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Old 05-31-2011, 07:36 PM   #71
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Not trying to be smart, but you don't think a modded 2011 V6 could beat your car? They are 300+hp stock correct?
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Not trying to be smart, but you don't think a modded 2011 V6 could beat your car? They are 300+hp stock correct?
hp is just a number to me. there are way to many variables to just count hp. my car is pushing around 350 hp right now, and 360 torque. the new v6 shows 315hp but only 275 torque. plus the driver makes a big difference. they run 13.7 in the quarter where i run high 11 low 12s. they have a way to go. i work at a dealership and ive driven several. and i raced one. i left it bad. so like i said hp is just a number to me.

and my grandpa has a 69 gto says 315 hp 270 torque. and he hangs right with me.

its going to take a bit for a new mustang v6 to beat me. it will need more than bolt ons. it will need some sort of boost. then it will probably beat me
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Not trying to be smart, but you don't think a modded 2011 V6 could beat your car? They are 300+hp stock correct?
+1 on this but it's always gonna come down to who has the most power adders and how much hp they are pushing.
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So what do you forsee happening if we raced with my 266hp & 364tq seeing how hp is just a #? I've always heard that hp is what you talk about and tq is what you feel!
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ill be surprised if a v6 ever comes and whips my cobra lol
welll technically I didn't say they would beat a cobra or specify which year GT

But tell you what Texas when i get done with college and all my postgrad we shld meet half way and have a race, u down?
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So what do you forsee happening if we raced with my 266hp & 364tq seeing how hp is just a #? I've always heard that hp is what you talk about and tq is what you feel!
what do you exactly do you drive? and like i said there are a ton of variables.
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just way to many things to calculate when trying to compare without racing
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welll technically I didn't say they would beat a cobra or specify which year GT

But tell you what Texas when i get done with college and all my postgrad we shld meet half way and have a race, u down?
lol i know. im just saying i will be surprised when one does. and sure we can meet up. i need an excuse to take a road trip anyways.
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lol i know. im just saying i will be surprised when one does. and sure we can meet up. i need an excuse to take a road trip anyways.
Itll be awhile till ill be able to but im down at some point. Gotta get my supercharger and bunch of other things too.
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Itll be awhile till ill be able to but im down at some point. Gotta get my supercharger and bunch of other things too.
dont wait too long. my supercharger will be here soon too lol
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dont wait too long. my supercharger will be here soon too lol
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lol i did the research. and with the supercharger. i will basically have a 04 engine in my 97 cobra with around 450hp and 470 torque. and guestimated 1/4 mile times of high 10s to mid 11s. that will be all i want
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hp is just a number to me. there are way to many variables to just count hp. my car is pushing around 350 hp right now, and 360 torque. the new v6 shows 315hp but only 275 torque. plus the driver makes a big difference. they run 13.7 in the quarter where i run high 11 low 12s. they have a way to go. i work at a dealership and ive driven several. and i raced one. i left it bad. so like i said hp is just a number to me.

and my grandpa has a 69 gto says 315 hp 270 torque. and he hangs right with me.

its going to take a bit for a new mustang v6 to beat me. it will need more than bolt ons. it will need some sort of boost. then it will probably beat me

What else is done to that 01 motor to get it to 350 and are you talking whp?
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lol i did the research. and with the supercharger. i will basically have a 04 engine in my 97 cobra with around 450hp and 470 torque. and guestimated 1/4 mile times of high 10s to mid 11s. that will be all i want
Alright then well race and maybe by then ill crack my hood and it might say 5.0 on the engine, but i promise it will still be a V6

Those extra two cylinders are just there for cooling down the engine eh hem
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What else is done to that 01 motor to get it to 350 and are you talking whp?
lol i wish. that is what they said the crank hp should be at. rwh is around 320. depends on the weather here. well you know you live in texas too. the bipolar state. cold mornings the car runs awesome. then the hot humid mid day just kills the performance. and a few things are the bolt on mods and the sct custom tune, id say that the tune really helped my upper rpm range out
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lol i wish. that is what they said the crank hp should be at. rwh is around 320. depends on the weather here. well you know you live in texas too. the bipolar state. cold mornings the car runs awesome. then the hot humid mid day just kills the performance. and a few things are the bolt on mods and the sct custom tune, id say that the tune really helped my upper rpm range out

That's what I was figuring since it's a stock 01,315/320. That's about wheRe my 99 Cobra was at.
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That's what I was figuring since it's a stock 01,315/320. That's about wheRe my 99 Cobra was at.
yup. still enough hp to leave your tires on the road. lol
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lol i did the research. and with the supercharger. i will basically have a 04 engine in my 97 cobra with around 450hp and 470 torque. and guestimated 1/4 mile times of high 10s to mid 11s. that will be all i want
You could definitely hit those times with the right tires/suspension, you have an awesome power to weight ratio in that thing
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my car is pushing around 350 hp right now, and 360 torque. i run high 11 low 12s.
No offense, but I HIGHLY doubt you are running 11's or even 12's would be pushing it. Considering that the new 411hp 5.0 runs mid-high 12's stock. My 03 gt was sitting around 300hp/tq and would maybe of run mid-high 13's. Not to mention that stock 03/04 cobras ran 13.5's in the 1/4 stock.
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Big deal. Normally aspirated, vs. Supercharged 4valve-and the S/C car wins . That Terminator better be able to dust off the 5.0. There would have to be a 'no-driving-idiot', in the `03-to NOT beat the 5.0..

