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Old 10-11-2011, 12:32 PM   #1
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Gotta laugh here

There is guy who works for me that bought a 2009 Charger R/t. So I bought an M3 to shut him up about how "powerful" his American Charger was against German cars. I sold my M3 and stay on top of the pack I bought the 5.0 and ran him stupid on the autobahn. So in his frustration He just ordered a 2012 Charger SRT8 470hp and 470 torque.... at 54k. Yes you read that correctly FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS and some change for a Charger.... just so he can shut me up. Anyone know a good Procharger or turbo set up? LOL
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U don't need a FI to beat him
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There is guy who works for me that bought a 2009 Charger R/t. So I bought an M3 to shut him up about how "powerful" his American Charger was against German cars. I sold my M3 and stay on top of the pack I bought the 5.0 and ran him stupid on the autobahn. So in his frustration He just ordered a 2012 Charger SRT8 470hp and 470 torque.... at 54k. Yes you read that correctly FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS and some change for a Charger.... just so he can shut me up. Anyone know a good Procharger or turbo set up? LOL
Hate to say it but he gets a lot of car for that 54K. I love my 5.0 but they are the better car all around. better interior/better looks. And they have more power and on average about 8/10 times stock VS stock will beat a 5.0. Just look them up. Look what real people are running with them. They are running on average 12.3-12.6. While the 5.0 on average runs 12.5-13.0. Our fastest time is faster then theirs. 12.1 to their 12.3. But that is also a base 5.0. They have no real Base. As they are all actually loaded minus little stuff like GPS.

Also on a roll race stock vs stock he will beat you every time. Specially if you have an auto. His weight don't effect him and his gearing is just as good. Not to mention he makes 430whp/420wtq bone stock. (average they dyno'ing)

Now you don't need FI to beat him. Get a tune and cold air. Off road x pipe. that is it. He will never know you have it for one besides cold air. And also you can gain about 20whp just from it.


The biggest thing we have over them is there is still no tuning available for them cars. No one has cracked the rolling codes of the PCM.

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5.0 has steeda cold air, flowmasters,x-pipe,mdx clutch and 91 tune-6 speed. 392 is stock-auto. both on street tires. 0-100 race.
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Are we talking about a challenger or a charger?
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2012 CHARGER SRT8....... there is no doubt it is a BAD MAMA JAMMA, I just think it is funny that a guy would buy a 54k car just so he could beat the 5.0.
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i dont race 4 doors
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2012 CHARGER SRT8....... there is no doubt it is a BAD MAMA JAMMA, I just think it is funny that a guy would buy a 54k car just so he could beat the 5.0.
Agreed I paid 30 flat for my car if I put 24k In to my car their is no Other stock car that could touch me!
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2012 CHARGER SRT8....... there is no doubt it is a BAD MAMA JAMMA, I just think it is funny that a guy would buy a 54k car just so he could beat the 5.0.
My bad I thought you said chally...The charger though has the same engine. And don't really weigh no more then the Challenger. It does run about an average of .3-.5 slower then the Challenger though. Its all in the tranny. Also I do think the knew CHargers are the best yet.


Oh you will beat him. THe tranny in them sucks. They shoudl have gave it a manual option.





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Don't be afraid to lose. I spanked plenty of mustangs/vettes/camaro's in my 4dr.
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The Charger will have its place for sure......... as far as not racing cars with 4 doors, there are plenty of Saloons that will decimate most 2 door Sports coupes. I just sold one...... Prior to the 5.0 there was not a Mustang (Shelby or other wise) that I lost to with the E90 (4 Door) M3. A few that pulled me like a raped ape from a roll up to 150mph, but 150 and beyond was all mine. The 5.0 has just the right amount of torque, hp and balance to get off the line with out burning through seconds as well as tires to get off the line. Once I lost the 0-120mph dig to my buddy's 5.0....repeatedly. I decided the 5.0 was the best Sports coupe on the planet for its price. So I sold the M3 and bought "The Reaper" lol
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My bad I thought you said chally...The charger though has the same engine. And don't really weigh no more then the Challenger. It does run about an average of .3-.5 slower then the Challenger though. Its all in the tranny. Also I do think the knew CHargers are the best yet.


Oh you will beat him. THe tranny in them sucks. They shoudl have gave it a manual option.





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Don't be afraid to lose. I spanked plenty of mustangs/vettes/camaro's in my 4dr.
You have a beautiful car, bro
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i dont race 4 doors
Jump on a grinning old man in Benz with AMG on it anywhere, particularly on the trunk.. He'll be gone before you get the clutch out..

