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Old 04-01-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
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need help with fluid decision

Hey guys, so i know this is a topic everyone already discussed, but i am
changing my transmission fluid this week and I am deciding between the redline or the amsoil...any preference on which is better to go with or are they both pretty much the same thing, is there anything better ?
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Both are quality oils. I run amsoil mtg in my mt82 and it helped a lot. Both will still be a bit rough in the cold though.
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Going with Royal Purple......... since the other 2 are not available at my location...lol
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Going with Royal Purple......... since the other 2 are not available at my location...lol
I ordered AMSOIL online direct from them, I'd be surprised if they don't ship to you.
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I ordered AMSOIL online direct from them, I'd be surprised if they don't ship to you.
It is the whole thing about shipping petrol products through the APO to Germany...... not allowed
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It is the whole thing about shipping petrol products through the APO to Germany...... not allowed
Ahh, that sucks! I didn't know you couldn't ship that kind of stuff through an APO.
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For me, I went with Royal Purple due to availability, and have no complaints. The research I did showed Amsoil to be the best.
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Re: need help with fluid decision

being a new car I think amsoil has a better product engine oil wise but no idea on trans. With the trans you have and the issues it has had with fluid... not sure if the issues they had were the wrong weight or the make up (find that out) and if that checks out either will do you good.
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I just changed engine oil. Used amsoil in it. My tranny is different then manuals though.
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I just changed engine oil. Used amsoil in it. My tranny is different then manuals though.
You mean, it shifts properly even when it's cold outside?
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You mean, it shifts properly even when it's cold outside?
Actually yes.. LOL.

Can always trade for an auto...
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Actually yes.. LOL.

Can always trade for an auto...
LOL, I could, but I like driving a manual too much. The AMSOIL has helped, everything is (relatively) smooth other than the first couple shifts on a cold morning.
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Does changing the fluid void the warranty?
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Does changing the fluid void the warranty?
No long as you use a fluid that meets or exceeded original fluid.
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I haven't come around to changing my fluid yet... I have 5500 mi how is the access for the fill plug on the manual??
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The drain plug is sweet, passenger side rear of trans. The fill plug is right above it, but is very tight. Close to the tunnel. ....and right above that is the skip-shift solinoid connector that you should disconnect while you are there....highly recommended!!
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The drain plug is sweet, passenger side rear of trans. The fill plug is right above it, but is very tight. Close to the tunnel. ....and right above that is the skip-shift solinoid connector that you should disconnect while you are there....highly recommended!!
Yea thank God the tune took care of the skip shift but just wondering what's an easy way to fill the trans when its drained
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Yea thank God the tune took care of the skip shift but just wondering what's an easy way to fill the trans when its drained
I pulled the center console off and used tubing/a funnel.
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Re: need help with fluid decision

I mean its just my 2nd gear that shifts ruff and sometimes going into 3rd from 2nd...i think im just going to go with the amsoil for now and later do the barton short throw shifter and bracket...thanks guys for all the input
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For me, the fluid did smooth shifting out a bit, but I still experience the roughness shifting into second and third. Ford's been using this transmission for a while, so I don't feel it is the problem. Instead, I think the real issue is the clutch. That's what I am going to change next.
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For me, the fluid did smooth shifting out a bit, but I still experience the roughness shifting into second and third. Ford's been using this transmission for a while, so I don't feel it is the problem. Instead, I think the real issue is the clutch. That's what I am going to change next.
What Ford cars had the Getrag MT82 before the 2011 Mustang?
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I will have to read the article again, but I believe it was the Range Rover.

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http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/gearboxes.htm

May be wrong here, I overlooked that the MT 82 was manufactured by GFT; not sure if they are different than Gettag. If it is the same transmission, it was introduced into the Range Rover vehicles in 2007.
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What Ford cars had the Getrag MT82 before the 2011 Mustang?
Not sure on Ford but Mercedes BMW, Porsche and others use/used it.
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I will have to read the article again, but I believe it was the Range Rover.

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Land Rover gearbox history

May be wrong here, I overlooked that the MT 82 was manufactured by GFT; not sure if they are different than Gettag. If it is the same transmission, it was introduced into the Range Rover vehicles in 2007.
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It is important to note that the current generation Mustang utilizes the MT82 transmission, which is made by Getrag in China. Besides seeing duty in the Ford Mustang, the MT82 is also used in the Land Rover Defender with owners of those vehicle reporting similar problems. To date, no injuries or accidents have been reported to the NHTSA, but a few close calls have occured due to the problem.
NHTSA Opens Investigation Into Ford Mustang Transmission Issues | Autosavant

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The MT82 transmission in question is built by Ford and supplier Getrag at a joint venture in Nanchang, China — a point that has only added to the ire of some customers. And it's not the first time owners of that transmission have reported trouble shifting; the same problems were reported by owners of Land Rover Defenders.
Mt82 News, Videos, Reviews and Gossip - Jalopnik

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So my point is two-fold.

1. The MT82 is not perfect and has had issues outside of the Mustang.
2. Ford does not have prior experience with this trans, this is different than other manufacturers using it, regardless of it's track record.

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So I have to correct myself slightly, Ford does have prior experience with the MT82 ... in the Transit Van.

Ford Transit Forum • View topic - MT - 82 six speed gearbox
Big Dramas with Mustang MT82 Manual Gearboxes from China
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