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Old 06-03-2012, 12:09 AM   #36
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There was at least one year.. 83? 84? When the GT was a turbo 4..
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I'd take an SVO with the subie turbo boxer They sound amazing
My guess is it will be DOHC.. Who knows though.
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There was at least one year.. 83? 84? When the GT was a turbo 4..
Think it was a few years w/limited production. Like 84 to 86 or there abouts.
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My guess is it will be DOHC.. Who knows though.
The engine will not sound like a Subaru by have a DOCH it needs to be a flat 4 with the unequal length manifolds that are on it :p just having a reg 4 banger and it will sound like a Honda civic
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The engine will not sound like a Subaru by have a DOCH it needs to be a flat 4 with the unequal length manifolds that are on it :p just having a reg 4 banger and it will sound like a Honda civic
Sounds more like a Buick GN
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The engine will not sound like a Subaru by have a DOCH it needs to be a flat 4 with the unequal length manifolds that are on it :p just having a reg 4 banger and it will sound like a Honda civic
I'd be willing to bet it'll be DOHC.. Takes ford years of field testing before straying from their path.. Took several years to get the mod motors in mustangs.. Idk of any other engine types in use right now by ford. Here or abroad. Could be though.
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My guess is it will be DOHC.. Who knows though.
Yeah I'm sure they won't have a boxer but just saying it'd be nice!
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Yeah I'm sure they won't have a boxer but just saying it'd be nice!
Then forget it I'm not going to bother with a new base model if it's the 4 banger I'd rather buy a Subaru sti and have less weight and awd and just chip it ^_~ or tune it
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Then forget it I'm not going to bother with a new base model if it's the 4 banger I'd rather buy a Subaru sti and have less weight and awd and just chip it ^_~ or tune it
Don't forget the bumble bee mufflers!
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:20 AM   #45
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Yup the base mustang is a pony car not a hot hatch or a sports car so there's no reason to have it compete with v dubs and civics and 350z in handling
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Now if they also make the v8 lighter too >_> hhhhmmmmm use the base model as a test subject to get better performance from the v8
They will be the same chassis. Think of a new scion frs/ subaru brz but with a big v8 under the hood. I love lightweight big power. Hell... they could make a 3100lb mustang and really go after the new vette!
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Yup the base mustang is a pony car not a hot hatch or a sports car so there's no reason to have it compete with v dubs and civics and 350z in handling
The new GT won a shoot out for best handling sports car under 40k.. Including the 370z
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Also I've said this before... the base engine (svo I guess so mayb not base) is likely to have an engine similar to the current euro spec focus RS ~ 330hp 265tq
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Also I've said this before... the base engine (svo I guess so mayb not base) is likely to have an engine similar to the current euro spec focus RS ~ 330hp 265tq
That makes me smile but the u showed low torque and I'm sorry but a v6 would have been able to match the torque with the hp maybe we just need a version of the v6 witha SC on it
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That makes me smile but the u showed low torque and I'm sorry but a v6 would have been able to match the torque with the hp maybe we just need a version of the v6 witha SC on it
Its tempting for sure but its a emissions / cost thing. I bet ford would do the 3.7 ecoboost tt at around 390hp/385tq before the supercharger. Everything is going turbo... mileage is so important if companies want to produce sports cars.
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Its tempting for sure but its a emissions / cost thing. I bet ford would do the 3.7 ecoboost tt at around 390hp/385tq before the supercharger. Everything is going turbo... mileage is so important if companies want to produce sports cars.
That's cuase people want their cake and to eat it too but it's just like low fat foods they just have low fat but high sugar lol and 4 bangers may have high hp but can't back it up with the torque a big engine gets
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Yup the base mustang is a pony car not a hot hatch or a sports car so there's no reason to have it compete with v dubs and civics and 350z in handling
That's exactly where the base model needs to compete. That's where it falls price wise, and that would also hopefully boost sales. Many people in our young generation are of the belief that fords are no good and that foreign cars are better. Ford needs to gain their respect again. Why would you NOT want it to handle that well?

