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Old 03-10-2012, 10:29 PM   #1
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4.10 gears from a 2001 mustang to a 2011 gt?

Hi my friend has a set of 4.10 gears from a 2001 gt. question will it fit my 2011 gt? I want to switch to 4.10s regardless i currently have 3.73's and want quicker acceleration and this seems like the ticket + drag radials to help put it down to the floor
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Hi my friend has a set of 4.10 gears from a 2001 gt. question will it fit my 2011 gt? I want to switch to 4.10s regardless i currently have 3.73's and want quicker acceleration and this seems like the ticket + drag radials to help put it down to the floor
Yes they will fit.
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Question I take this is for the track? If so what size DR's? Reason is 4.10s will cause you to go into 5th right before traps. 3.90s will keep you in 4th. It all can change it all...lol
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Question I take this is for the track? If so what size DR's? Reason is 4.10s will cause you to go into 5th right before traps. 3.90s will keep you in 4th. It all can change it all...lol
Yes and no its a dd but ill go to the track once in a while i want to squeeze 285's on the brembo package lol.
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Yes and no its a dd but ill go to the track once in a while i want to squeeze 285's on the brembo package lol.
Tires will fit depending on brand.

Far as gears it really up to you. I had 4.10s in my 2011 manual. With way tranny is geared 1st gear is basically useless.
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So would 4.10s improve 0-60 times?
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Yes they would

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If u can get the tires to hook
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Ok guess im doing it then
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Ok guess im doing it then
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Ok guess im doing it then
I wouldn't.. 1st gear is short enough w 3.73s.. And shifting into 5th will kill ya in the 1320!
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I wouldn't.. 1st gear is short enough w 3.73s.. And shifting into 5th will kill ya in the 1320!
I have 410s with a supercharger and a 5speed and its far from stock 427r. All i have to say is if u know how to drive and can hook up you will tear alot of people a new *** whole lol. So go for it
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I have 410s with a supercharger and a 5speed and its far from stock 427r. All i have to say is if u know how to drive and can hook up you will tear alot of people a new *** whole lol. So go for it
You've also only got 5 gears.. Transmission is geared differently allowing you to actually use 1st.. And if you plan on going w a sc then don't go any lower than 3.73s.. If I had a 5spd then I would prolly also do 4.10s... and would also suggest them to the OP if he had a 5spd...
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Do as u wish i have friends with the new 5.0 and they need the lower gear in my opinion
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Do as u wish i have friends with the new 5.0 and they need the lower gear in my opinion
What gears do they have? They come w anything from a 3.15 to a 3.73 factory
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You've also only got 5 gears.. Transmission is geared differently allowing you to actually use 1st.. And if you plan on going w a sc then don't go any lower than 3.73s.. If I had a 5spd then I would prolly also do 4.10s... and would also suggest them to the OP if he had a 5spd...
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WHy do people try to comment when they have a totally different car? WHy comment if you have no idea what it is like with the 2011+?

A blower on a 2010 prior is what some of us made with bolt ons in 5.0's.

4.10's in the 5.0's is liek having 4.30's in teh 2010 prior basically. I had 4.10's in my manual. And as said it make 1st kinda useless. Even on DR's. DD I would just start off in 2nd gear all the time. At the track you will be shifting to 2nd before you even finish the 60ft basically. Keep the 3.73's or go to a 3.90. If want quicker start then get more power.

If plan on a SC later you will really not want 4.10's. Heck I know guys with 2010 prior that don't want 4.10's cause its a waste. They all run 3.55's or even 3.31's. With mine I will be going to 3.55's.
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The reason all you 5.0 guys make the power u do is bc of your high compression. Thats it hands down look at the new 5.0 motor built for boost on the new 5.0 with lower compression 18 lbs + around 650 plus at tires. Same as u will get out of a 4.6 with same boost friendly compression
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The reason all you 5.0 guys make the power u do is bc of your high compression. Thats it hands down look at the new 5.0 motor built for boost on the new 5.0 with lower compression 18 lbs + around 650 plus at tires. Same as u will get out of a 4.6 with same boost friendly compression
Ur nuts.. I can throw a blower on my car and make 600+whp running minimal boost with only a tune and a couple bolt ons. That's not even goin w diff pulleys..
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Ur nuts.. I can throw a blower on my car and make 600+whp running minimal boost with only a tune and a couple bolt ons. That's not even goin w diff pulleys..
Yes i know this bc of the high compression thats why take your compression down to a boost friendly 9.1 and you will need 16lbs + to get the same power.
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Yes i know this bc of the high compression thats why take your compression down to a boost friendly 9.1 and you will need 16lbs + to get the same power.
So your jealous that you don't have 11:1 compression?? Why have more boost if you don't need it? Lol.. There's a whole lot more diff between our motors other than compression that gives us more power.. 3v vs. 4v... Dohc vs single.. Etc. etc...
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Jealos if u say so man. I could get a new 5.0 if i want one trust me thats besides the point im just explaing why the new motor makes the power it does with a blower.

