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Old 05-07-2012, 04:48 PM   #71
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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

I don't get why people pout about the low end power loss? I only have 3.31s and when i shift at 7k it only drops to 5k, at 5k on most boss-stock dyno comparisons, its around the same, and starts to show gains at 5500 and the gains increase to redline, with a more aggressive gear, and shifting at 7500 rpm, the only time you should have any issue is first gear which would be so miniscule and the loss would probably help prevent tire spin... just my .02, BTW thanks for this right up, hopefully it will help my noob ass get this thing installed with ease this week.
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I don't get why people pout about the low end power loss? I only have 3.31s and when i shift at 7k it only drops to 5k, at 5k on most boss-stock dyno comparisons, its around the same, and starts to show gains at 5500 and the gains increase to redline, with a more aggressive gear, and shifting at 7500 rpm, the only time you should have any issue is first gear which would be so miniscule and the loss would probably help prevent tire spin... just my .02, BTW thanks for this right up, hopefully it will help my noob ass get this thing installed with ease this week.
Lol idk man I have the time slips to prove it that the stock is better in the quarter mile
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Lol idk man I have the time slips to prove it that the stock is better in the quarter mile
If you lost time with the boss then you either don't have the supporting mods, or you were launching/shifting way too low.
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Lol idk man I have the time slips to prove it that the stock is better in the quarter mile
What gears/supporting mods do you have? Auto/manual? Most importantly, who's you're tuner? The dynos don't lie, you should be making more power except for first which unless you have some stickys, would only help reduce tire spin. I'll do a before and after run with slips, with mail order bama tunes and will report back within the next few weeks
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What gears/supporting mods do you have? Auto/manual? Most importantly, who's you're tuner? The dynos don't lie, you should be making more power except for first which unless you have some stickys, would only help reduce tire spin. I'll do a before and after run with slips, with mail order bama tunes and will report back within the next few weeks
2011 6mt DRs 4.10 steeda cai cat back exhaust and bama tune launching at 6500 and shifting at 7400... Best I ran was a 12.3 consistent and stock intake ran a 12.0 at 108 cuz I glided across finish so I know that time is in the 11s just have been back in over a month gonna try again tonight if the rain holds off
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2011 6mt DRs 4.10 steeda cai cat back exhaust and bama tune launching at 6500 and shifting at 7400... Best I ran was a 12.3 consistent and stock intake ran a 12.0 at 108 cuz I glided across finish so I know that time is in the 11s just have been back in over a month gonna try again tonight if the rain holds off
I'd say it needs to exhale better, I have a catless lethal h pipe and I feel like it helped me out a lot, you could be right maybe it's not better in the 1/4, but you have pretty aggressive gears. How's your highway mpg?
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I'd say it needs to exhale better, I have a catless lethal h pipe and I feel like it helped me out a lot, you could be right maybe it's not better in the 1/4, but you have pretty aggressive gears. How's your highway mpg?
The highway mileage was better than stock... My theory is the boss is made for road courses that's why it gives you good mid to high range power it wasn't built for the strip
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Most of my pulls will be from a 40 roll anyway, but to really see the low end difference I'll do a comparison with my buddy from a slow roll like 5mph before and after and video it.
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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