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That's cuase people want their cake and to eat it too but it's just like low fat foods they just have low fat but high sugar lol and 4 bangers may have high hp but can't back it up with the torque a big engine gets
sc/tc will fix the low tq. FI can do many things!! granted it is more cost efficient to make big power with big motors, with the EPA stepping in and forcing higher fuel regulations it is becoming necessary to have smaller motors.
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We're all being super speculative. If history serves, Ford has shown time and again it will do what is necessary to be competitive. They used 4 bangers in the IIs in the 70s and then again in the foxes. We will get to see stangs with 4s again if they are to survive. Let's just hope the 50th anniversary model doesn't resemble the late 70s model of ill repute.
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We're all being super speculative. If history serves, Ford has shown time and again it will do what is necessary to be competitive. They used 4 bangers in the IIs in the 70s and then again in the foxes. We will get to see stangs with 4s again if they are to survive. Let's just hope the 50th anniversary model doesn't resemble the late 70s model of ill repute.
Only problem with your argument is II's are considered worst mustangs ever and deserving of that. I don't buy that they need 4's to survive. 300hp V6 is innovative and forward thinking for those looking for some economy.
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Also I've said this before... the base engine (svo I guess so mayb not base) is likely to have an engine similar to the current euro spec focus RS ~ 330hp 265tq
I can't wait! With a turbo upgrade or a good tune it would be doing wheel stands with some nice slicks!
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Would be cool to see. Just hope the next mustang will be a smaller. When I look at my 12 next to a fox or a new edge it's just so big. Couldn't see a 4cylinder in such a big car.
i hope too, if they will make the mustang smaller they need to change some car parts or upgrade them and re-design its whole interior and exterior.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:47 PM   #57
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Why not it's the same as the 300hp v6 that's in yours except it will probably spank the 3Vs and the new 3.7 due to the huge weight loss.
I don't think the torque numbers will be on par to spank the 3.7L. Maybe just barely beat it or run even. Another 15hp and about 200lbs less. I don't think it would be enough to spank it. The 3.7L Eco Boost in the base Mustang would be better!

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Yup the base mustang is a pony car not a hot hatch or a sports car so there's no reason to have it compete with v dubs and civics and 350z in handling
The performance package V6 mustang beat the likes of Subaru WRX STI & WRX, Genesis 3.8 track pack and Mazda R8 around VIR and on the long straights it hit the speed limiter where the WRX STI recorded a 120mph top speed and the Genesis 3.8 did 127mph. If not for the speed limiter it probably would have topped the Mitsubishi EVO and been nipping the heals of the 5.0 GT. So the V6 Mustang with it's live rear axle can out handle some of the best the East has to offer. The V6 is a well balanced car with great weight distribution.
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I don't think the torque numbers will be on par to spank the 3.7L. Maybe just barely beat it or run even. Another 15hp and about 200lbs less. I don't think it would be enough to spank it. The 3.7L Eco Boost in the base Mustang would be better!

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The performance package V6 mustang beat the likes of Subaru WRX STI & WRX, Genesis 3.8 track pack and Mazda R8 around VIR and on the long straights it hit the speed limiter where the WRX STI recorded a 120mph top speed and the Genesis 3.8 did 127mph. If not for the speed limiter it probably would have topped the Mitsubishi EVO and been nipping the heals of the 5.0 GT. So the V6 Mustang with it's live rear axle can out handle some of the best the East has to offer. The V6 is a well balanced car with great weight distribution.
Do u have a link for that? Id like to believe it but I don't see the current v6 beating a sti or an evo around a track. Especially if it hit a speed limiter.
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i dont see them mass producing a 300hp v6 AND a 3XX hp 4 banger~ unless the 4 cyl is just a limited production run special edition type thing~ but who knows. They may be aiming to replace the v6 all together in favor of the 4 cyl turbo option.
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I would not be surprised to see them drop the V6 in favor of an EcoTech 4. That's just the way they seem to be moving. Ford needs to maintain mileage numbers, and our big 5.0 V8s are not helping.
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A 300 hp base i4t. The 3.7 with direct injection possibly and a power bump 360 hp, direct injection 5.0 @ 475 hp. Top teir will keep the 5.8 but with direct injection. Look for 700hp
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A 300 hp base i4t. The 3.7 with direct injection possibly and a power bump 360 hp, direct injection 5.0 @ 475 hp. Top teir will keep the 5.8 but with direct injection. Look for 700hp
That would be pretty freakin cool
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