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For instance my old 03 cobra 4v dual overhead cam at 18lbs made 505 at the tire. Now my 3v making 7lbs is 488 at the tire so that explains a little there.
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Sounds like someone has a case of denial. The new 5.0 is much more than upping compression. Do that on yours and you still can't touch the new 5.0. The motor is a whole new beast. The variable cam timing is another real difference.
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Sounds like someone has a case of denial. The new 5.0 is much more than upping compression. Do that on yours and you still can't touch the new 5.0. The motor is a whole new beast. The variable cam timing is another real difference.
Then why is the new gt500 650 at the crank with 15lbs out of a 5.8. Which probally is around 580+ at the tires. Now yes you can make that with the new 5.0 at 7lbs probally with the right blower. But all i was trying to do is explain the compression is a big factor on why the 5.0 makes the power it does
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Then why is the new gt500 650 at the crank with 15lbs out of a 5.8. Which probally is around 580+ at the tires. Now yes you can make that with the new 5.0 at 7lbs probally with the right blower. But all i was trying to do is explain the compression is a big factor on why the 5.0 makes the power it does
That's kinda common sense that the compression helps.. Along w the dohc, variable cam timing, more displacement(than your 4.6), and many other things.. It's as big of a factor as all the other things mentioned.. I'd rather be running 7psi @11:1 than 18 psi or whatever you had said @9:1... But really it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other..
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That's kinda common sense that the compression helps.. Along w the dohc, variable cam timing, more displacement(than your 4.6), and many other things.. It's as big of a factor as all the other things mentioned.. I'd rather be running 7psi @11:1 than 18 psi or whatever you had said @9:1... But really it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other..
Trust me i had no attentions to sound like a *** i was just trying to explain a lil something. I love the new 5.0s and thought about getting one just decided to go with my roush after i sold my cobra to my uncle.
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Yes i know this bc of the high compression thats why take your compression down to a boost friendly 9.1 and you will need 16lbs + to get the same power.
Are you serious? They are dropping the compression so they don't blow the engine. Even at a 9.5:1 compression a nd 16-18lbs of boost these cars are making over 700whp. Look at several cars that run that much boost. Hell mopst them are making closer to 800whp. Its not the compression. Its the bigger engine, better flowing heads, VVT. Not the compression. WHy it helps once they drop it its all in teh bigger/better engine.
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Are you serious? They are dropping the compression so they don't blow the engine. Even at a 9.5:1 compression a nd 16-18lbs of boost these cars are making over 700whp. Look at several cars that run that much boost. Hell mopst them are making closer to 800whp. Its not the compression. Its the bigger engine, better flowing heads, VVT. Not the compression. WHy it helps once they drop it its all in teh bigger/better engine.
You can also make 700 on a 3v with 18lbs my friend. With the right blower
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Then why is the new gt500 650 at the crank with 15lbs out of a 5.8. Which probally is around 580+ at the tires. Now yes you can make that with the new 5.0 at 7lbs probally with the right blower. But all i was trying to do is explain the compression is a big factor on why the 5.0 makes the power it does
It is a 5.8L with a PD new blower. Froged internals set to handle a lot of boost. Set with a very safe tune. Watch what happens when people get them and do nothing but a tune to them. You will see the new GT500 make 620-630whp with nothing but a tune. As compression plays a role it is a lot more then that.

As far as the 4.6 its limits are aroudn 450whp with a blower on stock internals. While the 5.0 is around 630-650whp. That is a huge difference. And you will not make 580whp with 7lbs on a stock 5.0 with out be on the limits of an unsafe tune.

