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04-20-2012, 10:37 PM
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Ahhh the all time dilemma. Our first Stang was a manual and I absolutely loved it! But with all the traffic in SoCal my left quad would cramp up commuting. So for our new Stang (a '13 GT/CS convertible) we opted for the auto since we'll be doing waaay more cruising.
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04-20-2012, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LAS97GT
I have busted 2 & 3 series turbo BMW's in GE with a neon because they have to wait for the shift change. A rev happy Stang w/out rev lim set should pace you and then beat an auto waiting for PCM controlled shift. Stick can run all the way to the red line in all gears. So, if you learn to shift...hmmm. Nough said. Albeit this is about non-modified.
| Auto's have posted just as good times as manuals both bone stock. And on average the autos run faster stock actually. And then modded the autos are running away from the manuals. Fastest manual NA went 10.88@125 with -1000 DA. Buddies auto just went 11.00@124 with +1600 DA. Corrected for DA it is 10.82@126. Same manual went 11.17@123 with same DA.
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I can't believe wnt2gofst didn't ha e something to say about this lol..
| Bring the manuals to the track and watch me and my buddies rape them mod for mod. Even manuals with more mods run slower..
Me 10.91@129...buddy with same setup as me. Only difference is he is a manual ran 11.8@123..and that is only difference. Same blower/boost/rims-tires, exhaust. He now wants an auto. When trans gets tuned he will be way behind.
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Originally Posted by fresh2death Manual. If you get an auto youre gonna end up wanting a manual sooner or later | Funny I know 5 guys that traded their 2011+ manual for an auto. None went auto to manual.
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I don't think a GTR is a joke..
| Just watched one go 11.1@1#7 bone stock. Ferrari 599 went 12.3@110.
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04-20-2012, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wnt2gofst
Auto's have posted just as good times as manuals both bone stock. And on average the autos run faster stock actually. And then modded the autos are running away from the manuals. Fastest manual NA went 10.88@125 with -1000 DA. Buddies auto just went 11.00@124 with +1600 DA. Corrected for DA it is 10.82@126. Same manual went 11.17@123 with same DA.
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Bring the manuals to the track and watch me and my buddies rape them mod for mod. Even manuals with more mods run slower..
Me 10.91@129...buddy with same setup as me. Only difference is he is a manual ran 11.8@123..and that is only difference. Same blower/boost/rims-tires, exhaust. He now wants an auto. When trans gets tuned he will be way behind. | That's what I was referring to lol.. Sounds like he's having some issues too runnin that w a blower and drs.. My buddy ran a 12.6 bone stock factory Pirelli all seasons 6MT... Actually he cut out the h-pipe and put on some 40 series flowmasters(not axlebacks).. Id cry if I ran 11.8 w a blower and drs...
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04-20-2012, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 11stangGT
That's what I was referring to lol.. Sounds like he's having some issues too runnin that w a blower and drs.. My buddy ran a 12.6 bone stock factory Pirelli all seasons 6MT... Actually he cut out the h-pipe and put on some 40 series flowmasters(not axlebacks).. Id cry if I ran 11.8 w a blower and drs...
| Yep..same track same day one after each other.
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04-20-2012, 11:05 PM
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Idc what times an auto runs I think manuals are funner
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04-20-2012, 11:10 PM
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The majority of folks drive their cars on the street, not the strip. It is a sports car. Look at sports car lineage and you will see a common thread of being manual shift.... For the simple fact that you will always be in the perfect RPM whenever needs be. On the highway at 65, I've dropped from 6th down to 3rd and barked the rears and dusted a Porsche 911 turbo, and a Camaro SS. Scalded ape man..... Try it once and see how the adrenalin shakes make you feel.
