see "what the rest of the forum" sez. I thought that with the variable valve timing-and the fact that the Factory indicates that you can also run regular gas, if desired-`but with less power -if there were actually folk doing just that..
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i put 91 in my nissan rouge lol i havnt put 87 in any of my cars in a LONG time lol my stang will never see anything less then 93
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on regular they are rated at like 400hp vs 412~ or there about etc
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I'm jealous I have to use octane boost to even get 93 octane in CA.....Highest they sell at the pump is 91. (This means you should be fine considering its what people have to get here)
They have 100 in Tracy 7 bucks a gallon though lol
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I have been running both, the difference is pretty unnoticeable to me... Average mileage stayed right around 19.2 or so when I switched to 87 for a few tanks.

Can't tell if there's a power difference, seems to accelerate just as brutally fast.

Just out of curiosity, how does the motor determine that the octane level in the fuel has gone up or down when you change from 91 to 87 etc?
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Mines tuned for 93, wont use regular but these cars will relearn to run on lower octane personally I would not want less power - is the effect that dramatic ? I know with break in time + 93 + Bama tune / CAI this car became a beast - I can really feel the difference .
How many miles do you have now?
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They have 100 in Tracy 7 bucks a gallon though lol
I pay $7.00 for the bottle of octane boost that gets me to 93!!!

It's official everyone I am moving to Tracy........
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I pay $7.00 for the bottle of octane boost that gets me to 93!!!

It's official everyone I am moving to Tracy........
What kind of octane boost are you buying that even makes a difference. In order to even make a difference with the octane rating in your tank that little bottle would have to be 250 octane to make a difference in a 14 gallon tank. Think about it. Half a pint of octane boost in 14 gallons of 91 octane. Please. That stuff doesn't work. Toluene is 115 octane and I have to put in a gallon at the track to get me to 95 in half a tank. Sorry to burst your bubble
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I have been running both, the difference is pretty unnoticeable to me... Average mileage stayed right around 19.2 or so when I switched to 87 for a few tanks.

Can't tell if there's a power difference, seems to accelerate just as brutally fast.

Just out of curiosity, how does the motor determine that the octane level in the fuel has gone up or down when you change from 91 to 87 etc?
The computer has sensors I guess. I bought a Honda jet ski a couple years ago and they told me the computer could tell if I used 87 or 93 or what ever and it would advance or turn down the timing. I thought "Why can't they do that with cars?" and whamo! Ford puts the technology in the mustang and F150.
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How many miles do you have now?
about 3600.00 , just about to go in for first sceduled maintenance , seemed to me with break in time + 93 + tune and intake the car got more and more powerful (note) the " cold " air intakes arent much by themselves but with a tune to optimize the cars potential really wakes things up .
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about 3600.00 , just about to go in for first sceduled maintenance , seemed to me with break in time + 93 + tune and intake the car got more and more powerful (note) the " cold " air intakes arent much by themselves but with a tune to optimize the cars potential really wakes things up .
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about 3600.00 , just about to go in for first sceduled maintenance , seemed to me with break in time + 93 + tune and intake the car got more and more powerful (note) the " cold " air intakes arent much by themselves but with a tune to optimize the cars potential really wakes things up .
There's a few intake/tuner combos out there with custom tunes that are actually putting around 410 to the wheels on those two mods alone... Not bad for under 700 bucks.

Guys have videos running high 11s in the quarter with just air intake/tune/radials...

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What kind of octane boost are you buying that even makes a difference. In order to even make a difference with the octane rating in your tank that little bottle would have to be 250 octane to make a difference in a 14 gallon tank. Think about it. Half a pint of octane boost in 14 gallons of 91 octane. Please. That stuff doesn't work. Toluene is 115 octane and I have to put in a gallon at the track to get me to 95 in half a tank. Sorry to burst your bubble
Crap soo it really isn't worth it then....Thanks for the info I wont be wasting that cash anymore.

I was using a boost that was 104 octane and was told it would be able to get the extra 2 octane I wanted to fit my tune....

This is also MORE reason to move out of CA......
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Crap soo it really isn't worth it then....Thanks for the info I wont be wasting that cash anymore.

I was using a boost that was 104 octane and was told it would be able to get the extra 2 octane I wanted to fit my tune....