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You can also make 700 on a 3v with 18lbs my friend. With the right blower
Yep with a turbo. and forged internals and stroking the block. If it was that easy to do with a 4.6 why are that many people not doing it with liitle effort as you make believe? Cause it isn't that simple. Look at JPC/Beefcake/Sean Kelley all make 900whp-100whp on 18lbs-20lbs of boost on a new 5.0. Hell guys are making 650 on 10lbs of boost on stock engines. Let me see you do that with a stock 4.6..Not going to happen at all.
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I was just stating what they are power wise with same compression boost friendly they are pretty close. Mine is at 488 with only 7lbs from a little blower. Once my shortblock goes in and the whipple i will up it to 18 with methanol just how my cobra was.
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Want 800whp in a 4.6 this is what some of the guys builds looks like. A lot harder then a 5.0.

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I was just stating what they are power wise with same compression boost friendly they are pretty close. Mine is at 488 with only 7lbs from a little blower. Once my shortblock goes in and the whipple i will up it to 18 with methanol just how my cobra was.
I am taking you have full exhaust?

I made 620whp with a 10lbs boost and completely stock exhaust. Add off road x pipe and hit 643whp. Still with only 10lbs boost on 93. I will be adding E85 soon and go to 15lbs of boost. From what we figured and others made I will make close to 750whp. Never going to happen on a stock 4.6. And I will not use Methanol. Don't want to be like the nitrous guys and be like oh my bottle(tank) is not filled you have t o wait till i get it filled to race and I am at full tilt.
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I have a 2010 and it took my mechanic alot of work to get my car to get to 600 rwhp it can do alot more but I have it for a dd so yes it's alot easier for a 5.0 to make more power hands down my next car will be a 5.0 or a Shelby cause its easier to make alot more power
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I was just stating what they are power wise with same compression boost friendly they are pretty close. Mine is at 488 with only 7lbs from a little blower. Once my shortblock goes in and the whipple i will up it to 18 with methanol just how my cobra was.
My buddy laid down 543 with 5.6lb on his new 5.0 cause of a BOV being jacked up. That isn't close. Even with lower compression it will be a good difference just because of the bigger engine, better heads. Not to mention if we add exhuast and stuff into it.
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Want 800whp in a 4.6 this is what some of the guys builds looks like. A lot harder then a 5.0.

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05 up Ford alum. 4.6 block
Manley 18cc Dish pistons 9.0/1 .30 with ceramic coated tops and dry film coated skirts
Manley billet pro series rods coated with Poyldyn PD14
Kellogg stroker crank coated with Polydyn PD14
Federal/Mogul Race series bearings Dry film coated
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Comp custom grind cams Lift-490 in. 475 ex.. Dur. 222 in. 231 ex. @.50 with 114 LSA
Comp Beehive springs moly coated with titanium retainers
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MSD cops
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Intake plentum, valve covers, and timing cover all coated with Polydyn matalic silver urathane coating

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GT 500/ V-10 TB
Im not going for 800 im only going for 650 at the tires on my 4.6. And i know what the prochargers can do that is what is on our fox its a f1r making 30lbs and is 1200 at the tires. The pics of it are on my profile as well as my old cobra. New bypass valve was just installed on the f1r to safely have the 30psi. It is also a chevy motor
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I have a 2010 and it took my mechanic alot of work to get my car to get to 600 rwhp it can do alot more but I have it for a dd so yes it's alot easier for a 5.0 to make more power hands down my next car will be a 5.0 or a Shelby cause its easier to make alot more power
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My next car will be a Vette or GTR(maybe a used 2013/2014 GT500). I will keep the 5.0 for track duty though. By that time I will have no issue putting a cage in it and what not.

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Im not going for 800 im only going for 650 at the tires on my 4.6. And i know what the prochargers can do that is what is on our fox its a f1r making 30lbs and is 1200 at the tires. The pics of it are on my profile as well as my old cobra. New bypass valve was just installed on the f1r to safely have the 30psi. It is also a chevy motor
Biggest thing. lots of CU IN. LOL


At track here guy had a LS1 stroker Turbo set up in his fox. Drove it to track ran a bunch of 9.1-9.3@150+ and then drove home

Also y ou said you was at 488 now with a blower. I made 464whp with bolt ons on my manual 5.0 and ran lower 11's. Hadn't even broke engine open yet.

ANYWAY! BAck on topic.



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The fox is also a street car has made 1 pass down the track and cant make another due to regulations needs a cage. Has stock interior
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Yea my car now will be my sons when he gets older I've put alot of money in the engine and suspension drivetrain everything mechanical and if i put the same amount of money in a 5.0 I would have at least 8 to 1000 hp cause of the motor the 5.0 will handle more with less boost
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