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Old 04-28-2012, 11:02 PM   #1
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So, what I have right now is a 2011 5.0. It has a Borla exhaust, custom cold air intake, performance tuned, brembo brakes, short throw shifter, and I dunno if it makes a difference but front and back strut braces. It has 469 engine horsepower and 401 to the wheel. I wanted to know if there was anything else I could do besides a supercharger or a turbo. But if that's all I can do, which one would be better?
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boss intake longtube headers offroad x.
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Offroad X? Is that an X pipe?
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Offroad X? Is that an X pipe?
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Yes, definitely offroad x and long tubes. And then retune! You'll be drunk with power as far as an n/a is concerned.

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Oh, oh, oh! And, and you'll want a better clutch and a aluminum driveshaft.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:43 PM   #6
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So, my Borla exhaust would essentially turn into glorified mufflers lol? Oh and the CAI is a Steeda custom performance air intake. Which I think is one of the better ones to get for the boss intake manifold.
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There so much you can do to add power and yet also make it feel more power. LT's/Boss/off road x pipe, lighter front and rear brakes, driveshaft, different bumper supports, lighter wheels, lighter seats, new clutch, Suspension.
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So, my Borla exhaust would essentially turn into glorified mufflers lol? Oh and the CAI is a Steeda custom performance air intake. Which I think is one of the better ones to get for the boss intake manifold.
So you've got the full Borla exhaust or just the cat backs? If you've got the full exhaust I'd just go with longtubes.
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Yeah, it's the full thing. I looked up the long tube headers and the boss intake manifold. I think that's going to be my next install. Thanks for the info!
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Freakin sweet. You've got the same setup that I want! Did you get the Steeda front strut tower brace? You've gotta have the V6 brace bar to clear the hight of the Boss manifold.

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Sweet! Nope, I just have the Steeda rear brace and the stock GT front brace. I read that I would have to get a new front brace, glad to know Steeda already has one. Kinda silly that the GT one won't fit. Also, will I have to get a higher clear hood with the new manifold and brace?
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Sweet! Nope, I just have the Steeda rear brace and the stock GT front brace. I read that I would have to get a new front brace, glad to know Steeda already has one. Kinda silly that the GT one won't fit. Also, will I have to get a higher clear hood with the new manifold and brace?
No.. I think the boss tower brace looks better personally..
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Here is the boss intake with the boss/gt 500 strut tower brace. It's the same for both cars.
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Here is the boss intake with the boss/gt 500 strut tower brace. It's the same for both cars.
So much better.. The tubular ones just look weak.. I'm sure they aren't but I just like the solid one better
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That thing is also $180 or so and is way heavier than the tubular ones.
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I don't know that it's that heavy at all. It may be 10 lbs?. Certainly not much to change vehicle performance. I would rather have a stiffer cross brace than one that may shave a couple pounds.

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Cost was comparable to aftermarket as well. Got mine thru american muscle
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I don't know that it's that heavy at all. It may be 10 lbs?. Certainly not much to change vehicle performance. I would rather have a stiffer cross brace than one that may shave a couple pounds.

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Cost was comparable to aftermarket as well. Got mine thru american muscle
Steeda has presence on other forums. I worked with them and was going to get a much better price than the oem one, but it's in hold now until my car comes back from the body shop since it was wrecked
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:28 PM   #18
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Well, I think i'll be going with the boss intake and Steeda brace cause I have multiple discounts there. Also, my friend was arguing that his automatic challenger r/t is faster than my car because "it's 2012 and cars should shift themselves and I don't have to worry and just press the gas." What do you all think?
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Well, I think i'll be going with the boss intake and Steeda brace cause I have multiple discounts there. Also, my friend was arguing that his automatic challenger r/t is faster than my car because "it's 2012 and cars should shift themselves and I don't have to worry and just press the gas." What do you all think?
I think this friend doesn't know what he's talking about. Those r/ts are slow compared to our 5.0's. Unless you are just a godawful driver lol.
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Lol I hope I am not. I guess we will see at the dragstrip next week.
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I think this friend doesn't know what he's talking about. Those r/ts are slow compared to our 5.0's. Unless you are just a godawful driver lol.
I was working on 12 r/t Challenger recently... they're just cruisers, they're slow, even a 4.6 is fast compared to those
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Yeah, I want to race him but we live in WA where there is more woods than there are roads
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That thing is also $180 or so and is way heavier than the tubular ones.
Ya Steeda's all about weight reduction..
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Well, I think i'll be going with the boss intake and Steeda brace cause I have multiple discounts there. Also, my friend was arguing that his automatic challenger r/t is faster than my car because "it's 2012 and cars should shift themselves and I don't have to worry and just press the gas." What do you all think?
I've ran a '12 R/T Challenger Auto. We were both stock. He could not keep up. You're going to rip him a new one. Just be sure you do it twice so his corn hole tightens every time he sees your car. Lol
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Had a 2011 gt/cs and whipped the crap out of an r/t- my buddy always got made and eventually gave up- stock for stock u will destroy it
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I was working on 12 r/t Challenger recently... they're just cruisers, they're slow, even a 4.6 is fast compared to those
I just watched one run 13.3 bone stock at the track..show me a stock 4.6 do that.
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I just watched one run 13.3 bone stock at the track..show me a stock 4.6 do that.
A newer 3v will run mid 13s
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A newer 3v will run mid 13s
Where? Haven't seen one do it stock yet.
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I just watched one run 13.3 bone stock at the track..show me a stock 4.6 do that.
What would a 4.6 stock do on average?
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Long Tube headers !! What gear are you running. No HP gain there, but performance not #'s is the goal right ?? If I were you I would not bother w/ Boss 302 intake. W/O all the specs on the engine changed to the Boss motor, performance gains are very minimal !! Good Luck


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What would a 4.6 stock do on average?
Average for the 2005-2010 is 13.8-14.2.
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Where? Haven't seen one do it stock yet.
I ran a 14 flat in my 04 GT auto 2v.. The 3v was faster

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And that was with a k&n drop in and that's all.. I'm considering a mid 13 13.3-13.7.. I know that I read a few places when they came out that they were runnin around a 13.5.. I remember bc I was jealous cuz I couldn't hit 13s in my car
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I ran a 14 flat in my 04 GT auto 2v.. The 3v was faster

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And that was with a k&n drop in and that's all.. I'm considering a mid 13 13.3-13.7.. I know that I read a few places when they came out that they were runnin around a 13.5.. I remember bc I was jealous cuz I couldn't hit 13s in my car
Reviews from every where had them at like 13.8 best. Even some in the 13.9 range. And looking aroudn at what real drivers have done best I could fine bone stock was 13.5. And the 5.0 with 100 more HP have been known to go only 13.3 stock. With some super negative DA I can see a 13.4 or so out a stock 05-10. But thats it.
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Reviews from every where had them at like 13.8 best. Even some in the 13.9 range. And looking aroudn at what real drivers have done best I could fine bone stock was 13.5. And the 5.0 with 100 more HP have been known to go only 13.3 stock. With some super negative DA I can see a 13.4 or so out a stock 05-10. But thats it.
As I said mid 13s.. I only ran 13.05 in my 5.0 stock.. But I was having traction issues.. Had about 9 or 10k on my stock pzeros..

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Thats not correcting anything.. Just what I ran
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