ok. i was proving a point. he said that it wouldnt win. i showed it would. so why the sarcasm???
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ok. i was proving a point. he said that it wouldnt win. i showed it would. so why the sarcasm???
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Guess you didnt see the vid where that same Cobra got smoked from a dig?
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2004 Cobra mods are ...Cold air intake, 4 pound lower, mid length headers w/ high-flow cats Bassani exhaust, straight axle conversion, Nitto NT05's and SCT tune. 2011 Mustang 5.0 Auto with Sct tune, Steeda cai, Roush ax back, 410 gears on stock tires

Guess you didnt see the vid where that same Cobra got smoked from a dig?
smoked? are you kidding. i call smoked like two three car lengths. not one car length. and so its a close race. point was is that he was saying it would beat an 04 by a second or so in a quarter mile. and one car length is not a second
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smoked? are you kidding. i call smoked like two three car lengths. not one car length. and so its a close race. point was is that he was saying it would beat an 04 by a second or so in a quarter mile. and one car length is not a second
A fender is a close race....not a length.
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Big deal. Normally aspirated, vs. Supercharged 4valve-and the S/C car wins . That Terminator better be able to dust off the 5.0. There would have to be a 'no-driving-idiot', in the `03-to NOT beat the 5.0..

oh. by the way. the new 5.0 is 4 valve
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A fender is a close race....not a length.
i agree thats close. but when some one says smoked im expecting it to be a big lead. and the new 5.0 got the launch better. the cobra, if it had a good launch it would have been real close or the cobra would have won.
and why is this such a big deal. both cars are repectable. i was just trying to show that the 04 cobra runs better than a 13.5 in a 1/4. and it is possible for me to run high 11s and mid 12s
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Im not debating that they arent respectable cars,I love the Termis.But you posted a vid saying the Termi beat the 5.0 with little mods when it was a roll race and the Termi had solid rear,stickies 4lb lower,tune and full exhaust and the 5.0 had tune,intake,axelback,4.10 and stock meat.There is no doubt the Termi had him at a roll but to do what it did at a dig with cai and tune....thats pretty impressive.
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Im not debating that they arent respectable cars,I love the Termis.But you posted a vid saying the Termi beat the 5.0 with little mods when it was a roll race and the Termi had solid rear,stickies 4lb lower,tune and full exhaust and the 5.0 had tune,intake,axelback,4.10 and stock meat.There is no doubt the Termi had him at a roll but to do what it did at a dig with cai and tune....thats pretty impressive.
well im sure the 4.10 gears had a play in it. and im not dissing the new 5.0, its a power house. and all the mods listed were minor bolt on mods. no internal engine work. and i know this will sound stupid. but what is 4lb lower pully do for you???
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If anything those 4.10s on the 5.0 with stock tires and no LCAs would probably make him spin even more from a dig so I imagine it was a drivers race.The 5.0 driver stated he spun through 1st and 2nd,just not as much as the Termi I guess.Those upper and lower pulley combos on the Termis will up the boost and along with other simple mods turn them into a Beast.Gotta love a screaming Termi!
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lol i did the research. and with the supercharger. i will basically have a 04 engine in my 97 cobra with around 450hp and 470 torque. and guestimated 1/4 mile times of high 10s to mid 11s. that will be all i want
Installing a supercharger on a 97 cobra is not anywhere near the same as a 03/04 cobra. You should research somewhere else. Terminators can run deep in the 9's on the stock longblock. 97 cobras cannot.

If this is a full weight car you need a good bit more hp to run high 10's, unless you are doing an auto swap.
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Installing a supercharger on a 97 cobra is not anywhere near the same as a 03/04 cobra. You should research somewhere else. Terminators can run deep in the 9's on the stock longblock. 97 cobras cannot.

If this is a full weight car you need a good bit more hp to run high 10's, unless you are doing an auto swap.
I think he swapped the engine it's a new cobra motor?
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Installing a supercharger on a 97 cobra is not anywhere near the same as a 03/04 cobra. You should research somewhere else. Terminators can run deep in the 9's on the stock longblock. 97 cobras cannot.

If this is a full weight car you need a good bit more hp to run high 10's, unless you are doing an auto swap.
He has a 01 Cobra motor in his 97 Cobra.
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Installing a supercharger on a 97 cobra is not anywhere near the same as a 03/04 cobra. You should research somewhere else. Terminators can run deep in the 9's on the stock longblock. 97 cobras cannot.

If this is a full weight car you need a good bit more hp to run high 10's, unless you are doing an auto swap.
mine is not a 97 engine....
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He has a 01 Cobra motor in his 97 Cobra.
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How much for a Roush 5.0, about the same MSRP as a Boss? I just watch the Top Gear episode from like 2007 when they reviewed the GT500 and the opinion flat out was that Ford seriously beefed up the motor and performance but the suspension and handling was absolute garbage! I realize that Ford has beefed up the performance & suspension as well as the lipstick BUT the Boss 302 to me looks like a car straight out of The Transformers. It's too sissy lala for my tastes and I would have loved it so much more had they kept with styling cues from the original Boss 302's. I'll be interested to see what the new Mach 1's look like when they are released BUT I'm not holding my breath. If the design worked before and people bought it up, why fix something that isn't broken!?!?
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mine is not a 97 engine....
Different heads, cams, pistons, and rods, but yeah its the same displacement so I guess it's almost the same thing lol.
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