Got my new Boss 302 intake in the mail! Be here tomorrow yeaaaaaa!!!!
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Got my new Boss 302 intake in the mail! Be here tomorrow yeaaaaaa!!!!
Will you be doing any type of before/after runs? I know dyno runs can be pricey but so many people are skeptical of this bolt on
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Will you be doing any type of before/after runs? I know dyno runs can be pricey but so many people are skeptical of this bolt on
I don't think that any more dyno runs are going to prove anything to anyone. Those with proper supporting mods and willing to wind it out high enough in the RPM range reap the benefits. Those who don't, well ... don't.
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I don't think that any more dyno runs are going to prove anything to anyone. Those with proper supporting mods and willing to wind it out high enough in the RPM range reap the benefits. Those who don't, well ... don't.
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Tune with a high (7600-7800) RPM limiter, offroad X/H pipe or LT Headers, sticky tires for high-RPM launches, and gears (3.73 or 3.90) help too.
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Tune with a high (7600-7800) RPM limiter, offroad X/H pipe or LT Headers, sticky tires for high-RPM launches, and gears (3.73 or 3.90) help too.
Looks like I qualify aside from gears 3.31 :/ but my shifts from 7k drop to 5k so if I shift at 7.5k it should be okay... Right??
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Looks like I qualify aside from gears 3.31 :/ but my shifts from 7k drop to 5k so if I shift at 7.5k it should be okay... Right??
I'm not an expert on Boss Intake Manifold shift points, but I think 7500 would be around the lowest you want to shift.
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I'm not an expert on Boss Intake Manifold shift points, but I think 7500 would be around the lowest you want to shift.
I'm sure it makes power beyond that, but people are concerned about the longevity of their engines with stock internals
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I'm sure it makes power beyond that, but people are concerned about the longevity of their engines with stock internals
Well, I suppose that's the decision that you have to make. Are you more concerned about your car running for 150,000 miles or putting down good times at the track...
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Looks nice, I need to break down and order one of those strut tower braces. I'd love to find an aftermarket one that's lighter and/or stronger but there don't seem to be many options.
BMR makes a nice light strut tower brace that fits the Boss 302
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BMR makes a nice light strut tower brace that fits the Boss 302
Yes they do. It's a toss up between that and the OEM one at this price.

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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

Thanks for this tutorial write up! I found that this was the best write-up anywhere I looked. I've not run at the track with mine yet however, I can definitely tell that there is a significant power boost up top. No doubt the car is faster now! I did all of my modifications as soon as I got the car, I went with the Boss Intake, CAI, Steeda tune and exhaust work, Eibach Pro kit, etc.
A side note to anyone coming behind me and looking for helpful tips, I was able to do the install with two time and money saving changes. 1.) I bought a $185 installation kit but in the end, I used some rubber hose and a couple of hose clamps in place of one of my hoses and returned the entire installation kit as I did not see a benefit to using it… 2.) With the fuel system, I pulled the fuel rails up as a pair and then rotated them together to the driver side of the engine compartment. I then replace the intake manifold without depressurizing the fuel rail. Putting the new IM on was more challenging than the stock IM removal but it ultimately made the install less complicated…
Thanks again for this tutorial!
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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

Not a problem man. Glad it was useful for you.
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Not a problem man. Glad it was useful for you.
Hey jarrod what size/length hose did you use?
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You talking about this hose?

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Yes that's the one, what's that bolt used for?
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Remove the rubber insulators as they won't be needed. Using a bolt, a flat washer, & a lock washer (the lock washer goes between the head of the bolt & the flat washer) attach the purge valve to the engine block. It was kind of hard to get a good pic of this, but hopefully you get the gist. Plug the electrical connector back in & re-connect the purge line.
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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

I installed the Boss power pack from american muscle and it went smooth, araid CIA fit but needed some coaxing....and agree with the fuel depressuring it needs to be, luckly I was ready for that... but its a nice boost..not much low end torque though...
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I installed the Boss power pack from american muscle and it went smooth, araid CIA fit but needed some coaxing....and agree with the fuel depressuring it needs to be, luckly I was ready for that... but its a nice boost..not much low end torque though...
Yeah low end kinda went bye bye, now I don't spin 2nd as much, kinda a good thing though!
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Re: Install of the Boss 302 intake manifold!

Hey guys I installed the Boss intake and I gotta say that who ever said its a waste of time? I have to disagree....The Intake does take away alot of low end torque, and i wasnt happy about that, BUT.....It will more than satisfy you when you get the rpms up going thru the gears...!!!! IT is a beast, it never quits and from 2nd gear to 5th its AMAZING!! I am new to this and I dont want to step on toes here but Im only talking from experience, and I know because I drive it everyday, and I made up for the hp loss on the lower end with other mods...and my car is VERY FUN TO DRIVE!

