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Old 02-13-2012, 11:48 PM   #1
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I've been afraid of pulling the trigger of doing this even though American Muscle has a warranty for the #8 issue... but I wouldn't mind more throttle response and a throatier growl... but I want to hear more input on this setup... I don't care if this setup isn't the most aggressive out there, I just want a "safer" tune that'll make a difference in power
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I've been afraid of pulling the trigger of doing this even though American Muscle has a warranty for the #8 issue... but I wouldn't mind more throttle response and a throatier growl... but I want to hear more input on this setup... I don't care if this setup isn't the most aggressive out there, I just want a "safer" tune that'll make a difference in power
That's what I have and love it.. And I love having the peace of mind in the #8 warranty..
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I'm runnin the 93 steeda tune and its great no complaints at all! As far as I know steeda has yet to have any # 8 failures or problems the tuner Gus has been great about everything I have needed. Either way you go your golden IMO!
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There is a thread here somewhere where there was an issue with #8 and the AM reps came on promptly and verified that they knew if the issue and were prepared to honor the warranty. AM is a site sponsor here and their reps are great and easy to contact.
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It'd be nice if we actually got a follow up on that particular individual. The thread was called Blown up 2011 but it got closed before we could hear back from the op.
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Do some research on other forums and you will find two things. Guys with basic bolt ons like AM/Bama tunes. Yet they don't perform as good as some other tunes out there. Then you will find that there is some guys who hate them and had issues. You will find the drag racers don't like them cause there is power left on the table compared to others. Mainly cause they are pretty safe tunes.
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Do some research on other forums and you will find two things. Guys with basic bolt ons like AM/Bama tunes. Yet they don't perform as good as some other tunes out there. Then you will find that there is some guys who hate them and had issues. You will find the drag racers don't like them cause there is power left on the table compared to others. Mainly cause they are pretty safe tunes.
This is pretty much spot on. I recommend the Bama tunes to people because they are safe and you can get free updates as you add mods. Sure, there are other tunes out there which are far more aggressive, but I think you would be best going to a shop that has Coyote experience and getting a CDT over one of these aggressive mail-order tunes. I've been happy with the service and support that I have received from Bama (I had one of his tunes before he partnered with AM and he was great to work with back then) and American Muscle. They always answer the phone and reply to emails and PMs. I don't think there is better service to be had in the Mustang community.

Regarding the infamous #8 issue, it's really a bunch of FUD IMO. There are very few confirmed cases, and Bama/AM has made it right every time. There are a few cases of people losing #8 on a stock engine, but once again very hard to confirm. There have been engine failures or other major problems with most other tuners too, but you'll have to dig deep to find anything on them since it's been swept under the rug pretty well.
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That's what I have and love it.. And I love having the peace of mind in the #8 warranty..
Where does it state that they give warranty for #8?
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Where does it state that they give warranty for #8?
Let me google that for you

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http://1.cdn.lib.americanmuscle.com/...nty-2011gt.pdf

It's also been discussed about seventy billion times on every single Mustang forum in existence. We don't mind helping you out, but please at least give a smidgeon of effort for find the info you're looking for before asking us to do it for you.
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Let me google that for you

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http://1.cdn.lib.americanmuscle.com/...nty-2011gt.pdf

It's also been discussed about seventy billion times on every single Mustang forum in existence. We don't mind helping you out, but please at least give a smidgeon of effort for find the info you're looking for before asking us to do it for you.
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This is pretty much spot on. I recommend the Bama tunes to people because they are safe and you can get free updates as you add mods. Sure, there are other tunes out there which are far more aggressive, but I think you would be best going to a shop that has Coyote experience and getting a CDT over one of these aggressive mail-order tunes. I've been happy with the service and support that I have received from Bama (I had one of his tunes before he partnered with AM and he was great to work with back then) and American Muscle. They always answer the phone and reply to emails and PMs. I don't think there is better service to be had in the Mustang community.