This is also MORE reason to move out of CA......
There is no truth in advertising with that stuff. The home depot sell toluene for about 10 bucks a gallon and I use that now. I used to buy the nos octane boost then the amsoil stuff and got laughed at at the track. I know toluene works because I load up the 93 octane tune and I can hear obvious ping and knock. Once I pour in the toluene it takes maybe 3 minutes and it's gone. Toluene,acetone and I forget the last one but it's on the shelf right next to those 2 and they will legitimately raise octane. And clean the fuel system so well you could eat from it. But be advised that to much will eat at your rubber seals. I use about 1 liter per half tank which is about 6 or 7 gallons and it seems to work.
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There is no truth in advertising with that stuff. The home depot sell toluene for about 10 bucks a gallon and I use that now. I used to buy the nos octane boost then the amsoil stuff and got laughed at at the track. I know toluene works because I load up the 93 octane tune and I can hear obvious ping and knock. Once I pour in the toluene it takes maybe 3 minutes and it's gone. Toluene,acetone and I forget the last one but it's on the shelf right next to those 2 and they will legitimately raise octane. And clean the fuel system so well you could eat from it. But be advised that to much will eat at your rubber seals. I use about 1 liter per half tank which is about 6 or 7 gallons and it seems to work.
Alright, thanks a ton....I'll give it a try next time I gas up and let you know.
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Alright, thanks a ton....I'll give it a try next time I gas up and let you know.
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Ok lets see if I can put down in words what I have been researching on the internet (this might get long, but I hope it is worth it.).
The octane rating is a % of octane to heptane (basically) and is the basic make up of gasoline. Heptane will spontaneously ignite at lower compression and octane at higher compression. So with the higher cylinder compression (high compression pistons or forced induction) you need higher octane. Now newer motors have knock sensors on them that tell the computer when the cylinder is knocking. The computer then has the ability to change parameters to resolve the knock. Some of these parameters are spark, fuel injection spray and valve timing. One might ask what these have to do with the octane rating or knocking (pinging) and the answer is that for pre-ignition several variables need to align (or miss-align). These variables are fuel ratio, volume of air allowed into the cylinder and spark timing. So if you use a lower octane rating, the engine will adjust parameters to match that rating. This usually means less advancement in the timing, possibly a little richer in the fuel ratio and a little less lift in the valve timing. What you see is that performance and mileage suffer at the edge. Under normal driving (everyday to and from work) you may not and most like would not notice any difference. Now adding a higher octane at the track than what your car can burn due to compression restrictions will just waist money! Doing so for daily driving is just wasting money.
Now if you think about how all of this is tied together, you also have a better understanding of how that new cold air intake (cold air, less restriction, denser charge in the cylinder, higher compression), new free flowing exhaust (better evacuation of the cylinder to let in more of the cold dense charge) and the new computer program (longer valve duration, possibly more spark advance, more fuel spray). All of these power enhancements will most likely point you towards having to use a higher octane rating.
A lot of people out on the internet say that you don’t need anything more than regular gas, but you really have to look at is what your car needs. If you have modified it, then you may need a higher octane rating.
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Stock 2011 5.0...I've been running on regular 87. At 2500 miles I started running midgrade 91. Have not noticed much difference in acceleration. I'm at 3800ish now.
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I got the 2010 gt and I was runnin 87 in mine for a week an switched to 93 and I noticed a difference thru mid range .pulls harder I'll never put 87 in my tank agin
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I got the 2010 gt and I was runnin 87 in mine for a week an switched to 93 and I noticed a difference thru mid range .pulls harder I'll never put 87 in my tank agin
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i agree,i use 93.if i spend a couple bucks more each time i fill up,and i get better performance than it is worth it
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I got the 2010 gt and I was runnin 87 in mine for a week an switched to 93 and I noticed a difference thru mid range .pulls harder I'll never put 87 in my tank agin
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If your after an octane boost that works toluene,acetone and xylene will raise octane significantly and if it's octane your after they will work. And readily available at the home depot for 10 bucks a gallon. 2 liters in a tank should light you up pretty good.
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If your after an octane boost that works toluene,acetone and xylene will raise octane significantly and if it's octane your after they will work. And readily available at the home depot for 10 bucks a gallon. 2 liters in a tank should light you up pretty good.
What's up bro?! Just curious to if your have tried this yourself?
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Yup.... I have. All 3 although not at the same time. I don't suggest mixing all 3.
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