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Old 06-08-2012, 08:18 PM   #141
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No, I don't. Seems to me it was pretty close to stock motor though. My numbers seem pretty spot on with most others with same mods(full exhaust and 10psi on a centri)
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No, I don't. Seems to me it was pretty close to stock motor though. My numbers seem pretty spot on with most others with same mods(full exhaust and 10psi on a centri)
Since I'm unfamiliar with this crate, what opted you to get it over keeping the stock engine?
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The engine is just a 5.0 engine with built internals. Supposed to be good for 1000 whp. The valve springs are upgraded to boss springs as well. They offer it in an 11:1 n/a version and a 9.5:1 version for fi. Got it cuz I had to though. My block went boom on the dyno, threw 3 rods and passenger head was toast.
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The engine is just a 5.0 engine with built internals. Supposed to be good for 1000 whp. The valve springs are upgraded to boss springs as well. They offer it in an 11:1 n/a version and a 9.5:1 version for fi. Got it cuz I had to though. My block went boom on the dyno, threw 3 rods and passenger head was toast.
I'm going to.do internals but keep the 11:1 compression. Run e85 with it.
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I'm interested in the e85 idea but I just dont see many places to get it. Only have one station within 3 miles of me. How involved is it to covert?
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I'm interested in the e85 idea but I just dont see many places to get it. Only have one station within 3 miles of me. How involved is it to covert?
With 9.5:1 compression wouldn't be good for e85.

Convert is just a tune and making sure have enough injector and fuel system.

E85 needs 40% more fuel at WOT. That is n/a cars and fi cars
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Gotcha. You know anybody that runs meth? How it's worked out for em?
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Gotcha. You know anybody that runs meth? How it's worked out for em?
Few..Meth is great for cooling and adding power.
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Would recommend CAI by Steeda..High quality and very efficient.
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Few..Meth is great for cooling and adding power.
I've been keeping an eye out for some people to do this. Seems like it might be a good road course adder since a lot of cars are getting real hot out there.
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That's a nice line. HP all the way through to 620. I hope to put that much down. Guess if Ford isn't going to cover a warrantee with a dealer installed SC I just might go with the smaller pulley off the bat. Unless Roush still covers any related engine issues after installation of their 575 HP kit. Anyone know?
Yes there 575 hp kit has a warrenty available that will continue the 3/36 warrenty on powertrain

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The engine is just a 5.0 engine with built internals. Supposed to be good for 1000 whp. The valve springs are upgraded to boss springs as well. They offer it in an 11:1 n/a version and a 9.5:1 version for fi. Got it cuz I had to though. My block went boom on the dyno, threw 3 rods and passenger head was toast.
What state of mods did you have when the stock block blew on the dyno? What was the cause of the failure?
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+1 I'll sell you one for a great price!!
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:17 PM   #155
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What state of mods did you have when the stock block blew on the dyno? What was the cause of the failure?
He has a supercharger. It was being tuned.
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He has a supercharger. It was being tuned.
I too am curious about the setup w/SC during tune. Like was it purely the stock engine+SC or did you have other mods as well? An what boost were you tuning for? I'd hate to blow an engine during my tune. Did the shop cover it or was it out of your pocket? I figure the day my engine goes I'll replace with a setup ready for SC but don't want to push my wallet too much first time around. $7k for SC and install plus $7k for engine is a hefty hit.
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I too am curious about the setup w/SC during tune. Like was it purely the stock engine+SC or did you have other mods as well? An what boost were you tuning for? I'd hate to blow an engine during my tune. Did the shop cover it or was it out of your pocket? I figure the day my engine goes I'll replace with a setup ready for SC but don't want to push my wallet too much first time around. $7k for SC and install plus $7k for engine is a hefty hit.
from what I remember he had the stock SC kit with full exhaust. Was just dialing it in. Running about 8-10lbs boost but there was a spike in boost. And the car seen like 15lbs. And he paid for it out of pocket. Tuner was able to help him get a discount on his engine though. No shop is going to cover your engine blowing up, They will never admit to it being their fault if it was.

Any time you mod its chance you take. a spike in boost and boom there goes the engine. Just like ordering a emial tune. Wrong little thing set some where and bad A/F of to lean and boom goes engine.
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Yeah the engine is literally a ticking time bomb when it comes to heavy mods. The tune is absolutely crucial when it comes to an sc set up. That's why when it came to the base tune I got for my set up I drove lightly on it. After verifying the a/f ratio on the dyno I started to have a little more fun with it. If an a/f ratio gets jacked up on any set up though u r going to blow it. It's the chance we take.
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from what I remember he had the stock SC kit with full exhaust. Was just dialing it in. Running about 8-10lbs boost but there was a spike in boost. And the car seen like 15lbs. And he paid for it out of pocket. Tuner was able to help him get a discount on his engine though. No shop is going to cover your engine blowing up, They will never admit to it being their fault if it was.

Any time you mod its chance you take. a spike in boost and boom there goes the engine. Just like ordering a emial tune. Wrong little thing set some where and bad A/F of to lean and boom goes engine.
Yep, that's pretty much how it happened. Made a pull to 7k at about 10psi and for some "unknown" reason #7 went too lean and threw rod. Two more went after that( kind of a chain reaction). Reason I say "unknown" is because although someone might know I never will. I know as well as anyone else that everybody's gonna cover their butt at that point. My tuner did get me long block at $1500 off retail and he did front the cash though. Gave me a few months to pay him off. So that being said he's either a very nice guy or although he said his tune was dead on he knew maybe it wasn't. Water under the bridge at this point. Way I look at it now that it's behind me is that now I got the engine I dreamed for that my wife would've never let me buy
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Yep, that's pretty much how it happened. Made a pull to 7k at about 10psi and for some "unknown" reason #7 went too lean and threw rod. Two more went after that( kind of a chain reaction). Reason I say "unknown" is because although someone might know I never will. I know as well as anyone else that everybody's gonna cover their butt at that point. My tuner did get me long block at $1500 off retail and he did front the cash though. Gave me a few months to pay him off. So that being said he's either a very nice guy or although he said his tune was dead on he knew maybe it wasn't. Water under the bridge at this point. Way I look at it now that it's behind me is that now I got the engine I dreamed for that my wife would've never let me buy
It sucks but its a risk we all take when Modding. I suspect I will be driving down the road when mine lets go. Hopefully not far from home.
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Agree about the risk, just didn't think it should've of happened so soon under 10psi
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Yep, that's pretty much how it happened. Made a pull to 7k at about 10psi and for some "unknown" reason #7 went too lean and threw rod. Two more went after that( kind of a chain reaction). Reason I say "unknown" is because although someone might know I never will. I know as well as anyone else that everybody's gonna cover their butt at that point. My tuner did get me long block at $1500 off retail and he did front the cash though. Gave me a few months to pay him off. So that being said he's either a very nice guy or although he said his tune was dead on he knew maybe it wasn't. Water under the bridge at this point. Way I look at it now that it's behind me is that now I got the engine I dreamed for that my wife would've never let me buy
Good to hear. Yeah, wasn't sure how much a tuner shop could point to the actual failure point to say a 'Ford' malfunction occurred. But yeah, the end result is expensive but you got a solid engine. I'm hoping mine doesn't go but hey, gotta take the risk to get the thrill. That's why we roll in Mustangs.
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Very true, we all know you never have enough hp
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