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04-20-2012, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JasnTX The majority of folks drive their cars on the street, not the strip. It is a sports car. Look at sports car lineage and you will see a common thread of being manual shift.... For the simple fact that you will always be in the perfect RPM whenever needs be. On the highway at 65, I've dropped from 6th down to 3rd and barked the rears and dusted a Porsche 911 turbo, and a Camaro SS. Scalded ape man..... Try it once and see how the adrenalin shakes make you feel. | But it's also a modern muscle car.. And some of the baddest old muscle cars were autos.. I've had both and really don't have anything against either.. It's 1000% all what you wanna do w the car.. If you have a lot of stop and to then a manual can suck ass but it's more fun to play in better for road course.. Auto better in traffic and faster on the drag strip.. All depends on where ya wanna go with it..
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04-21-2012, 05:34 AM
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I have a manual....the only way I sell it and get auto is unability to push the clutch in like it should be. Now, i have had 2 back surgeries since 1996 and last one in 2000....the nerves in my back were injured and has cause my left leg to be a lot weaker over the last 10-12 yrs...so a auto is in my future because of that. Sooner than later.
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04-21-2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dailey I have a manual....the only way I sell it and get auto is unability to push the clutch in like it should be. Now, i have had 2 back surgeries since 1996 and last one in 2000....the nerves in my back were injured and has cause my left leg to be a lot weaker over the last 10-12 yrs...so a auto is in my future because of that. Sooner than later. | I have nerve issues in my left leg.. After I'm in the car a while in city traffic it gets pretty rough..
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04-21-2012, 09:07 AM
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My stang isn't a DD and I love my manual... but I'm glad my DD is an auto cuz being stuck in traffic SUCKS!!!
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04-21-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JasnTX The majority of folks drive their cars on the street, not the strip. It is a sports car. Look at sports car lineage and you will see a common thread of being manual shift.... For the simple fact that you will always be in the perfect RPM whenever needs be. On the highway at 65, I've dropped from 6th down to 3rd and barked the rears and dusted a Porsche 911 turbo, and a Camaro SS. Scalded ape man..... Try it once and see how the adrenalin shakes make you feel. | You realize you can do that with an auto right..and hold the gear and everything.
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04-21-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wnt2gofst Funny I know 5 guys that traded their 2011+ manual for an auto. None went auto to manual. | Well you and your buddies have different uses for your cars then some of us. We arent building a track car like you are or maybe even your friends. I personally dont have anything against autos. I have both an auto and a manual mustang and i personally like my manual better but thats just me. But if i ever build a car just for the track then yes ill go with an auto
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04-21-2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fresh2death  Well you and your buddies have different uses for your cars then some of us. We arent building a track car like you are or maybe even your friends. I personally dont have anything against autos. I have both an auto and a manual mustang and i personally like my manual better but thats just me. But if i ever build a car just for the track then yes ill go with an auto | We all drive our cars every day. And mine bust the manuals ass on the street just like the strip. There is sevral 03-04 Cobra's, Modded Vettes and Camaro's to ask. I have lost once to a GT500 that was making about 60-70whp more then me.
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04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wnt2gofst
We all drive our cars every day. And mine bust the manuals ass on the street just like the strip. There is sevral 03-04 Cobra's, Modded Vettes and Camaro's to ask. I have lost once to a GT500 that was making about 60-70whp more then me.
| Well said! Auto FTW
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Well said! Auto FTW
| There is a reason why real race cars on the strip are auto! No room for playing games on the strip
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04-21-2012, 01:54 PM
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Manual all the way.
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04-21-2012, 07:54 PM
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We are enthusiast we really enjoy driving our cars some preferred auto and for the pure pleasure of driving we opt manual and you have more drivetrain loss in an auto
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04-21-2012, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MikesChargedGT We are enthusiast we really enjoy driving our cars some preferred auto and for the pure pleasure of driving we opt manual and you have more drivetrain loss in an auto | Like 2-3%...
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04-21-2012, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 11stangGT Like 2-3%... | Yup, it's so negligible anymore that's not even much of a factor. They're becoming far more efficient and great for quick shifting. Won't be long before mustangs have DCT's and shift in milliseconds.