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I bought a relatively stock Mustang, as it took 725rwhp to be in the same car length as my liter bike..  I've decided all cars are slow...
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You have a beautiful car, bro
I don't have a Charger. This was my 4 door killer. I now have a 2011 5.0.

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I don't have a Charger. This was my 4 door killer. I now have a 2011 5.0.


NICE.... Sounds 100% MEAN!!!
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There is guy who works for me that bought a 2009 Charger R/t. So I bought an M3 to shut him up about how "powerful" his American Charger was against German cars. I sold my M3 and stay on top of the pack I bought the 5.0 and ran him stupid on the autobahn. So in his frustration He just ordered a 2012 Charger SRT8 470hp and 470 torque.... at 54k. Yes you read that correctly FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS and some change for a Charger.... just so he can shut me up. Anyone know a good Procharger or turbo set up? LOL
Just goes to show that you can even make a brick fast if you throw enough money at it.
Get a Hellion or HP turbo kit and he won't know what happened when you just flat run off and leave him in your dust and exhaust fumes.
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Just goes to show that you can even make a brick fast if you throw enough money at it.
Get a Hellion or HP turbo kit and he won't know what happened when you just flat run off and leave him in your dust and exhaust fumes.
I am actually looking at this....

Mustang 5.0 (2011) Supercharger Kit


Destroys ALL...lol
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I am actually looking at this....

Mustang 5.0 (2011) Supercharger Kit


Destroys ALL...lol
That'll do the job too.
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G8 GT 361hp RWD stock. Faster then the 2010 and prior mustang GT's in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile.(stock have been 13.3's. Few bolt ons and I was at 390whp. and running mid 12's in a 4000lb 4dr. Beating a couple buddies supercharged 05-2010 Mustang GT's. Added Spray and ran from low 12's to mid 11's depending on the shot I was using. Mustangs/Camaro's/Vette's all used t o get pissed when I beat them at the track or on the street.

The best was a SRT8 charger in FT. Knox that I handed his butt to him at a local 1/8 mile track there. He later watched me beat a 427 Roush with some bolt ons and a stock Z06. He wasn't so upset then.


They also make a GXP version that has the same LS3 as the Camaro SS. It has been as fast as 12.8's bone stock.

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I am actually looking at this....

Mustang 5.0 (2011) Supercharger Kit


Destroys ALL...lol
Any reason want the KB over other Superchargers?

Few others have proven to go faster with less mods and cost less. Reason I ask.

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There is guy who works for me that bought a 2009 Charger R/t. So I bought an M3 to shut him up about how "powerful" his American Charger was against German cars. I sold my M3 and stay on top of the pack I bought the 5.0 and ran him stupid on the autobahn. So in his frustration He just ordered a 2012 Charger SRT8 470hp and 470 torque.... at 54k. Yes you read that correctly FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS and some change for a Charger.... just so he can shut me up. Anyone know a good Procharger or turbo set up? LOL
Also post some pics of that interior...I didn't think I would like the red look...But from avator it looks bad ***.
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G8 GT 361hp RWD stock. Faster then the 2010 and prior mustang GT's in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile.(stock have been 13.3's. Few bolt ons and I was at 390whp. and running mid 12's in a 4000lb 4dr. Beating a couple buddies supercharged 05-2010 Mustang GT's. Added Spray and ran from low 12's to mid 11's depending on the shot I was using. Mustangs/Camaro's/Vette's all used t o get pissed when I beat them at the track or on the street.

The best was a SRT8 charger in FT. Knox that I handed his butt to him at a local 1/8 mile track there. He later watched me beat a 427 Roush with some bolt ons and a stock Z06. He wasn't so upset then.

They also make a GXP version that has the same LS3 as the Camaro SS. It has been as fast as 12.8's bone stock.

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Any reason want the KB over other Superchargers?

Few others have proven to go faster with less mods and cost less. Reason I ask.

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Also post some pics of that interior...I didn't think I would like the red look...But from avator it looks bad ***.
When I read that link it says they have most room to add HP w/o modding the S/C set up. They also claim w/ their TB you can go as high as 1400hp(flywheel I assume). Their words not mine. I personally haven't herd anything bad about KB blowers. The kit he is looking at is all inclusive, injectors, CAI, etc.. They also mention their build quality V. Others.. Again it's what they say, not me..
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i dont race 4 doors
NOt to mention all the 4DR of these that are running around me. I know least 3 that make 650-730whp. And least 5 that make over 500whp. They are super nasty. WIll most likely be my next car.

