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Old 12-13-2011, 01:37 AM   #1
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Catch Can or Separator

Is there a difference between a oil catch can and a oil separator? If so what is the difference? And benefits of each.
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Re: Catch Can or Separator

The catch can pulls in the oil vapor from your intake to keep the sludge out of it, not sure about an oil separater.
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I believe they are the same thing. Oil separators do the same job as Oil Catch Cans.
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^+ 1 They are the same...Proper name is oil seperator.I call them catch can
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Okay, sites such as AM do call them both, I just wanted to make sure. From my understanding worth the investment. Especially if you are going the NA route?
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^+ 1 They are the same...Proper name is oil seperator.I call them catch can
Yeah, I roll catch can lingo too! Oil separator just sounds too snooty! Lol
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Honestly... I think it is a "gimme yo Moneeeeey" item. Millions of cars have rolled 100's of thousands of miles with out one and done just fine. Does it help? I am sure it does, does it really make a difference?? I dont think so. It looks cool and if it makes you feel better .... get one. JMO
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Honestly... I think it is a "gimme yo Moneeeeey" item. Millions of cars have rolled 100's of thousands of miles with out one and done just fine. Does it help? I am sure it does, does it really make a difference?? I dont think so. It looks cool and if it makes you feel better .... get one. JMO
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Honestly... I think it is a "gimme yo Moneeeeey" item. Millions of cars have rolled 100's of thousands of miles with out one and done just fine. Does it help? I am sure it does, does it really make a difference?? I dont think so. It looks cool and if it makes you feel better .... get one. JMO
That's why I posted the topic. Is it really worth $100, does it really lengthen the life of the engine, is there a real function to it, you can't reuse the oil you just dump it right? If you are losing a lot of oil in it, wouldn't that mean there is a problem with the engine. IDK...
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I retired my Bullitt with 130k miles on it and it still ran like a champ...... never had a catch can, never had an issue and I dove that thing down the autobahn for all she was worth 400 miles a week commuting between work and home. I honestly feel that if it was really a "needed" item for the engine, Ford would have included one on it to begin with. It is not like Ford puts the brakes on your car and does not include the pads if you get what I am trying to say.
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I retired my Bullitt with 130k miles on it and it still ran like a champ...... never had a catch can, never had an issue and I dove that thing down the autobahn for all she was worth 400 miles a week commuting between work and home. I honestly feel that if it was really a "needed" item for the engine, Ford would have included one on it to begin with. It is not like Ford puts the brakes on your car and does not include the pads if you get what I am trying to say.
I do, makes sense. Just wanted to get a feel from everyone. Thanks.
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I retired my Bullitt with 130k miles on it and it still ran like a champ...... never had a catch can, never had an issue and I dove that thing down the autobahn for all she was worth 400 miles a week commuting between work and home. I honestly feel that if it was really a "needed" item for the engine, Ford would have included one on it to begin with. It is not like Ford puts the brakes on your car and does not include the pads if you get what I am trying to say.
From what I read the oil vapors going through ur intake dilutes octane of fuel causing dirty fuel burn leaving more deposits that over time can effect performance. And from first hand experience there is alot of oil vapor flow back! So I would rather be safe than sorry.
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From what I read the oil vapors going through ur intake dilutes octane of fuel causing dirty fuel burn leaving more deposits that over time can effect performance. And from first hand experience there is alot of oil vapor flow back! So I would rather be safe than sorry.
Good to know, and I have read that elsewhere.
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I been running mine whit both sides of the crankcases whit some homemade oil/air seperators and it seens to keep my trouttle cleaner ever since I put them on, I get around 1/2 of oil in the pcv side in two days and get brown stuff like coffe kind of color from the drivers side , conclusion they keep my trouttle and air intake cleaner
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I been running mine whit both sides of the crankcases whit some homemade oil/air seperators and it seens to keep my trouttle cleaner ever since I put them on, I get around 1/2 of oil in the pcv side in two days and get brown stuff like coffe kind of color from the drivers side , conclusion they keep my trouttle and air intake cleaner
Nice...why the difference in each side?
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Re: Catch Can or Separator

So, I was under the impression that if you used a high quality oil and had it changed regularly that engine sludge was something you did not really have to worry about. Is that wrong? I change mine every 5k with Royal Purple and the oil is never burned and for the most part still semi transparent. I thought the catch can was to prevent engine sludge build up????
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Re: Catch Can or Separator

It's not so much about sludge...It's about you putting oil back in the motor pretty much the wrong way and place.Robs you of HP some from mixing with your gas and burning off.Probably make your spark plug last longer too. To me with these cars especially,May be the best money you spend.
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Dammit Jim........

Ok so I tried to build a solid Devils Advocate arguement.... which I lost miserably........ I guess I will order one now...... or should I order 2?
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you ask why two? well I first notice that when I replace my stock air filter it had some oil and that it was coming from the crankcase vapor house driver side sow I put in the oil/air seperator or cach can what ever I dont know how to call it now, then when I replace the intake manifal gasket I also found plenty of oil coming from pcv valve side house going in to the manifal and all inside sow I clean it put it back on and added the secon oil/seperator, these types of engines suck alot of air sow thats why these types of products should be put on to keep them a little cleanner if you whan them to last longer ,
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Are they pretty easy to install?
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Re: Catch Can or Separator

I had a small breather air filter, on the right cylider bank-which came with my MAF/CAI I installed-on my`08 4.6. I have seen this device, and wondered about it's neccessuty/effectiveness, myself. I have not installed one-but probably will-if I continue to keep driving this `11..
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Well from what I'm reading it seems to be worth having it. So I guess it will be a mod at the first of the year.
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Do it....It's nothing cool about it....Just smart. You will not regret and your motor will love you for it.As for easy?? So easy it's a joke.If you order the JLT (recommended) it comes already fixed.All you got to do is raise hood and install in literally a couple minutes.
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Jlt here also. It is worth it indeed. Keeps the oil from blowing in your intake. And with these new coyote engines it seems to be a lot. Some more then others.
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Are they pretty easy to install?
It has the OEM connections so it plug and play may take a whole 2minutes! I have the black JLT but only bought one for the passenger side as that's were most of the flow back is coming from.
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Sounds too easy and I'll be getting mine soon. Thanks everyone!!!
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I just ordered mine and will install in Feb...

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I just had my car smogcheck and found out that cach cans are not california emision legal alse because I remove a heater house that heats up the pcv valve but I dont live in alaska sow thats why I took it off, sow for all you in cali who are planning on putting cach cans hide them before smogtest
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I just had my car smogcheck and found out that cach cans are not california emision legal alse because I remove a heater house that heats up the pcv valve but I dont live in alaska sow thats why I took it off, sow for all you in cali who are planning on putting cach cans hide them before smogtest
On the 2011+??? It's just a hose connection to the IM on the passenger side.
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