Love my manual though and wouldn't give it up for the best auto in the world
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04-22-2012, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
Yup, it's so negligible anymore that's not even much of a factor. They're becoming far more efficient and great for quick shifting. Won't be long before mustangs have DCT's and shift in milliseconds.
Love my manual though and wouldn't give it up for the best auto in the world
| That's how I feel, idc how much slower a manual is dropping third gear on the highway and breaking the tires loose before taking of like a rocket is such an adrenaline rush lol
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04-22-2012, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wnt2gofst Depends on what want to do with it..want to drag race go auto..want to do auto x get the manual. | This
And my version of auto x is daily driving 
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Originally Posted by MikesChargedGT Idc what times an auto runs I think manuals are funner | How can you say "funner" twice and expect anyone to take you seriously?
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04-22-2012, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stangaroo
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And my version of auto x is daily driving
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How can you say "funner" twice and expect anyone to take you seriously? | Lol damn I just caught that 10 hours of work does that to you. I stop paying attention about half way through
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04-22-2012, 06:16 AM
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I say manual all the way. I love in Chicago and I had no clue how to drive manual when I bought my GT. Now that I've upgraded and have a GT500 and installed a short throw shifter I'm in love. Driving stick is so much fun and I would never buy another automatic. Maybe I'm still new to the whole being stuck in traffic but it doesn't bother me.
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04-22-2012, 07:32 AM
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Manuals are way more fun to drive around town (except in heavy traffic), but the new automatic transmissions are superior to manuals in every single way. That is why all the big boy sports cars are coming with paddle-shifted automatics.
Those of you saying that you can't hold gears or that there is a lot more drivetrain loss need to get with the program. It's not the 70s anymore and these things have been overcome by modern engineering and advanced electronic controls.
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04-22-2012, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Napoleon85 Manuals are way more fun to drive around town (except in heavy traffic), but the new automatic transmissions are superior to manuals in every single way. That is why all the big boy sports cars are coming with paddle-shifted automatics.
Those of you saying that you can't hold gears or that there is a lot more drivetrain loss need to get with the program. It's not the 70s anymore and these things have been overcome by modern engineering and advanced electronic controls. | Amen!
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04-22-2012, 03:09 PM
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If your gonna get a auto you might as well get a sixer, just my opinion
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04-22-2012, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylanbest If your gonna get a auto you might as well get a sixer, just my opinion | That's an interesting opinion ... exactly what has lead you to this conclusion?
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04-22-2012, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylanbest If your gonna get a auto you might as well get a sixer, just my opinion | ?????
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04-22-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 11stangGT
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That's an interesting opinion ... exactly what has lead you to this conclusion?
| Look at saleenv8's comment lol That sums it up
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04-22-2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylanbest
Can you not read?
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Look at saleenv8's comment lol That sums it up
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04-22-2012, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 11stangGT
Do you know anything about cars?.. Don't answer that it's rhetorical...
| Air fuel ignition lmao
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04-22-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylanbest
Air fuel ignition lmao
| Ever heard transmission? I guess all pro drag racers use autos cuz their slower.. Makes since.. And generally muscle cars are associated w drag racing not road course racing.. Which is where the manual does best..
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04-22-2012, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 11stangGT
Ever heard transmission? I guess all pro drag racers use autos cuz their slower.. Makes since.. And generally muscle cars are associated w drag racing not road course racing.. Which is where the manual does best..
| Your just pulling strings tryin to sound like a big shot lol I never said which was faster or slower and don't care to argue on that subject either. Your question was far from rhetorical you could never grasp my knowledge on cars based on anything I just said and the only "point" you proved is you'll argue just for the sake of arguing and not the subject matter
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Originally Posted by Dylanbest Your just pulling strings tryin to sound like a big shot lol I never said which was faster or slower and don't care to argue on that subject either. Your question was far from rhetorical you could never grasp my knowledge on cars based on anything I just said and the only "point" you proved is you'll argue just for the sake of arguing and not the subject matter | It was rhetorical bc you don't know anything and I already knew that.. Lol And I'm on subject.. Manual vs auto..
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04-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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