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Old 10-23-2011, 01:28 PM   #1
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Mis-shift damage?

Hey guys,

Went to the track on Friday, and during one of the runs, I think I mis-shifted (all I remember is the gauges glowing red and the tires locking up before I pushed the clutch in). I've driven the mustang several times since then, and I haven't noticed anything different. I also let it sit at idle with the hood open and I didn't hear anything weird. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about bent push-rods, but I'm still a little worried that I may have bent a valve or knicked a piston. So my question is, if some damage occured, should I already know about it? If so, what would be the warning signs? I expect I would get some pinging sound or some sort of mis fire, but so far I haven't heard or felt anything out of the ordinary.

Thanks in advance. Any help is appreciated.
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SO basically you went into a gear lower then you was in causing it to red line hard core.

Anyway if you had an issue you would know it. The check engine light or wrenches would come on. A misfire or something.

SO what you run?
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SO basically you went into a gear lower then you was in causing it to red line hard core.

Anyway if you had an issue you would know it. The check engine light or wrenches would come on. A misfire or something.

SO what you run?
Yeah I figured I would hear something by now. Idk, I'm just paranoid since its still a brand new car.

I was able to run a 13.5 that night but later it got cold and I couldn't get traction. The best I've run is a 13.3. But I'm completely stock with all season tires and 3.55 gears.
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More practice and you will get some 12's. I need your gears. LOL...The 4.10's I think are going to be to much with the SC.
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1st seccond 1st BOOM!!! HAHAHA ....sorry I could not help my self, but we have all been there one time or another weather its at the track in front of the buddys or sitting next to the super hot chick that loves mustangs that you were just trying to impress. as far as the car goes I think you'll be fine. dont treat it any different and if it blows up bring it in under warrenty
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More practice and you will get some 12's. I need your gears. LOL...The 4.10's I think are going to be to much with the SC.
Lol, yeah. I got these gears on purpose because I'm planning on getting a supercharger at some point down the road. First item for next year is a good set of tires.

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1st seccond 1st BOOM!!! HAHAHA ....sorry I could not help my self, but we have all been there one time or another weather its at the track in front of the buddys or sitting next to the super hot chick that loves mustangs that you were just trying to impress. as far as the car goes I think you'll be fine. dont treat it any different and if it blows up bring it in under warrenty
Yeah, I think I'm a little less worried now, but I was going crazy the night of. I'm thinking I should be ok since no new sounds have shown up. The fact that this type of thing is not totally uncommon makes me feel a little better too. Granted this is my first manual car, but I felt so foolish after that run.
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Lol, yeah. I got these gears on purpose because I'm planning on getting a supercharger at some point down the road. First item for next year is a good set of tires.

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Yeah, I think I'm a little less worried now, but I was going crazy the night of. I'm thinking I should be ok since no new sounds have shown up. The fact that this type of thing is not totally uncommon makes me feel a little better too. Granted this is my first manual car, but I felt so foolish after that run.
I did the same thing, I was racing a gto and shifted from third back to second instead of forth and almost put the car in the ditch, same glowing red in the dash. Don't worry though, sure yer cars fine!
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Yeah I figured I would hear something by now. Idk, I'm just paranoid since its still a brand new car.

I was able to run a 13.5 that night but later it got cold and I couldn't get traction. The best I've run is a 13.3. But I'm completely stock with all season tires and 3.55 gears.
Same gears, same tires and I was at the same track as Mr. Skyline here. Traction was an utter joke that night, I think I would have been able to get into 12s with better weather and a few more passes.
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We need to trade rear ends. LOL
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I am positive, you simply were rev'd too high when you mis-shifted, hit red line and the computer shut you down which can be misinterpreted as wheels "locking up". I have had it happen a few times when I hit redline on the autobahn.... kinda scarey when you are not expecting it.
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I am positive, you simply were rev'd too high when you mis-shifted, hit red line and the computer shut you down which can be misinterpreted as wheels "locking up". I have had it happen a few times when I hit redline on the autobahn.... kinda scarey when you are not expecting it.
I'm not sure...I know that I had trouble getting into 3rd (I think I hit the gate between 1st and 3rd) before getting in gear. When I did get in gear and let off the clutch, that stuff happened. I've hit redline and experienced the cut in power a few times myself, but this seemed more violent. This along with my rpms jumping up as soon as I let off the clutch is what leads me to believe that I shifted into the wrong gear. However, I think the fact that my mph dropped a little before I engaged the gear might have saved me from some real bad damage. Idk...I try to think back to the specifics of the event, and I really can't remember everything.
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I'm not sure...I know that I had trouble getting into 3rd (I think I hit the gate between 1st and 3rd) before getting in gear. When I did get in gear and let off the clutch, that stuff happened. I've hit redline and experienced the cut in power a few times myself, but this seemed more violent. This along with my rpms jumping up as soon as I let off the clutch is what leads me to believe that I shifted into the wrong gear. However, I think the fact that my mph dropped a little before I engaged the gear might have saved me from some real bad damage. Idk...I try to think back to the specifics of the event, and I really can't remember everything.
Well if there is an issue, I am sure warranty covers it all, just dont tell them you were drag racing
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Well if there is an issue, I am sure warranty covers it all, just dont tell them you were drag racing
^THIS! Don't worry about the ching-chong trans, there are so many issues with it that I doubt Ford would be able to pin too much serious heat on you about it.
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Re: Mis-shift damage?

Just beat the hell out of it at the track..but, "don't worry"-take it to the dealer, it's under warranty....

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Re: Mis-shift damage?

What is it with the "ching - chong" tranny? (the kind in a car.... not walking the street) I have had no issues with mine yet.... yet being the key word. Please elaborate what the issues are and what one can do to avert said issues.
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What is it with the "ching - chong" tranny? (the kind in a car.... not walking the street) I have had no issues with mine yet.... yet being the key word. Please elaborate what the issues are and what one can do to avert said issues.
There are multiple issues, including the clutch pedal getting stuck to the floor when you attempt to shift and inability to shift into gear at speed. Mine is mostly OK, but about a third of the time I drive the car it crunches real bad when I shift into fifth. I can usually repeat this (even at a stop with the engine idling) by holding in the clutch and shifting from 4th to 5th. It's done this since the day I got it. Sometimes it also pops out of 1st gear for no apparent reason ... I should probably take it to Ford but I don't feel like taking all my mods off just to put them back on. The issues are well documented and Ford has even released several TSBs.
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What is it with the "ching - chong" tranny? (the kind in a car.... not walking the street) I have had no issues with mine yet.... yet being the key word. Please elaborate what the issues are and what one can do to avert said issues.
Pressure plates back out.

Synchro's going bad.

The sucking to floor with clutch seems to only happen to tuned cars with a rev limiter over 7200.

I had my tranny go out on me. Ford replaced it. Now with new tranny I have had no issues.

To help avoid any issues get a good clutch w/ flywheel $900-1200. Upgrade your pedals to the GT500 set. Its like $100. This will be the biggest start.

Also change the oil to red line or royal purple.
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Also change the oil to red line or royal purple.
I plan to put royal purple in this winter while the car is garaged. I'll let you all know if it fixes my rough/crunchy shifting. If not I'll probably drive it until the thing gives out. The Ford dealerships where I live won't replace or fix anything unless it can be replicated on demand at any time... which my problems cannot.
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