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Old 06-12-2012, 06:53 PM   #1
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Traction issues launch help

I'm trying to practice launching, I'm using the dynolicious iPhone app to track my 60' time and 0-60

I can't seem to get under a 2.6 60' no matter how I launch... Best 0-60 time was 5.2 with the 2.6

I have sumi HTR Z 3s on the rear and to be honest they felt stickier when new and now they spin a little too much off the line, is it easier to launch hard with an actual radial or is it just as hard? I tried a few various rpms with some clutch slip and the road seemed pretty clean, not sure what to make of this
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I'm trying to practice launching, I'm using the dynolicious iPhone app to track my 60' time and 0-60

I can't seem to get under a 2.6 60' no matter how I launch... Best 0-60 time was 5.2 with the 2.6

I have sumi HTR Z 3s on the rear and to be honest they felt stickier when new and now they spin a little too much off the line, is it easier to launch hard with an actual radial or is it just as hard? I tried a few various rpms with some clutch slip and the road seemed pretty clean, not sure what to make of this
Well ... those are street tires, not drag radials. They aren't going to "hook" from a launch or provide stellar 60' times no matter what you do. Also, you're on a street or parking lot I presume, not a purpose-built, prepped drag strip.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 PM ----------

Also, not sure how accurate an iPhone app is at measuring that kind of stuff. How do you have it mounted?
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Order a bama tuner and get a tune with their launch control feature. Just got mine and went from a 2.50 60' to an easy 2.00. I've been able to hit the 2 flat myself but the consistency of the tune is nice
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Order a bama tuner and get a tune with their launch control feature. Just got mine and went from a 2.50 60' to an easy 2.00. I've been able to hit the 2 flat myself but the consistency of the tune is nice
Since when does BAMA do launch control on their tunes? I've never seen this as an option when updating mine and just put in for a revision on Friday...
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Since when does BAMA do launch control on their tunes? I've never seen this as an option when updating mine and just put in for a revision on Friday...
+1, I know MSD boxes have rev limiters for launching but this is the first I've heard of a tune being able to control that
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American Muscle, can you answer this question?
I haven't seen them post anything here in a long time ... not sure where they have been but I suspect it has something to do with Chris Young not being there anymore.
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I haven't seen them post anything here in a long time ... not sure where they have been but I suspect it has something to do with Chris Young not being there anymore.
Short time googling and I got nothin.
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From this forum... http://mustangforums.com/forum/2005-...h-control.html
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From this forum... how use sct launch control - MustangForums.com
Interesting ... I think you can set this in the SCT but it cuts power in a relatively unsafe way IIRC (don't remember whether cutting fuel or spark was good/bad but it does whichever one was worse). I'm sure someone will chime in...
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Well ... those are street tires, not drag radials. They aren't going to "hook" from a launch or provide stellar 60' times no matter what you do. Also, you're on a street or parking lot I presume, not a purpose-built, prepped drag strip.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 PM ----------

Also, not sure how accurate an iPhone app is at measuring that kind of stuff. How do you have it mounted?
I have it mounted as per the instructions but I was wondering about the accuracy... I thought those HTR z 3s were radials... Damnit lol

---------- Post added at 10:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 PM ----------

