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Old 06-30-2012, 01:45 PM   #1
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Dyno results!!!

What u guys think? Wms intake with flow master hush power cat back, 4.10 gear and stock tune. Also it's a 95 degree day.

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Untill I get sct to resolve my tuner issues, the next runs will hopefully be with the bama tunes.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:55 PM   #2
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You have a 5.0 correct? They look like stock numbers. The 4.10's are eating a few ponies on the dyno..

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And I don't think the intake is doing anything for you.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:26 PM   #3
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You have a 5.0 correct? They look like stock numbers. The 4.10's are eating a few ponies on the dyno..

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And I don't think the intake is doing anything for you.
Yes, it's a 5.0 with 33k miles

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I'm a bit skeptical on my intake, but untill I get my tuner fixed and load the bama tune, I'm not condemning it yet.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:18 PM   #4
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Yes, it's a 5.0 with 33k miles

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I'm a bit skeptical on my intake, but untill I get my tuner fixed and load the bama tune, I'm not condemning it yet.
So its a no tune intake?
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Not sure what your asking, but the intake I have has a 100 mm maf tube and requires a tune. I ran the car on the dyno with the intake and cat back on a stock tune. Untill I get the sct tuner up and working again, I won't know if I gain any power on the dyno. I know the 4.10 drops the results by about 20 hp, and the 95 degree day was no help. This will be a good way to test how the car does with bolts vs bolt ons and with a tune.
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Not sure what your asking, but the intake I have has a 100 mm maf tube and requires a tune. I ran the car on the dyno with the intake and cat back on a stock tune. Untill I get the sct tuner up and working again, I won't know if I gain any power on the dyno. I know the 4.10 drops the results by about 20 hp, and the 95 degree day was no help. This will be a good way to test how the car does with bolts vs bolt ons and with a tune.
Correct me if im wrong.. Ur driving with a tune required cai without a tune for the cai?
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It actually shows the cold air did nothing for you. The gears will not eat 20hp. Maybe 5-7. And heat isn't a factor with sea numbers as they correct for the heat.

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Correct me if im wrong.. Ur driving with a tune required cai without a tune for the cai?
Ya wondering how that is working. Just shows the cai don't need a tune and as many others it was a waste of money. Showed no gains.
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20 hp difference between a 4.10 and 3.55 is about right. Heat plays a big factor and especially when it's almost a 100 degrees.
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20 hp difference between a 4.10 and 3.55 is about right. Heat plays a big factor and especially when it's almost a 100 degrees.
Not much diff between 50 and 100 degree weather though. The only thing tht helps is wen its cold out.. N tht is very minor.
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Correct me if im wrong.. Ur driving with a tune required cai without a tune for the cai?
Well not really driving the car, I just ran 4 passes on the dyno to get a baseline. Hoping by next week I'll get a tune loaded into the car and we will see if a tune helps. IMO I won't see much difference. The a/f's were around 13.0-1. Seems to me like the factory copperhead ecu is doing its own tuning and correcting regardless. That would be disappointing if the tunes for bolt ons showed no gains.
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Well not really driving the car, I just ran 4 passes on the dyno to get a baseline. Hoping by next week I'll get a tune loaded into the car and we will see if a tune helps. IMO I won't see much difference. The a/f's were around 13.0-1. Seems to me like the factory copperhead ecu is doing its own tuning and correcting regardless. That would be disappointing if the tunes for bolt ons showed no gains.
Ull see gains with a tune. If u only have a cai n axlebacks dont expect to be blown away.
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Well not really driving the car, I just ran 4 passes on the dyno to get a baseline. Hoping by next week I'll get a tune loaded into the car and we will see if a tune helps. IMO I won't see much difference. The a/f's were around 13.0-1. Seems to me like the factory copperhead ecu is doing its own tuning and correcting regardless. That would be disappointing if the tunes for bolt ons showed no gains.
Of course a tune is going to give you more power and torque. Why do you think a tune won't show gains? And if your looking for a comparison for the intake then you need to run on the dyno with a tune and then on the same dyno same day run with the intake and tune. Comparing a tune required cai with the stock tune and then to a tune is pointless.
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Of course a tune is going to give you more power and torque. Why do you think a tune won't show gains? And if your looking for a comparison for the intake then you need to run on the dyno with a tune and then on the same dyno same day run with the intake and tune. Comparing a tune required cai with the stock tune and then to a tune is pointless.
Looking for gains with a new cai is pointless in general.
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That is a very lean a/f ratio. Not good really. And there power to.be gained with adding timing.

And as said the heat don't really do much since the dyno corrects for it.

Why trying to compare the 4.10's to 3.55's. 3.73 stock.cars have made 370-385 bone stock.
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Ull see gains with a tune. If u only have a cai n axlebacks dont expect to be blown away.
Cai and cat back. I'm not expecting any gains at all actually. Unless bama changes the target air fuel ratios, and even with that, i can't see more then 5-10 horse power gains. The dyno will tell us hopefully next weekend.
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Cai and cat back. I'm not expecting any gains at all actually. Unless bama changes the target air fuel ratios, and even with that, i can't see more then 5-10 horse power gains. The dyno will tell us hopefully next weekend.
The gains are not going to.come from a/f. They are going to.come from adding timing in the tune. Your car is not at Max timing.

When do dyno do a new before tune and after tune install.

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Also where you have it dyno at?
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Looking for gains with a new cai is pointless in general.
Oh really? I gained 8rwhp with my airaid cai and steeda tune over just steeda tune. Same dyno same day. So the 8rwhp(13+hp) awesome sound and awesome looks it was a awesome $300 spent!

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Cai and cat back. I'm not expecting any gains at all actually. Unless bama changes the target air fuel ratios, and even with that, i can't see more then 5-10 horse power gains. The dyno will tell us hopefully next weekend.
Don't bother with another dyno. Unless you do it with just tune and then just tune and cai on the same day same dyno the test is pointless. I don't understand why people don't get that?
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8 hp off a cai? Id call airaid and send it back for them to do research on y yours shows 4 more hp than everyone elses haha
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8hp is doing nothing on a car. You don't even notice it at all. On the street or track. But hey the sound is cool I guess. Useless sound.
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8hp is doing nothing on a car. You don't even notice it at all. On the street or track. But hey the sound is cool I guess. Useless sound.
8rwhp is actually like 13+hp
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Re: Dyno results!!!

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What u guys think? Wms intake with flow master hush power cat back, 4.10 gear and stock tune. Also it's a 95 degree day.

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Untill I get sct to resolve my tuner issues, the next runs will hopefully be with the bama tunes.

Struego,

377 RWHP is very impressive for a basically stock 5.0, especially when it's damn near 100* outside. An intake with no tune does very little regardless if its tune required or not (8-10hp).

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