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Oh and your right the avatar makes that int look sick.. Grew to hate the red in my first GT..
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When I read that link it says they have most room to add HP w/o modding the S/C set up. They also claim w/ their TB you can go as high as 1400hp(flywheel I assume). Their words not mine. I personally haven't herd anything bad about KB blowers. The kit he is looking at is all inclusive, injectors, CAI, etc.. They also mention their build quality V. Others.. Again it's what they say, not me..
KB are nice SC but the 1400who is also with other bolt ons. And race gas etc. I know a few people that have them on 2011+. From what I have read that is also the 4.2L KB that is 1400hp rated. You will never make that on a stock engine or with out race gas. Some thing to think about.

The Roush TVS is cheaper and showed to be just as good. Make same power and run better times so far.

Then you have Centri blowers(prochargers/Vortec/Paxton) that are one the fastest 5.0's yet.

All I am saying is do some research. Look at all the pro's and con's.
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No doubt. I like KB for roots, and Procharger for centrifugal.. No FI for me though..
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Oh and your right the avatar makes that int look sick.. Grew to hate the red in my first GT..

I LOVE the red... Black and red is a great combo.... I could do without the white stripe though
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$54k for a charger?!! Cars ugly and I would much rather have a gt500... Keep in mind this is also coming from a mustang owner.. Hehe
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$54k for a charger?!! Cars ugly and I would much rather have a gt500... Keep in mind this is also coming from a mustang owner.. Hehe
the new are ugly as hell its looks like a charger and and challenget muxed together
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the new are ugly as hell its looks like a charger and and challenget muxed together
That is the GREAT thing about open forums....... I personally think the new Charger is bad azz and definitely a step in the right direction for Dodge... if it were not almost the price of an M3 or a C63 AMG Merc.

In all seriousness..... I can dream of FI all I want. Fact is, my mechanical skills are not up to par to install one myself and being in Germany.... well lets just say my options are limited to shops that I would trust to install one on my car to... NONE. I will have to wait until I get Stateside again.
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get a cts-v and be done with it!
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get a cts-v and be done with it!
NEVER.... I have never seen one in person, but the pics and video I have seen give the impression of an ugly chick with a HUGE Azz. Cannot knock the performance of it but... by the same token, if Megan Fox was a car of lesser performance potential than lets say.... Rosanne Barr......... I am driving Megan Fox everyday of the week and twice on wednesday
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That is the GREAT thing about open forums....... I personally think the new Charger is bad azz and definitely a step in the right direction for Dodge... if it were not almost the price of an M3 or a C63 AMG Merc.

In all seriousness..... I can dream of FI all I want. Fact is, my mechanical skills are not up to par to install one myself and being in Germany.... well lets just say my options are limited to shops that I would trust to install one on my car to... NONE. I will have to wait until I get Stateside again.
I think they look sweet too.. The back compared the the back of the new mustang(I also like) charger hands down. Love the taillight design.

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NEVER.... I have never seen one in person, but the pics and video I have seen give the impression of an ugly chick with a HUGE Azz. Cannot knock the performance of it but... by the same token, if Megan Fox was a car of lesser performance potential than lets say.... Rosanne Barr......... I am driving Megan Fox everyday of the week and twice on wednesday
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get a cts-v and be done with it!
If I could afford one I would have one. 4DR or coupe. They are nasty as hell. Seen a one hand a GT500 its *** both bone stock.

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I need to inherit like 15 million so I can spend least 2 million on the cars that I want..LOL
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If I could afford one I would have one. 4DR or coupe. They are nasty as hell. Seen a one hand a GT500 its *** both bone stock.
They are beasts performance wise no doubt.......... but so ugly that GM should have been fined for littering when it was born.
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They are beasts performance wise no doubt.......... but so ugly that GM should have been fined for littering when it was born.
Man I just don't see where you think ugly..Every one to there own I guess.



Then you have the 1000hp TT Hennessy version.
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Man I just don't see where you think ugly..Every one to there own I guess.

Then you have the 1000hp TT Hennessy version.
I 100% agree with wnt2gofst If I had the money I would have one over a Stang any day of the week! The car gives u sick performance and luxury to the gills! Don't care what anyone says the CTS-V is top rated in my book.
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