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Order a bama tuner and get a tune with their launch control feature. Just got mine and went from a 2.50 60' to an easy 2.00. I've been able to hit the 2 flat myself but the consistency of the tune is nice
Never hear of their launch control... I'll look it up, definitely intrigued
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I would question the accuracy of your device. I just bought my 2013 GT auto last week. Took it to Z Max Dragway for a TNT on Friday night. Only 280 miles on it. Bone stock on the 3 passes I made ran 2.1 60FT. Goodyear Eagle F1 tires and 3:15 gear. Was launching at 1,000 rpm in sport mode. I traded a 2006 GT auto with cold air, tune, exhaust, 4:10, 3000 rpm converter and 555Rs and could only get 1.8 60ft launching at 2500. I have no doubt that with my drag radials and a more aggressive launch I could get below 2.0 60ft.
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I would question the accuracy of your device. I just bought my 2013 GT auto last week. Took it to Z Max Dragway for a TNT on Friday night. Only 280 miles on it. Bone stock on the 3 passes I made ran 2.1 60FT. Goodyear Eagle F1 tires and 3:15 gear. Was launching at 1,000 rpm in sport mode. I traded a 2006 GT auto with cold air, tune, exhaust, 4:10, 3000 rpm converter and 555Rs and could only get 1.8 60ft launching at 2500. I have no doubt that with my drag radials and a more aggressive launch I could get below 2.0 60ft.
What was your time? Just curious
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On the new car my best was a 13.2 at 109. I wasn't getting on it either. This was on a prepped track. For comparison my 06 GT with 298 RWHP would run a 1.8 60ft and 12.9 ET at 105. It would completely run out of power after he 1/8. The new car is just waking up at the 1/8. A friend has a 2011 5.0 with nothing but CAI, custom tune and MT ET streets and in March (cool air) ran a 12.1 at 117!
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I would question the accuracy of your device. I just bought my 2013 GT auto last week. Took it to Z Max Dragway for a TNT on Friday night. Only 280 miles on it. Bone stock on the 3 passes I made ran 2.1 60FT. Goodyear Eagle F1 tires and 3:15 gear. Was launching at 1,000 rpm in sport mode. I traded a 2006 GT auto with cold air, tune, exhaust, 4:10, 3000 rpm converter and 555Rs and could only get 1.8 60ft launching at 2500. I have no doubt that with my drag radials and a more aggressive launch I could get below 2.0 60ft.
Your bone stock 13 gt came with eagle f1 tires?
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Yes, got the brembo pkg. which had the 19's and F1s.
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On the new car my best was a 13.2 at 109. I wasn't getting on it either. This was on a prepped track. For comparison my 06 GT with 298 RWHP would run a 1.8 60ft and 12.9 ET at 105. It would completely run out of power after he 1/8. The new car is just waking up at the 1/8. A friend has a 2011 5.0 with nothing but CAI, custom tune and MT ET streets and in March (cool air) ran a 12.1 at 117!
I ran a 13.02 stock in my '11 5.0 6MT.. So mad I didnt hit twelves.. Since I've added frpp k springs, lcas, steeda CAI, bama 93 race tune, o/r x... Still haven't made it back though.. Soon hopefully..
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The guys at bama told me the launch control was 100% safe and would not hurt the car in any way. It launches hard. It may be a year specific thing I suppose. I've got an 03 mach 1 for reference. Its set at 3000rpm. Rev it up. Pop the clutch and ride it out. It limits wheelspin and really gets u goin.
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@11STANG GT, if your not moving into the 12s with those mods something must not be right. I have never had a mail order tune, but I have heard they can be wrong sometimes. My 06 went from a 13.6 to a 13.1 with tune and cold air. Almost all the 5.0s I have seen with tunes and CAI even on street ores are running in the 12s.
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@11STANG GT, if your not moving into the 12s with those mods something must not be right. I have never had a mail order tune, but I have heard they can be wrong sometimes. My 06 went from a 13.6 to a 13.1 with tune and cold air. Almost all the 5.0s I have seen with tunes and CAI even on street ores are running in the 12s.
Reread... I said stock.. I have since added those things and not been back as I said..
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My bad, took at as you meant you had not been back down to 13.0s, not back to the strip!
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The guys at bama told me the launch control was 100% safe and would not hurt the car in any way. It launches hard. It may be a year specific thing I suppose. I've got an 03 mach 1 for reference. Its set at 3000rpm. Rev it up. Pop the clutch and ride it out. It limits wheelspin and really gets u goin.
I've since found some vids on YouTube. Doesn't look like/sound like its hurting anything. None that I saw launched. They were just recording the rev limit at idle. So as soon as you dump it, the rev limit goes away?
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I'm trying to practice launching, I'm using the dynolicious iPhone app to track my 60' time and 0-60

I can't seem to get under a 2.6 60' no matter how I launch... Best 0-60 time was 5.2 with the 2.6

I have sumi HTR Z 3s on the rear and to be honest they felt stickier when new and now they spin a little too much off the line, is it easier to launch hard with an actual radial or is it just as hard? I tried a few various rpms with some clutch slip and the road seemed pretty clean, not sure what to make of this
What's the app called?
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I've since found some vids on YouTube. Doesn't look like/sound like its hurting anything. None that I saw launched. They were just recording the rev limit at idle. So as soon as you dump it, the rev limit goes away?
Yeah. It must only be activated if speed is zero. I push the gas in to 70-80%. Quickly let off the clutch and then floor It as soon as the car starts moving. Talk to AM. Mine is set at 3k rpm because I'm on street rubber. Its the lowest setting.
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Yeah. It must only be activated if speed is zero. I push the gas in to 70-80%. Quickly let off the clutch and then floor It as soon as the car starts moving. Talk to AM. Mine is set at 3k rpm because I'm on street rubber. Its the lowest setting.
I actually remember doing this with my 08... Didn't realize it was called munch control lol, it's not part of the tune but in the custom options if I remember correctly

Sounds like that with some ET streets will do the trick
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Re: Traction issues launch help

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Well ... those are street tires, not drag radials. They aren't going to "hook" from a launch or provide stellar 60' times no matter what you do. Also, you're on a street or parking lot I presume, not a purpose-built, prepped drag strip.

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Also, not sure how accurate an iPhone app is at measuring that kind of stuff. How do you have it mounted?
I think a 1.8 60' on a street tire is more than stellar. lol. Bias, I know.

That being said, Nepoleon is right when stating that if you're practicing in the street, the times will always suck. The track is designed to get you to 'hook' better.
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