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Old 05-24-2012, 11:43 AM   #141
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Re: STICK OR AUTO??

[QUOTE=wnt2gofst;1123392]Auto's have posted just as good times as manuals both bone stock. And on average the autos run faster stock actually. And then modded the autos are running away from the manuals. Fastest manual NA went 10.88@125 with -1000 DA. Buddies auto just went 11.00@124 with +1600 DA. Corrected for DA it is 10.82@126. Same manual went 11.17@123 with same DA.

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Bring the manuals to the track and watch me and my buddies rape them mod for mod. Even manuals with more mods run slower..

I like my manual, I like having more control of the revs and I like manually shifting the gears. One thing I really enjoy is hard down shifts and hitting the twisties! It's not impressive to me that I can add the exact same mods as everyone else with an automatic 5.0 and run the exact same times at the strip!! I will say drag racing at the strip or street for that matter, is the only time I'd like to have an automatic. But that's only 3-4 minutes a week at most. My answer to the OP's question then (lol) is go test drive them both, really test drive put at least 30-45 min in the seat of both. If you can see of you can keep each one over night. Manual or auto they're b@da$$ cars you'll love it!!!
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:09 PM   #142
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An auto will be faster. And with today's auto is just as much fun on the street. Many have actually thought I had a manual on the street.

The GT500 only comes in manual and is one thing that has turned a lot of people off. Also one thing that hurts its over all performance at the drag strip. But it isn't just a track car. It was actually built for road racing and drag strip. And a manual is way better at a road course. Hence why zl1 comes in both auto and manual. If you go on some the bigger forums you will find guys that have made their GT500 an auto since they drag race or they have the tranny faceplanted.

CJ is a purpose built drag car as mentioned. Hence why it comes with a big stall.
Like i said the drag race police will be here soon. Lol give it up buddy, nobody cares that all you care about is drag racing your car. It was informative the first time but now it's just annoying. People buy the manual because they like shifting and it's more fun period. Auto cars are boring plain and simple. Every drag racing a manual is more fun and takes more skill? I don't care if an auto is easier and faster and more consistent. And sorry but today's auto is just as boring as any of the past.
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I'm currently teaching my wife how to drive my manual....should have gone with auto .

I don't know how many miles have been robbed from my poor car's life since we started 2 days ago, but every time she kills the engine or slips the clutch too much, a tear comes to my eye.

I kid....I'm determined to teach her! Such a fun car to drive.
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Sticks and Autos both have pros and cons!.. Get what you like for whatever your reason is and Don't Bash the other side for doing the same!..
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Like i said the drag race police will be here soon. Lol give it up buddy, nobody cares that all you care about is drag racing your car. It was informative the first time but now it's just annoying. People buy the manual because they like shifting and it's more fun period. Auto cars are boring plain and simple. Every drag racing a manual is more fun and takes more skill? I don't care if an auto is easier and faster and more consistent. And sorry but today's auto is just as boring as any of the past.
I had a manual..maybe you missed that..bolt on 5.0..one of the fastest in the country. It was when I got serious I went to auto. Sorry your so but hurt. The manuals also don't handle the power that autos do.

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Sticks and Autos both have pros and cons!.. Get what you like for whatever your reason is and Don't Bash the other side for doing the same!..
Agree. They both have pros and cons. If you plan on road racing go manual. If going to drag race go auto.
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I had a manual..maybe you missed that..bolt on 5.0..one of the fastest in the country. It was when I got serious I went to auto. Sorry your so but hurt. The manuals also don't handle the power that autos do.

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Agree. They both have pros and cons. If you plan on road racing go manual. If going to drag race go auto.
Wow!.. You agreed with me on some thing else!!!.... That's twice that has happened!!... Is the world comming to an end now??..... Lol
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I had a manual..maybe you missed that..bolt on 5.0..one of the fastest in the country. It was when I got serious I went to auto. Sorry your so but hurt. The manuals also don't handle the power that autos do.

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Agree. They both have pros and cons. If you plan on road racing go manual. If going to drag race go auto.
Here you go again. Do you think that a mustang is a race car? Like it has to either road "race" or drag "race". Hate to tell you but to 90% or the population it's either do you want to shift your gears or not. You seem to forget that this isn't a track racing forum. You can make any car a "race" car. And the op is wondering if he wants to shift his gears or not, not which is faster in a drag race.
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Here you go again. Do you think that a mustang is a race car? Like it has to either road "race" or drag "race". Hate to tell you but to 90% or the population it's either do you want to shift your gears or not. You seem to forget that this isn't a track racing forum. You can make any car a "race" car. And the op is wondering if he wants to shift his gears or not, not which is faster in a drag race.
Did you see idiot I mention road racing?

Most people buy a mustang cause they want a sports car. They want to.go fast. Maybe you want to look like queen and claim ****** dyno numbers. But the real mean want real performance out the car. Plain and simple. And since I have owned both I think I know more then you. And both being new 5.0's. Both highly modded with bolt ons and blower. Manual.at end made 697whp.