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Oh and i know someone will ask this so I will just answer it, what I did to get the low end HP back was I put 4.10 gears in with aluminum flywheel and Driveshaft, and dont let the reviews on aluminum flywheels scare you, its so much fun to have those in there, I have more low end torque now then I did with the stock manifold and its very FUN to shift thru the gears now , the fw and ds work so well together and it really made it a rocket..Headers are going on this week...and Im getting a dyno done on monday 8/20 and will post hp, I want to see just what my mods have done.
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pretty cool man, kinda jealous of the ds and fw, not the 4.10's though lol
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long time viewer, first time poster. I heard mix reviews of the boss 302 manni (to include this forum/msg board whatever it is) even after my wife bought it for me for a surprise last Christmas, I was hesitant to install it. I figured with the torque loss in really wouldn't be worth the hassle. I installed other MODs instead, Steeda CAI, bamma 93 tune, 373 gears and axle backs. That is until this last week I got bored and decided to give the boss a shot with an install planned for the weekend. With a call to Bama on tues i was ready for the weekend by Wednesday (thanks bama for your outstanding customer service as usual). I had the Boss installed in a little under 2 hrs after work on Friday, by far the hardest part was getting the dang harness detached on the stock mani. Stupid rivets.

Anyways, what a waste.. I should have installed this MONTHS AGO!!!! This thing is BAD A$$ and by far worth every red cent. The power gain is incredible as everyone else has said it just keeps pulling and pulling and pulling all the way through the power band. My car is faster. I know it, because I drive it all the time. I don’t have a dyno or slips to prove it but its faster.

So don’t be like me, and wait on this product. It is by far (tune aside) the best mod I have. I would say maybe the 373s as BAMA informed me would benefit you if you don’t already have that gear setup or higher.

in short dont believe the boss haters!!
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long time viewer, first time poster. I heard mix reviews of the boss 302 manni (to include this forum/msg board whatever it is) even after my wife bought it for me for a surprise last Christmas, I was hesitant to install it. I figured with the torque loss in really wouldn't be worth the hassle. I installed other MODs instead, Steeda CAI, bamma 93 tune, 373 gears and axle backs. That is until this last week I got bored and decided to give the boss a shot with an install planned for the weekend. With a call to Bama on tues i was ready for the weekend by Wednesday (thanks bama for your outstanding customer service as usual). I had the Boss installed in a little under 2 hrs after work on Friday, by far the hardest part was getting the dang harness detached on the stock mani. Stupid rivets.

Anyways, what a waste.. I should have installed this MONTHS AGO!!!! This thing is BAD A$$ and by far worth every red cent. The power gain is incredible as everyone else has said it just keeps pulling and pulling and pulling all the way through the power band. My car is faster. I know it, because I drive it all the time. I don’t have a dyno or slips to prove it but its faster.

So don’t be like me, and wait on this product. It is by far (tune aside) the best mod I have. I would say maybe the 373s as BAMA informed me would benefit you if you don’t already have that gear setup or higher.

in short dont believe the boss haters!!
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Hey guys I installed the Boss intake and I gotta say that who ever said its a waste of time? I have to disagree....The Intake does take away alot of low end torque, and i wasnt happy about that, BUT.....It will more than satisfy you when you get the rpms up going thru the gears...!!!! IT is a beast, it never quits and from 2nd gear to 5th its AMAZING!! I am new to this and I dont want to step on toes here but Im only talking from experience, and I know because I drive it everyday, and I made up for the hp loss on the lower end with other mods...and my car is VERY FUN TO DRIVE!

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Oh and i know someone will ask this so I will just answer it, what I did to get the low end HP back was I put 4.10 gears in with aluminum flywheel and Driveshaft, and dont let the reviews on aluminum flywheels scare you, its so much fun to have those in there, I have more low end torque now then I did with the stock manifold and its very FUN to shift thru the gears now , the fw and ds work so well together and it really made it a rocket..Headers are going on this week...and Im getting a dyno done on monday 8/20 and will post hp, I want to see just what my mods have done.
I have to disagree on the low end torque loss. There was hardly any loss down low, nothing I could notice and just more power in the mid to top end. I still have the factory 3.73 gears too.
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I have to disagree on the low end torque loss. There was hardly any loss down low, nothing I could notice and just more power in the mid to top end. I still have the factory 3.73 gears too.
I also thought the torque loss was negligible, if any, and was more than offset by the off-road X I put on later. I think the only people who have issues with low end torque are the ones trying to drag race on street tires that can't launch at a high enough RPM to keep it from bogging.
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