Regarding the infamous #8 issue, it's really a bunch of FUD IMO. There are very few confirmed cases, and Bama/AM has made it right every time. There are a few cases of people losing #8 on a stock engine, but once again very hard to confirm. There have been engine failures or other major problems with most other tuners too, but you'll have to dig deep to find anything on them since it's been swept under the rug pretty well.
Yea that sounds pretty good, I'm pretty big on warranty as this my first new car/mustang and I don't have deep pockets for a new engine.... plus I got a wicked fast car compared to my ricer friends/acquaintances LOL so I'm not worried about having tunes that make me 0.2 secs faster
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:59 AM   #12
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Just got my steeda cai, and Bama tuner last night.... I have a dumb question, Im gonna go with the 91 performance tune... I already use 93 octane fuel since day 1... is it OK to keep using 93 octane fuel on a 91 performance tune? Vs 91 octane fuel??
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Just got my steeda cai, and Bama tuner last night.... I have a dumb question, Im gonna go with the 91 performance tune... I already use 93 octane fuel since day 1... is it OK to keep using 93 octane fuel on a 91 performance tune? Vs 91 octane fuel??
It will be fine using 93 on a 91 on tune. It will cause it to be slightly rich but will not hurt it at all. Just don't run a anything less then 91.
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The highest we have is 92 up here and that's on base but the car runs better on 92 then 91 but its better to be safe because there is no way to tell for sure if it really is 91 like the pump sticker states it is
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It will be fine using 93 on a 91 on tune. It will cause it to be slightly rich but will not hurt it at all. Just don't run a anything less then 91.
Awesome, thanks I wanna run the 91 tune regularly and run the 93 tune sometimes if I need it... gonna install tonight after I get home from work
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It will be fine using 93 on a 91 on tune. It will cause it to be slightly rich but will not hurt it at all. Just don't run a anything less then 91.
I've never tuned before and new to mustangs altogether.... putting higher octane fuel like 93 on a lower tune like 89 or 91 and its running more rich, does the factory tune on 93 octane run rich as well?
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An 87 tune is going to be tuned slightly fat to hold combustion temps down. Throwing 93 in there isn't necessarily going to make it fatter.

All depends on the tuners choices but, mainly, running higher octane fuel in a lower octane tune wastes money and can result in slightly reduced performance over the prescribed octane level for the tune.

It's really splitting hairs lengthwise, though.
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An 87 tune is going to be tuned slightly fat to hold combustion temps down. Throwing 93 in there isn't necessarily going to make it fatter.

All depends on the tuners choices but, mainly, running higher octane fuel in a lower octane tune wastes money and can result in slightly reduced performance over the prescribed octane level for the tune.

It's really splitting hairs lengthwise, though.
When I burn 93 on my 87 tune performance seems a little better and mileage per gallon goes up.
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Don't **** around......plug in that race tune one time and you will forget about those other tunes real quick.
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Mine surges forward at a stop when in gear. Almost rear ended someone in a drive through, but I can switch tunes on the fly so I do use it sometimes.
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Well I finally got it tuned and took it for a slight run... roads aren't that great at the moment so I couldn't get a good feel of power improvement yet but I felt more tq over 3k rpms.. I'm running the 91 tune for now, but I noticed the miles to empty for the fuel pretty much doubled !! Is that normal?? On almost a full tank it says right now 343 to empty... before, after filling my tank it used to say 202 miles to empty....
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Well I finally got it tuned and took it for a slight run... roads aren't that great at the moment so I couldn't get a good feel of power improvement yet but I felt more tq over 3k rpms.. I'm running the 91 tune for now, but I noticed the miles to empty for the fuel pretty much doubled !! Is that normal?? On almost a full tank it says right now 343 to empty... before, after filling my tank it used to say 202 miles to empty....
It just reset the running average that is used to calculate that. 202 miles on a full tank? That's pretty terrible LOL, you must drive it hard all the time.
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It just reset the running average that is used to calculate that. 202 miles on a full tank? That's pretty terrible LOL, you must drive it hard all the time.
I drive it hard enough yea but I don't abuse all the time, but yea 202 miles at best... as far as the screen tells me, I figured this was normal cuz the tank isn't that big.... but I guess ill test it with time, but I barely have time to drive it LOL... so I guess ill know in about a month
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I drive it hard enough yea but I don't abuse all the time, but yea 202 miles at best... as far as the screen tells me, I figured this was normal cuz the tank isn't that big.... but I guess ill test it with time, but I barely have time to drive it LOL... so I guess ill know in about a month
Its a 16 gallon tank ... that's 12.6MPG.
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Yea that's about right... ur on point there ... guess I have a heavy foot, plus I always drive local.... I hope I do get mpgs after the tune tho... if not, oh well... didn't get a mustang for that...
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Yea that's about right... ur on point there ... guess I have a heavy foot, plus I always drive local.... I hope I do get mpgs after the tune tho... if not, oh well... didn't get a mustang for that...
Lol I know what you mean. I drive mine pretty hard too but average about 20MPG. I think I would have to floor it from each red light to get 12MPG
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When I burn 93 on my 87 tune performance seems a little better and mileage per gallon goes up.
You'd need a pretty well instrumented test to verify this but, it isn't impossible. As I said, it all depends on the tuners choices and what makes 93, 93 in your area. There's many ways to hit that magic # and some are good for performance and some less so.
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