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Wow!.. You agreed with me on some thing else!!!.... That's twice that has happened!!... Is the world comming to an end now??..... Lol
Maybe....lol
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Wnt2gofst has actually bought/lived/experienced in both auto and manual what most of us are just googling so wether you like him or not he knows what he's talkin about

Just throwing that out there
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:41 AM   #150
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Wnt2gofst has actually bought/lived/experienced in both auto and manual what most of us are just googling so wether you like him or not he knows what he's talkin about

Just throwing that out there
Oh well, good for him. The op wants to know Which manual trans he should get for his commutes in the city.... Not which is faster and more consistent on a 1/4 mile track! Which is all he talks about.is the op asking for drag racing advise? No! I have no doubt In my mind he knows a lot about drag racing! In fact if I have questions about it or anyone else does I will send them his way! But until that happens we don't need his drag advise. It is also the op's first car and he's in school so giving him drag racing advise is both useless and not smart.
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not smart.
I agree
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Ok, you two, just both stand side by side: drop trousers, see who's closest to the knees, the closest wins.lol
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Whoever wins gets a contract as a porn star. These threads are nightmarish due to the fact that it is an opinion. I love my blown manual with a short throw Mgw shifter. I get to drive it for four hours this weekend to a mustang car show. Getting on the dyno today to verify my tune.
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Stick. I get caught in traffic a lot and it isn't that bad, plus they're wicked fun to drive
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Whoever wins gets a contract as a porn star. These threads are nightmarish due to the fact that it is an opinion. I love my blown manual with a short throw Mgw shifter. I get to drive it for four hours this weekend to a mustang car show. Getting on the dyno today to verify my tune.
Will be looking forward to numbers. What are all your mods again?
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Unless you're missing an essential limb to shift your car an automatic 5.0 is lame
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Will be looking forward to numbers. What are all your mods again?
I jinxed myself, shop had to reschedule, something about a Porsche giving them a hard time on the tune. Under the hood I have a 2.3l whipple generating 9 psi JLT 123 mm air ind. kit, gt500 stock throttle body (120mm), aluminum drive shaft(should cut down on fly wheel to rw loss) and bbk LT catted x pipe. All other mods r show only


This kit specifically http://www.evoperform.com/shop/index...oducts_id=1078
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I bet you make around 600whp/540wtq. Really depends on how aggressive they went with the tune.
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I bet you make around 600whp/540wtq. Really depends on how aggressive they went with the tune.
Yeah I have been emailing John and he told me this tune allows the ecu to adjust for 91-93 octane. The tune actually lets the ecu adjust for the combo of octane and barometric pressure it's seeing. Which is unlike what I am used to seeing which has always been octane specific. I live in wa so highest octane level is 92.
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Yeah I have been emailing John and he told me this tune allows the ecu to adjust for 91-93 octane. The tune actually lets the ecu adjust for the combo of octane and barometric pressure it's seeing. Which is unlike what I am used to seeing which has always been octane specific. I live in wa so highest octane level is 92.
Ya the new computers will do that. They told me if I wnated I could throw race gas in my car and it would adjust timing +/- 3 degrees to account for the octane of the fuel. I always run 93 octane.
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Ya the new computers will do that. They told me if I wnated I could throw race gas in my car and it would adjust timing +/- 3 degrees to account for the octane of the fuel. I always run 93 octane.
Wish I could run 93. Damn west coast hippys. My only problem is within the first thirty minutes of starting it disengaging the clutch and rolling to a stop it will die once like for that one time it is unable to recover into an idle position. No ecl, starts right back up running normal. All vacuum lines are secured etc.
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Wish I could run 93. Damn west coast hippys. My only problem is within the first thirty minutes of starting it disengaging the clutch and rolling to a stop it will die once like for that one time it is unable to recover into an idle position. No ecl, starts right back up running normal. All vacuum lines are secured etc.
I had same issue with a previous tune.
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I had same issue with a previous tune.
Is that something John can correct from ok or is that something the shop will correct on the dyno when they finally get it on there
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Is that something John can correct from ok or is that something the shop will correct on the dyno when they finally get it on there
John should be able to correct it in the tune. Are you having it dyno tuned or just seeing what power is.
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John should be able to correct it in the tune. Are you having it dyno tuned or just seeing what power is.
I am doing base runs for 150 n then I am going to work them if they show me that there is hidden potential I will have them fine tune it. If they can't I will send the data logs to John n have him fine tune it. I am a little on the fence with this shop, but they are known to be the best west of seattle
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I am doing base runs for 150 n then I am going to work them if they show me that there is hidden potential I will have them fine tune it. If they can't I will send the data logs to John n have him fine tune it. I am a little on the fence with this shop, but they are known to be the best west of seattle
Ahh ok. Ya I am sure they can tweak and gain some for sure.
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Ahh ok. Ya I am sure they can tweak and gain some for sure.
Yeah that's what I am hoping. How much boost r u pushing with ur blower now days?
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Yeah that's what I am hoping. How much boost r u pushing with ur blower now days?
Still just 10lbs. Wanted to turn up but I need new injectors and return style fuel system. Then put it on E85
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Still just 10lbs. Wanted to turn up but I need new injectors and return style fuel system. Then put it on E85
Yeah bbr jackal system and 60 lb injectors would set you back a couple grand. E85 is netting some impressive horsepower numbers.
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Yeah bbr jackal system and 60 lb injectors would set you back a couple grand. E85 is netting some impressive horsepower numbers.
I already have 75lb injectors. Lind said I need to go to least 105 with plans. And if want to turn way up.with built engine 200's.
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That's crazy. That would be tipping the gas tank upside down over your engine
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That's crazy. That would be tipping the gas tank upside down over your engine
LOL...Terry Reeves still gets about 23mpg at 1000whp .
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Jeeezus 200lb injectors?!!!...whataya runnin diesel injectors?!...lol
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